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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 9, 2024 16:49:34 GMT -5
Favorite albums of 1984
#7 – James Cotton – High Compression
One of Cotton's best and most interesting albums. Side One has Cotton in a traditional grouping with guitarist Magic Slim and the great pianist Pinetop Perkins. Side Two has him in more contemporary group with guitarist Michael Coleman and a three-piece horn section. It's an interesting and eclectic experiment that works very well. I'd say that Superharp is the standout, but Diggin' My Potatoes is a solid cut as well.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 10, 2024 11:59:33 GMT -5
Favorite albums of 1984
#6 - Scorpions – Love at First Sting
As I've mentioned, there aren't a lot of albums from the 80s that I listened to then, that I still listen to now. But there are a few...and there are a few that still hold up for me and I can enjoy now and then. The Scorpions tend to be one of those groups.
Maybe it was just where I was...but this album seemed HUGE in 1984. I can still remember the lyrics from about half the songs on it. This is just such a strong album for the Scorps with their biggest single of the 80s in "Rock You Like a Hurricane," probably their best ballad in "Still Loving You," and seriously underrated tracks in "Bad Boys Running Wild" and "Big City Nights." No, I don't listen to it that often...but this is one from my youth I don't feel bad about re-visiting.
And you gotta have the MTV videos for it to all be right.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 10, 2024 12:18:57 GMT -5
1974, continued:
Relayer, by Yes
As I've mentioned, I'm not a prog fan at all. Yes leaves me completely cold. #8 - The Unforgettable Fire by U2I'm not a massive U2 fan, by any means, but they had a run of three albums between 1984 and 1988 that I really enjoy. Prior to that, I find the band a bit too self-consciously political and over-earnest, and afterwards I find them insufferably post-ironic (not that there weren't occasional good singles from both of those eras). But the period of U2's recording career that I really enjoy listening to begins with The Unforgettable Fire. It's a very atmospheric record, with a murky, experimental vagueness to tracks like "Promenade", "The Unforgettable Fire" and "Elvis Presley and America", courtesy of producers Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois. Even the rockier songs like "A Sort of Homecoming" and "Wire" seem shrouded in a misty, not-quite-there ambience. It's an album driven more by emotion than by intellect; an artsy record, for sure, but one that doesn't ever sound deliberately artsy. Really, it's only the rock anthem and big hit "Pride (In the Name of Love)" – which is easily one of my favourite U2 songs ever – that sounds like the U2 of earlier albums. Rather than post that big hit though, I'm gonna offer up "A Sort of Homecoming" instead. Partly because it's a good example of the murky, experimental sound I mentioned earlier, but mostly because it's an intensely personal song for me. Every time I hear its sweeping guitar textures, propulsive drum shuffle, and Bono's heartfelt and breathlessly romantic mystic/mythic lyrics, I am instantly transported back to a certain place, a certain time, with a certain person, walking home in the chilly pre-dawn towards the lights of my home town. I'm not a big U2 fan either, but I don't mind their music from this era. I won't actively seek it out, but I generally won't turn it off or be offended if it comes on. late finishing up with 1974 so I'll be brief: Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy), by Brian EnoThis was the second of Eno's solo albums but the first that I heard, which might be partly why it's remained my favourite. It's different from his others, even his other vocal albums - more cohesive. I think Phil Manzanera cn¸ontributes a lot to this one - it's one of my favourite things I've heard him do. This is also a great sounding album - I remember one time when I got a new set of headphones this was the first cd I put on to see how they sounded. I'll just post the opening track to give an idea: If my life depended on it, I couldn't name a single song by Brian Eno. I'd be a dead man in a heartbeat.
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Post by driver1980 on Apr 11, 2024 5:58:49 GMT -5
Thirty years ago today, Oasis’ debut single, Supersonic, was released (it later appeared on their debut album, Definitely Maybe):
I do like Oasis, and it’s a shame we couldn’t perhaps have seen a reunion for their thirtieth anniversary.
I’ve never been entirely convinced by media reports of dissension between Noel and Liam Gallagher. Sure, they’re estranged, and certainly following their own paths, but I do sometimes wonder if the media has overstated the dissension. Anyway, they certainly released a lot of great albums, and left their mark on the British rock scene.
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Post by berkley on Apr 11, 2024 7:09:29 GMT -5
Thirty years ago today, Oasis’ debut single, Supersonic, was released (it later appeared on their debut album, Definitely Maybe): I do like Oasis, and it’s a shame we couldn’t perhaps have seen a reunion for their thirtieth anniversary. I’ve never been entirely convinced by media reports of dissension between Noel and Liam Gallagher. Sure, they’re estranged, and certainly following their own paths, but I do sometimes wonder if the media has overstated the dissension. Anyway, they certainly released a lot of great albums, and left their mark on the British rock scene.
At the time I was a little turned off by the hype around them - "the new Beatles", etc - and thus probably didn't give them their due. Since then I've gradually come to appreciate them a little more, especially as good pop songwriters. I still don't like the sound of the lead singer's voice too much - not that it's a huge turn-off, but it isn't a plus for them, to my ears, purely as a matter of personal taste. But I plan to listen to them more as I continue revisiting the 1990s, maybe even buy one or two of their cds.
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Post by driver1980 on Apr 11, 2024 7:14:56 GMT -5
Hype doesn’t help. I hate anybody or anything being described as “the new this” or “the next that”. No sportsman should be described as, say, “the next Michael Jordan” or something. No band should be described as “the new Beatles”. It’s unfair to such people, and it’s about being YOU (or should be).
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Post by berkley on Apr 11, 2024 7:16:12 GMT -5
OK, I listened to the Fort Worth song and read a bit of his wiki page. I admit I've had the wrong idea about him all this time, thinking he was one of these slick "modern country" guys, or whatever the term is when apparently he was known for the opposite, returning to a ore traditional sound. I could probably listen to some of this, based on the one song, though I'm not sure I'd ever become an enthusiast.
Early 80s country radio was still pretty much Urban Cowboy, with a a few vintage acts still hanging on and the last vestiges of outlaw peeking through. George Strait was one of the very few new acts doing traditional honky-tonk based country music until the “new traditionalist” movement started to hit in 1986 with Dwight Yoakam and Randy Travis and then Marty Stuart a couple years later. Dwight Yoakum I always liked, especially in his more rockabilly mode. Randy Travis had a good voice, but I don't remember any specific songs right now. My memory is that I liked his voice more than his material, but it's been along time. Marty Stuart, I know only as a name, can't picture his sound. I was never more than a casual country listener, apart from a few specific artists, so my impressions could well be way off once again.
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Post by berkley on Apr 11, 2024 7:25:48 GMT -5
Favorite albums of 1984 #6 - Scorpions – Love at First Sting
As I've mentioned, there aren't a lot of albums from the 80s that I listened to then, that I still listen to now. But there are a few...and there are a few that still hold up for me and I can enjoy now and then. The Scorpions tend to be one of those groups. Maybe it was just where I was...but this album seemed HUGE in 1984. I can still remember the lyrics from about half the songs on it. This is just such a strong album for the Scorps with their biggest single of the 80s in "Rock You Like a Hurricane," probably their best ballad in "Still Loving You," and seriously underrated tracks in "Bad Boys Running Wild" and "Big City Nights." No, I don't listen to it that often...but this is one from my youth I don't feel bad about re-visiting. And you gotta have the MTV videos for it to all be right.
I don't know them really well, just their biggest radio songs, so I don't think I've heard this album all the way through. I tend to prefer their ballads over their rockers - "Still Loving You" might be my favourite song of theirs. The singer has an amazing voice for this style of music. I saw them live in the 2000s or early 2010s and he still hit all the high notes no trouble at all.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 11, 2024 9:53:45 GMT -5
Favorite albums of 1984
#5 – Tom Russell – Heart on a Sleeve
Tom Russell's solo debut gives us two of his best songs in Gallo Del Cielo (which Ian Tyson had recorded the year before) and St. Olav's Gate. It just hints at the performer and the songwriter that Russell would become, but, it's a solid debut. Gallo Del Cielo, in particularly, shows the type of western based folk that make Russell one of my favorite songwriters. A good album, with one absolutely brilliant song (and a couple that are really good) set the stage for a career as an incredible songwriter who tells stories nobody else would ever consider telling.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 12, 2024 12:20:01 GMT -5
Favorite albums of 1984
#4 – Robert Earl Keen – No Kinda Dancer
No Kinda Dancer was Keen's debut album and it's a doozy. The fact that it's at #4 is no condemnation, because one through four in 1984 are all about a hairsbreadth apart. The songs are all written by Keen, with assists by fellow Texas A&M classmate Lyle Lovett and Nanci Griffith. This is a bare-bones set, mostly acoustic, and it shows that Keen is going to give us a Texas troubadour's look at people with a little bit of a wink in his eye.
Pretty clearly best known for "The Front Porch Song," co-written with Lovett, "The Armadillo Jacket" and "Swervin in My Lane" are almost as memorable. It's a very well done debut album and it made it clear that Keen was going to be a songwriter to watch...one who wasn't going to fit very neatly into either the country or the folk scene. Ultimately he would become a cornerstone of what we now call Americana.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 13, 2024 13:21:21 GMT -5
Playing catch up, as I've spent most of the last three days in bed with a cold and raging temperature, so not really felt up to contributing to this thread in any meaningful way...
Favorite albums of 1984 #7 – James Cotton – High Compression
Again, like the George Strait tracks you posted earlier, this is a bit of a revelation insofar as I wasn't really aware that there was such authentic down-home blues being recorded in the mid-80s. I tend to view '80s blues as being like Robert Cray or Eric Clapton, both of whose music from that era is soulless to the point of being almost obsolete as blues, in my view. That track "Diggin' My Potatoes" is really gritty and rootsie Chicago-style blues though – great harp playing too! It sounds very much in the tradition of Little Walter. The track "Superharp" is a little more identifiably an 80s recording, but it's still pretty great. Nice stuff. Favorite albums of 1984 #6 - Scorpions – Love at First Sting
Oh Lordy, this really isn't my kind of thing at all, I'm afraid Slam. I absolutely detest The Scorpions' music, but, as I think I mentioned a few pages back to driver1980 , I was friends with a lot of "Metallers" or "Metalheads" when I was a teenager in the mid-to-late '80s, so I got to hear lots of this kind of stuff. Looking up the cover of Love at First Sting online (and that's a terrible album title BTW!), yep...I definitely remember some of my mates having that album. I remember hearing that track "Rock You Like a Hurricane" back in the day too, and I think it was a reasonable sized hit here in the UK. Actually, their album covers were often pretty raunchy for the times, and often very misogynistic too! Which, of course, was par for the course with this kind of "cock-rock" ( see also Mötley Crüe, W.A.S.P., Ratt etc). What's that album they did with the business guy in the back of a limo pulling strands of bubblegum off a woman's exposed breast? That one sure sticks in my memory! And wasn't there another album by The Scorpions with a woman kneeling next to a dog in front of a man who was standing dominantly over them both? I mean, I can definitely laugh at the cartoonish misogyny of it all, but that would definitely not fly today! Musically, like a lot of those heavy metal bands from that era, I bet they were all great musicians though. But yeah...this isn't my thing at all, I'm afraid. Favorite albums of 1984 #5 – Tom Russell – Heart on a Sleeve
Tom Russell is somebody I've only vaguely heard of. Those two tracks you posted are pretty nice though. I'm not sure I'd feel the need to investigate further, but they're pleasant enough to listen to. Favorite albums of 1984 #4 – Robert Earl Keen – No Kinda Dancer
Again, this does not sound like mid-80s country music. I love its simplicity...it has an "indie" aesthetic to it, so I can quite see how the No Kinda Dancer album would've contributed and fed into the Alt. Country movement of the '90s and 2000s. Yeah, really nice stuff this.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 13, 2024 18:20:05 GMT -5
Favorite albums of 1984
#3 – Stevie Ray Vaughan – Couldn’t Stand the Weather
Stevie Ray's sophomore album followed on the heels of the phenomenon that was Texas Flood. And, it's a good follow-up...but that's a hard act to follow. Vaughan only made four studio albums. The fact that this is the third best shouldn't be held against it, because it's still one of the better blues albums of the 80s. And keep in mind that I'm only talking about the original album as it was released in 1984, not the various re-issues with extra songs and stuff. This was a super tight eight tracks that clocked in at a svelte 38:03.
With four originals by Vaughan (two of which were instrumentals), there's some reliance on covers. But when one of those covers is what may be the definitive version of W.C. Clark & Michael Kindred's "Cold Shot" that's not by any means a bad thing. This is a very good blues album. It just had the misfortune to follow a great blues album.
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Post by commond on Apr 13, 2024 18:26:50 GMT -5
Split Enz' Conflicting Emotions... Split Enz created some of New Zealand's finest pop songs, but they were nearing the end here. There was very little about this album that was musically interesting. Some OK songs but barely enough material to stitch together an album.
Tim Finn's Escapade... Tim Finn was never as good on his own as he was working with Spit Enz and Crowded House. I hope he isn't reading this, but he simply isn't as good as his brother.
Daniel Johnston's Yip/Jump Music... Yet another album from Daniel Johnston. The tunes here weren't as catchy as on other albums, but you have to admire how amazingly prolific this guy was. This is generally more of a positive album than his more tortured stuff. Topics covered include Casper the Friendly Ghost, The Beatles, King Kong, and Danny Rapp of Danny and the Juniors fame.
Tony Rice's Church Street Blues... this is meant to be progressive bluegrass. I don't know enough about bluegrass to tell you what makes this "progressive." I assume it borrows elements from other forms of music. It's a nice record, though.
Mari Wilson's Showpeople... this was interesting. Mari Wilson was a British pop and jazz singer who did a retro throwback thing with a 60s beehive. It seems like she's taking the piss at first, but it ends up being a genuine homage to the era. She does a mean cover of Cry Me a River.
James Booker's Classified... this was a fun album. You don't hear a lot of New Orlean Blues from 1983, but this was the real deal. The highlight is an incredible cover of King of the Road.
The Henchmen's We've Come to Play! DIY New Zealand punk rock. Terrible sound quality, but fun to hear what a group of West Aucklanders were trying to do out of a garage in 1983.
Liquid Liquid's Optimo... This dance punk EP is most notable for the song Cavern, which Melle Mel stole the bassline from for White Lines. That led to lawsuits and Sugar Hill Records filing for bankruptcy to avoid paying Liquid Liquid the money they were due. I believe they did get some money from the song when Duran Duran covered it years later. Anyway, the EP is really good. Well worth your time.
This Mortal Coil's This Mortal Coil... This EP foreshadows the band's debut LP from the following year, and features one of the creepier album covers of 1983, intentionally or otherwise. There's never really a mood, time or place that makes me turn on some dream pop, but I can understand people who love the ethereal nature of it. And it was definitely a new style that was emerging, so that's always interesting. So, by all means, check it out.
Anthony Davis' Hemispheres... this was an avant-garde jazz record, but not an overly challenging one. Of course, you have to be in the mood to listen to something like this since it's not exactly background music, but it wasn't as messed up as some avant-garde jazz can get.
Naked Spots Dance's Falling... for the past week or so, I've been discovering forgotten New Zealand records that aren't that well known in NZ. Mostly, because they're DIY efforts, I assume. It's kind of neat to hear what folks were getting up to back home. This is pretty cool post-punk record with female vocals. Held its own, I thought.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 13, 2024 18:38:03 GMT -5
Playing catch up, as I've spent most of the last three days in bed with a cold and raging temperature, so not really felt up to contributing to this thread in any meaningful way...
Favorite albums of 1984 #7 – James Cotton – High Compression
Again, like the George Strait tracks you posted earlier, this is a bit of a revelation insofar as I wasn't really aware that there was such authentic down-home blues being recorded in the mid-80s. I tend to view '80s blues as being like Robert Cray or Eric Clapton, both of whose music from that era is soulless to the point of being almost obsolete as blues, in my view. That track "Diggin' My Potatoes" is really gritty and rootsie Chicago-style blues though – great harp playing too! It sounds very much in the tradition of Little Walter. The track "Superharp" is a little more identifiably an 80s recording, but it's still pretty great. Nice stuff. Favorite albums of 1984 #6 - Scorpions – Love at First Sting
Oh Lordy, this really isn't my kind of thing at all, I'm afraid Slam. I absolutely detest The Scorpions' music, but, as I think I mentioned a few pages back to driver1980 , I was friends with a lot of "Metallers" or "Metalheads" when I was a teenager in the mid-to-late '80s, so I got to hear lots of this kind of stuff. Looking up the cover of Love at First Sting online (and that's a terrible album title BTW!), yep...I definitely remember some of my mates having that album. I remember hearing that track "Rock You Like a Hurricane" back in the day too, and I think it was a reasonable sized hit here in the UK. Actually, their album covers were often pretty raunchy for the times, and often very misogynistic too! Which, of course, was par for the course with this kind of "cock-rock" ( see also Mötley Crüe, W.A.S.P., Ratt etc). What's that album they did with the business guy in the back of a limo pulling strands of bubblegum off a woman's exposed breast? That one sure sticks in my memory! And wasn't there another album by The Scorpions with a woman kneeling next to a dog in front of a man who was standing dominantly over them both? I mean, I can definitely laugh at the cartoonish misogyny of it all, but that would definitely not fly today! Musically, like a lot of those heavy metal bands from that era, I bet they were all great musicians though. But yeah...this isn't my thing at all, I'm afraid. Favorite albums of 1984 #5 – Tom Russell – Heart on a Sleeve
Tom Russell is somebody I've only vaguely heard of. Those two tracks you posted are pretty nice though. I'm not sure I'd feel the need to investigate further, but they're pleasant enough to listen to. Favorite albums of 1984 #4 – Robert Earl Keen – No Kinda Dancer
Again, this does not sound like mid-80s country music. I love its simplicity...it has an "indie" aesthetic to it, so I can quite see how the No Kinda Dancer album would've contributed and fed into the Alt. Country movement of the '90s and 2000s. Yeah, really nice stuff this. Brief responses where necessary...or maybe not necessary. I have no use for Clapton at all. 60s, 70s, 80s or beyond. However, I do like Robert Cray a fair bit. But I didn't for years. Then I got it. Cray isn't a bluesman. He's lumped with them. He's cataloged with them. But he's not. He's an old school rhythm & blues guy...almost a jump blues guy. If you recognize that and don't expect gut-bucket or even Chicago blues his stuff works a whole lot better. I mostly don't listen to music of the type made by The Scorpions any more. But there are a handful of bands from when I was a teen that still work for me. The Scorpions and ZZ Top are two of that small handful. Tom Russell is maybe the most intelligent songwriter I've ever come across. Dude wrote songs about Sterling Hayden, Bobby Driscoll, Nina Simone and the movie Touch of Evil (kind of). You'll see more of him from me. Country music in the late 70s and up to the mid 80s was, by and large, awful. At least mainstream country radio. But there was an undercurrent that would become Alt. Country and then Americana that was there for people who were able to find it. Robert Earl Keen was part of that, along with Guy Clark, Joe Ely, Jimmie Dale Gilmore, and a few more. Now, by 1986, you had a bit of a renaissance in country with the likes of Dwight Yoakam, Randy Travis, Steve Earle, Lyle Lovett and Marty Stuart (a bit later) shaking things up for a few years. Then it went to hell again.
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Post by berkley on Apr 13, 2024 19:23:52 GMT -5
Favorite albums of 1984 #6 - Scorpions – Love at First Sting
Oh Lordy, this really isn't my kind of thing at all, I'm afraid Slam. I absolutely detest The Scorpions' music, but, as I think I mentioned a few pages back to driver1980 , I was friends with a lot of "Metallers" or "Metalheads" when I was a teenager in the mid-to-late '80s, so I got to hear lots of this kind of stuff. Looking up the cover of Love at First Sting online (and that's a terrible album title BTW!), yep...I definitely remember some of my mates having that album. I remember hearing that track "Rock You Like a Hurricane" back in the day too, and I think it was a reasonable sized hit here in the UK. Actually, their album covers were often pretty raunchy for the times, and often very misogynistic too! Which, of course, was par for the course with this kind of "cock-rock" ( see also Mötley Crüe, W.A.S.P., Ratt etc). What's that album they did with the business guy in the back of a limo pulling strands of bubblegum off a woman's exposed breast? That one sure sticks in my memory! And wasn't there another album by The Scorpions with a woman kneeling next to a dog in front of a man who was standing dominantly over them both? I mean, I can definitely laugh at the cartoonish misogyny of it all, but that would definitely not fly today! Musically, like a lot of those heavy metal bands from that era, I bet they were all great musicians though. But yeah...this isn't my thing at all, I'm afraid.
Of course it's impossible to look at or listen to this kind of thing today without thinking of Spinal Tap. Your memories of the questionable content and design choices for some of those album covers immediately made me think of the line from the band's manager in the movie, "You should have seen what they wanted to put there - it wasn't a glove, I'll tell you that!"
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