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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 15, 2017 19:01:00 GMT -5
You can hear the Beatles version of I've Got A Woman on the Live At The BBC CD. They also do a cover of his Hallelujah I Just Love Her So on their Anthology CD Vol 1 Ray Charles did an EP, Ray Charles Sings The Beatles and covers the songs Eleanor Rigby, Yesterday, The Long And Winding Road, Something, Imagine and Let It Be. Paul McCartney particularly praised his Eleanor Rigby
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 16, 2017 7:37:35 GMT -5
Close Encounters Of A Musical Kind-Part 3My next few musical encounters were during a 7 year span at a dream job for a young guy. Between late 1975 and mid 1982 I worked at a Manhattan after-hours club. The place was already in operation when I started. Basically it would open at 11 PM and close 8 AM. It had a bar and gambling tables. Poker,craps,roulette and blackjack where the main fare. It was a members only club as well as their guests. Very upscale and lots of big money was spent. Very pretty hostesses, bartenders and card dealers helped to draw the crowds in. Of course, this was all a bit illegal but this was the decadent anything goes 1970's and as long as we didn't attract attention we were left alone. I started as one of the managers. I knew the owner and he needed trusted people. By the end of the gig I was general manager. Lots of high rollers came through the door and celebrities as well. Most would keep a low profile and didn't want to announce themselves. But when they hand you a credit card and the face is familiar it can be figured out. The first musician I met was completely stoned to the point of being a bit of a nuisance and mostly incoherent. However he was a regular for about 2 weeks and spent good money so we let him stay inside up to a point, then convinced him it was time to go back to his hotel and got a cab for him I'm talking about John Phillips. John Phillips was a mid 60's superstar in the world of rock. Leader, chief songwriter and arranger for The Mamas And The Papas. Wrote the songs California Dreamin', Monday Monday, Creeque Alley and more for the group. Wrote the huge hit for Scott McKenzie San Francisco (Wear Flowers In Your Hair). He and fellow band member Michelle Phillips' home in the Hollywood Hills was a gathering place for fellow musicians as well as Hollywood celebrities such as Jack Nicholson, Warren Beatty and Roman Polanski. John Phillips was the chief organizer for the iconic 1967 Monterrey Pop Festival Then things began to go downhill for him. The Mamas And Papas broke up due to Mama Cass Elliot deciding to start a solo career and John's wife began to cheat on her husband with fellow member Denny Doherty. John released a 1970 solo album that disappointed saleswise though it had a minor hit single (one that I'll embed and that I enjoyed back then). Phillips boozing and drug usage finally had him leave the limelight and eventually move to Europe Mick Jagger tried to get him to record again for The Rolling Stones record label. Alas John Phillips was now, in the mid 70's shooting both cocaine and heroin. This was when I met him, on one of his trips back to NY. He was a mess. And even though I knew what he accomplished in his life, you couldn't have a rational conversation with him by the time he rolled into the club. He did not want to talk about the 1960's at all. In 1981 he was convicted of drug trafficking.He got a very short sentence under an agreement to go to rehab and work constantly in PSA anti-drug ads. He did have one more hit song in him. He wrote the big Beach Boys come-back song Kokomo He needed a liver transplant in the 1990's and spent the decade on-and-off drugs and booze. He died in 2001 In 2009 his daughter MacKenzie Phillips revealed on the Oprah Winfey Show that she had an incestuous relationship with her father for many years. Some in the family supported her claim. Some called her a liar. True or false it made the national news My meeting with John Phillips was a sad affair. During those two weeks he came by every other day or so and was more or less an annoyance. Very sad indeed
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Post by Confessor on Mar 16, 2017 8:00:15 GMT -5
Great story about John Phillips, although very sad. I think Phillips is one of the great underrated songwriters of the '60s. The stuff he wrote for the Mamas & the Papas was mostly excellent and included a high number of all-time classics. ...and John's wife began to cheat on her husband with fellow member Denny Doherty. ...and Gene Clark from The Byrds. And half of the male musicians in L.A. It was the era of free love, but it seems that John and Michelle's relationship couldn't take the strain of the jealousy that such infidelity often breeds. Shame...for a while they really were the golden couple of Laurel canyon. He did have one more hit song in him. He wrote the big Beach Boys come-back song Kokomo But that's nothing to be proud of. At all. [/snark]
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 16, 2017 8:09:48 GMT -5
You forced my hand (snicker snicker) Put it this way, it was competing on the charts with Phil Collin's Groovy Kind Of Love and Kylie Minogue's The Loco-Motion. Which of the 3 would you listen to?
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Post by Confessor on Mar 16, 2017 8:27:35 GMT -5
Put it this way, it was competing on the charts with Phil Collin's Groovy Kind Of Love and Kylie Minogue's The Loco-Motion. Which of the 3 would you listen to? Ummmm...none of the above? Being 1988, the pop singles I'd have been listening to and loving would've been the likes of "Alphabet Street" by Prince, "Don't Go" by the Hothouse Flowers or "Handle with Care" by the Travelling Wilburys.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 16, 2017 8:39:15 GMT -5
Here is the top 20 American Billboard chart the one week Kokomo was at the top. I remember at that time I was working at an office and the radio was controlled by a certain lady that tuned it to a pop station that followed this list. I couldn't summon up the bile against the Beach Boys as much as some of the other songs on the list. In fact, I got a warm spot in my heart hearing the Beach Boys having a hit single again after so many years.
Week ending Nov 5, 1988
TW- LW- Title- Artist -Weeks On Chart (Peak Position) 1 2 KOKOMO –•– The Beach Boys – 10 (1)
2 3 WILD, WILD WEST –•– The Escape Club – 12 (2)
3 1 GROOVY KIND OF LOVE –•– Phil Collins – 10 (1)
4 7 THE LOCO-MOTION –•– Kylie Minoque – 11 (4)
5 10 BAD MEDICINE –•– Bon Jovi – 7 (5)
6 9 ONE MOMENT IN TIME –•– Whitney Houston – 9 (6)
7 8 NEVER TEAR US APART –•– INXS – 13 (7)
8 14 DESIRE –•– U2 – 6 (8)
9 4 RED RED WINE –•– UB40 – 28 (1)
10 5 WHAT’S ON YOUR MIND (PURE ENERGY) –•– Information Society – 17 (3)
11 6 DON’T YOU KNOW WHAT THE NIGHT CAN DO? –•– Steve Winwood – 12 (6)
12 17 HOW CAN I FALL? –•– Breathe – 9 (12)
13 21 BABY, I LOVE YOUR WAY/FREEBIRD –•– Will To Power – 9 (13)
14 12 CHAINS OF LOVE –•– Erasure – 15 (12)
15 22 KISSING A FOOL –•– George Michael – 5 (15)
16 16 ANOTHER LOVER –•– Giant Steps – 12 (16)
17 23 LOOK AWAY –•– Chicago – 7 (17)
18 20 DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU GOT (TILL IT’S GONE) –•– Cinderella – 10 (18)
19 11 DON’T BE CRUEL –•– Bobby Brown – 16 (8)
20 27 I DON’T WANT YOUR LOVE –•– Duran Duran – 4 (20)
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Post by Confessor on Mar 16, 2017 9:17:49 GMT -5
^^ Man, it's easy to see why some music critics were predicting the end of pop music itself in the late '80s, based on that chart run down. With the possible exception of U2's "Desire", that's like a tsunami of s**t music.
Thank God that the four-pronged attack of rave culture, grunge, hip hop and indie rock arrived to save the day as the '80s turned into the '90s. Despite there being some really interesting stuff in the early '80s, the years 1984 to 1989 really were pretty barren musically.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 16, 2017 10:37:55 GMT -5
^^ Man, it's easy to see why some music critics were predicting the end of pop music itself in the late '80s, based on that chart run down. With the possible exception of U2's "Desire", that's like a tsunami of s**t music. Thank God that the four-pronged attack of rave culture, grunge, hip hop and indie rock arrived to save the day as the '80s turned into the '90s. Despite there being some really interesting stuff in the early '80s, the years 1984 to 1989 really were pretty barren musically. It was also a horrible time in Country Music. It was before Uncle Tupelo kick-started the Alt-Country movement. Proto-alt acts like Guy Clark, Townes Van Zandt, Joe Ely, et. al. were struggling or not putting out much music (Ely did tour with The Clash early in the 80s and did a couple of decent albums.) Outlaw country had been replaced by Urban Cowboy and older acts were largely stuck in shitty contracts and putting out mediocre work. Willie Nelson put out a handful of very good singles, but couldn't put together a decent album. Waylon put out a couple of mediocre albums. Merle Haggard put out a handful of good cuts and one album, Kern River, that was decent. The only real bright spot was Steve Earle who put out two classic albums in Guitar Town and Copperhead Road. It was, however, an incredible time for The Blues. Stevie Ray Vaughan, Joe Louis Walker and Robert Cray kick-started a new blues movement that was insanely good. Tons of older acts put out solid to great albums including Albert Collins, Albert King, Gatemouth Brown, John Lee Hooker, Luther Allison, Magic Slim, Pinetop Perkins, Professor Longhair. And you can call it Folk or you can call it Country Blues, but whatever you call it Doc & Merle Watson put out three absolutely classic albums in the 80s.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 16, 2017 11:21:45 GMT -5
^^ Man, it's easy to see why some music critics were predicting the end of pop music itself in the late '80s, based on that chart run down. With the possible exception of U2's "Desire", that's like a tsunami of s**t music. Thank God that the four-pronged attack of rave culture, grunge, hip hop and indie rock arrived to save the day as the '80s turned into the '90s. Despite there being some really interesting stuff in the early '80s, the years 1984 to 1989 really were pretty barren musically. It was also a horrible time in Country Music. It was before Uncle Tupelo kick-started the Alt-Country movement. Proto-alt acts like Guy Clark, Townes Van Zandt, Joe Ely, et. al. were struggling or not putting out much music (Ely did tour with The Clash early in the 80s and did a couple of decent albums.) Outlaw country had been replaced by Urban Cowboy and older acts were largely stuck in shitty contracts and putting out mediocre work. Willie Nelson put out a handful of very good singles, but couldn't put together a decent album. Waylon put out a couple of mediocre albums. Merle Haggard put out a handful of good cuts and one album, Kern River, that was decent. The only real bright spot was Steve Earle who put out two classic albums in Guitar Town and Copperhead Road. That's interesting -- I hadn't realised that things were equally as bad in country music at the same time. I picked up Steve Earl's Guitar Town and Copperhead Road in 1989, after being introduced to them by a school friend (and they're still the only two Earl albums I own). Both records are real corkers though! It's worth noting that there had been a few proto-alt. country (I hate the term "alt. country" BTW) or Cowpunk acts associated with L.A.'s Paisley Undeground scene doing some fairly interesting country-flavoured stuff in the early-to-mid-80s. I'm talking about bands like The Long Ryders, Green on Red and The Beat Farmers, but I wouldn't really count those as country music acts, per se. A lot of the country-flavoured stuff put out by those bands was sort of closer to roots rock acts like John Cougar Mellencamp, Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, and Missouri's finest and my personal favourites, The Rainmakers. It was, however, an incredible time for The Blues. Stevie Ray Vaughan, Joe Louis Walker and Robert Cray kick-started a new blues movement that was insanely good. Tons of older acts put out solid to great albums including Albert Collins, Albert King, Gatemouth Brown, John Lee Hooker, Luther Allison, Magic Slim, Pinetop Perkins, Professor Longhair. And you can call it Folk or you can call it Country Blues, but whatever you call it Doc & Merle Watson put out three absolutely classic albums in the 80s. It was during the '80s that I first discovered blues music, via BBC Radio 2's weekly "Blues on 2" show. However, I was not at all interested in then-contemporary blues music -- I was fascinated by the dark, weird and scratchy pre-World War II recordings of the likes of Mississippi John Hurt, Robert Johnson, and Charlie Patton, along with the later, electrified blues of Muddy Waters and Lightnin' Hopkins. I also dug old Chicago blues of the '40s and '50s a lot too, especially the music of Elmore James, John Lee Hooker and Sonny Boy Williamson II. I heard a fair bit of the likes of Stevie Ray Vaughan and Robert Cray in the late '80s from my guitarist friends, but their music never really interested me that much. There was something much more primal and earthy about that older blues music that I liked, which seemed to be lacking from the blues music of the '80s and '90s. The exceptions to that would be Terry Garland and Keb' Mo', who both released excellent albums in the early '90s.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 16, 2017 11:32:58 GMT -5
Just thinking about how I first discovered the blues while writing the above reply to slam, and, actually, one of the musicians who really turned me on to blues generally was an English guitarist named Dave Kelly. He was a member of the ever popular Blues Band, but he would often stop in to do special solo sessions for the "Blues on 2" radio program. His authentic-sounding covers of the likes of Robert Johnson or Muddy Waters were a really big influence on me at such a tender age (I would've been 13 or 14, I guess). Here's Mr. Kelly doing Johnson's "Crossroads Blues" from that same mid-80s time period as I used to listen to him on the radio...not bad for a white guy from Streatham, London!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 16, 2017 11:43:31 GMT -5
It was also a horrible time in Country Music. It was before Uncle Tupelo kick-started the Alt-Country movement. Proto-alt acts like Guy Clark, Townes Van Zandt, Joe Ely, et. al. were struggling or not putting out much music (Ely did tour with The Clash early in the 80s and did a couple of decent albums.) Outlaw country had been replaced by Urban Cowboy and older acts were largely stuck in shitty contracts and putting out mediocre work. Willie Nelson put out a handful of very good singles, but couldn't put together a decent album. Waylon put out a couple of mediocre albums. Merle Haggard put out a handful of good cuts and one album, Kern River, that was decent. The only real bright spot was Steve Earle who put out two classic albums in Guitar Town and Copperhead Road. That's interesting -- I hadn't realised that things were equally as bad in country music at the same time. I picked up Steve Earl's Guitar Town and Copperhead Road in 1989, after being introduced to them by a school friend (and they're still the only two Earl albums I own). Both records are real corkers though! It's worth noting that there had been a few proto-alt. country (I hate the term "alt. country" BTW) or Cowpunk acts associated with L.A.'s Paisley Undeground scene doing some fairly interesting country-flavoured stuff in the early-to-mid-80s. I'm talking about bands like The Long Ryders, Green on Red and The Beat Farmers, but I wouldn't really count those as country music acts, per se. A lot of the country-flavoured stuff put out by those bands was sort of closer to roots rock acts like John Cougar Mellencamp, Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, and Missouri's finest and my personal favourites, The Rainmakers. It was, however, an incredible time for The Blues. Stevie Ray Vaughan, Joe Louis Walker and Robert Cray kick-started a new blues movement that was insanely good. Tons of older acts put out solid to great albums including Albert Collins, Albert King, Gatemouth Brown, John Lee Hooker, Luther Allison, Magic Slim, Pinetop Perkins, Professor Longhair. And you can call it Folk or you can call it Country Blues, but whatever you call it Doc & Merle Watson put out three absolutely classic albums in the 80s. It was during the '80s that I first discovered blues music, via BBC Radio 2's weekly "Blues on 2" show. However, I was not at all interested in then-contemporary blues music -- I was fascinated by the dark, weird and scratchy pre-World War II recordings of the likes of Mississippi John Hurt, Robert Johnson, and Charlie Patton, along with the later, electrified blues of Muddy Waters and Lightnin' Hopkins. I also dug old Chicago blues of the '40s and '50s a lot too, especially the music of Elmore James, John Lee Hooker and Sonny Boy Williamson II. I heard a fair bit of the likes of Stevie Ray Vaughan and Robert Cray in the late '80s from my guitarist friends, but their music never really interested me that much. There was something much more primal and earthy about that older blues music that I liked, which seemed to be lacking from the blues music of the '80s and '90s. The exceptions to that would be Terry Garland and Keb' Mo', who both released excellent albums in the early '90s. If you look at was was popular in Country at the time it was pretty dire. Alabama, Barbara Mandrell, Kenny Rogers, Eddie Rabbit, Ronny Milsap. A lot of soft country-pop crap. There were a few bright spots with Randy Travis and George Strait, but overall the Nashville charts were horrible. I'm a HUGE Steve Earle fan. And those two early albums are excellent. They were number one and three in his discography. His second album, Exit 0 is actually pretty good. Just not up to those two. He then got deep into heroin and cocaine and didn't get clean until the mid 90s. But since then I don't think he's made a single bad album. Some weaker, some really good. I saw him in a pretty tiny venue near Sun Valley Idaho a couple years ago and it was a hell of a show. I love blues of all stripes. I do find that I tend to burn out on any given sub-genre after a bit, so I'll rotate through Delta Blues to Chicago Blues to Electric/Blues-Rock. Jump Blues may be the sole exception that I can pretty much always listen too. There just really was a lot of good blues coming out in the 80s. And it wasn't all Vaughan and Cray. Pinetop Perkins and Professor Longhair definitely are a call-back to an earlier style.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 16, 2017 11:45:56 GMT -5
Just thinking about how I first discovered the blues while writing the above reply to slam, and, actually, one of the musicians who really turned me on to blues generally was an English guitarist named Dave Kelly. He was a member of the ever popular Blues Band, but he would often stop in to do special solo sessions for the "Blues on 2" radio program. His authentic-sounding covers of the likes of Robert Johnson or Muddy Waters were a really big influence on me at such a tender age (I would've been 13 or 14, I guess). Here's Mr. Kelly doing Johnson's "Crossroads Blues" from that same mid-80s time period as I used to listen to him on the radio...not bad for a white guy from Streatham, London! You can call it blasphemy if you want, but I'd damn sight rather listen to that than Eric Clapton.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 16, 2017 12:30:23 GMT -5
Just thinking about how I first discovered the blues while writing the above reply to slam, and, actually, one of the musicians who really turned me on to blues generally was an English guitarist named Dave Kelly. He was a member of the ever popular Blues Band, but he would often stop in to do special solo sessions for the "Blues on 2" radio program. His authentic-sounding covers of the likes of Robert Johnson or Muddy Waters were a really big influence on me at such a tender age (I would've been 13 or 14, I guess). Here's Mr. Kelly doing Johnson's "Crossroads Blues" from that same mid-80s time period as I used to listen to him on the radio...not bad for a white guy from Streatham, London! You can call it blasphemy if you want, but I'd damn sight rather listen to that than Eric Clapton. I concur! I think Eric Clapton is really overrated. I mean, he's a fine, fine player, no doubts there, but he lacks any real spark of passion or authenticity, as far as I'm concerned. Well, he has done since Cream split up in 1969, anyway. His stuff with Cream, John Mayall's Bluesbreakers and the Yardbirds is quite listenable.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 16, 2017 14:20:55 GMT -5
I also lost my passion for current music by the late 1980's. Maybe some of it was natural that as you get older your priorities change and there are more distractions and serious subjects to get involved . Some of it was just getting tired of MTV by that point. A big chunk was the horrible state music radio devolved . Now radio stations have lost their individual voice, cobbled up by huge corporations and using a playlist spit out by computer and listener analysis. There is always great music out there.But by the late 80's if they did not have the right visual appeal for MTV or fit corporate radio's accepted profile, you would not hear it
And record companies saw no problem because they were making the most money ever with the entry of CDs to the marketplace. CDs were cheaper to produce than vinyl but they sold a bill of goods to the consumer to justify charging more than vinyl. And the consumer was buying tons of product they already owned on vinyl. It was the days of Wine and Roses for them
It took about 10 years before I got my new music groove back. What triggered it-I don't know
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 16, 2017 16:15:50 GMT -5
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