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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 27, 2024 17:31:36 GMT -5
Freda Payne- Band Of Gold (1970)
Huge hit single, a song I've heard so many times over the years. But recently I paid more attention to the lyrics and they are so ambiguous The song is about a newly married bride, abandoned by her husband on their wedding night Why? Was he impotent? Was he gay? 55 years later and we'll never know
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Post by berkley on Oct 27, 2024 22:03:14 GMT -5
Freda Payne- Band Of Gold (1970)Huge hit single, a song I've heard so many times over the years. But recently I paid more attention to the lyrics and they are so ambiguous The song is about a newly married bride, abandoned by her husband on their wedding night Why? Was he impotent? Was he gay? 55 years later and we'll never know I vaguely recall hearing this song before but never listened to the lyrics and had no idea there was so much ambiguity and speculation surrounding them. The wikipedia article has some interestng information about some lyrics that were edited out of the final release and may help to explain what the writers had in mind:
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Post by impulse on Oct 28, 2024 11:40:58 GMT -5
Ok, trying to squeeze these in. I will try and be brief. Sorry for the delay! Again in no particular order of ranking, but this one is chronological from a prior entry... 2. Metallica - Metallica, better know as The Black Album (1991) My History with it: This one was a very natural progression for me. My experience with getting into rock basically goes "WHOA! This is INCREDIBLE. I need more. MORE. This isn't enough anymore. I need heavier." I can basically draw a straight line from Aerosmith directly to Metallica. Specifically, the song I posted from Big Ones earlier, Walk on Water, is where I remember my first major impact from heavy chugging guitars and blaring power chords and being holy shit, that is so cool! WOW. The power and energy in the music just fascinated me and sucked me in. I very quickly was like okay this is cool, but what's heavier than this? I was directed to Metallica as the next logical step up without overdoing it. I don't remember the exact timelines or events. Again, this all happened in a few years. I was around mid-high school at this time I think because that is where I met other folks into rock music beyond one or two. I also heard the song Fuel on the morning video announcements at school and thinking it was cool, so put the name in my head. At some point, another peer I think suggested I try Metallica when I asked, so I did, and here we are. The Band/Album:This is another one where it was very difficult to pick a specific album. The order I was introduced to them did not necessarily correlate to what my preferences ended up being, but I picked this one because of maximum impact. I was clearly well into classic rock by this point and seeking out harder stuff. I had dipped my toe into the water a bit. I got the Reload album for Christmas or a birthday or something as it was the most-current release at the time, and I knew the current single from school. It was fine. I later found a recurring Metallica segment on my local radio station and heard "real" Metallica from the 80s and went "Oh, they're right, this is MUCH better." In addition to comics, music was my other primary online forum experience at the time, and this was when you still had to track down albums if you wanted to hear them. There was no Napster or Spotify. You went to the local CD store and hoped they had it. If not, you could try Walmart, but they censored their stuff and didn't have a great selection. Occasionally, I could persuade my parents to drive us across town to the Best Biy (just the one in the city at the time), and that place was like mecca to local teenagers. The selection and prices were unmatched. Anyway, somehow I concluded the consensus was that the black album was THE definitive one to get for getting into Metallica. It was heavy, it sounded good, had great songs, and was a mix of old and new. I ended up getting it for some milestone day. Maybe birthday.
The Impact:
I remember the first time I put it on, loud, and just grinning like a complete idiot as the opening and built up for Enter Sandman started. I didn't know this at the time, but the SUPERB audio production really elevated the material, and the POWER and energy and buildup of it was incredible. Then it builds to that iconic moment when the guitars explode, and that catchy-ass riff plays. The guitars are so fat and chunky. The palm-muted CHUNK CHUNK CHUNK CHUNK was like food for my soul lol. Then he isn't singing, he is YELLING the verse. It was the best thing I had ever heard up to that point, and it cemented something for me. Before that, I was sticking my toe into metal. After that, I was ALL IN. There were other songs and moments that were canon events, but this was a big one. No matter how played out it gets, I still love this one and never get sick of it. It's one of my favorites to play along to both on guitar and drums. Example Song: Enter Sandman So much for being short.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 28, 2024 11:51:04 GMT -5
Ok, trying to squeezer these in. I will try and be brief. Sorry for the delay! Again in no particular of ranking, but this one is chronological from a prior entry... 2. Metallica - Metallica, better know as The Black Album (1991)
I suspect I've listened to this album at some point. I think the only Metallica album I ever owned was Ride the Lightning, which I would have purchased probably in '85. They are definitely not something I want to listen to now.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 28, 2024 12:02:40 GMT -5
More Murky Lyrics From Hit Songs
Jonathan King - Everyone's Gone To The Moon (1965)
A one-hit wonder about the mid-60s space race, I think The song reached #4 in the UK, #17 in the US I'm baffled about the point this song is trying to make
Streets full of people, all alone
Roads full of houses, never home
Church full of singing, out of tune
Everyone's gone to the moon
Eyes full of sorrow, never wet
Hands full of money, all in debt
Sun coming out in the middle of June
Everyone's gone to the moon
Long time ago
Life had begun
Everyone went to the sun
Cars full of motors, painted green
Mouths full of chocolate-covered cream
Arms that can only lift a spoon
Everyone's gone to the moon
Everyone's gone to the moon
Everyone's gone to the moon
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Post by Doghouse Reilly on Oct 28, 2024 12:06:20 GMT -5
I didn't have enough to say in the "top ten influential albums" aside from what anybody could guess who has even a slightest impression of me from my posts in our music threads. In general though, each new Ozzy-era Sabbath record (aside from his final two) I picked up in the early 80s was a revelation. "Where has this been all my life" was my reaction to each of those records, but that says almost as much about my lack of social connections as it does about the music. Sabbath ain't the most progressive group, but the non-radio-friendly song structures impressed the heck out of me, after the heaviness and anger, of course. Ditto for the other classic metal bands, but Sabbath was the grand-daddy.
Our home was virtually music-free, which was a shame, because my dad, in his younger days as a single man, was a jazz drummer. I know he made some money off of it, but I don't know if it was ever a sole source of income for him. By the time my parents got married, he was a full-time alcoholic, to the point that any interest he had in the drums was supplanted by interest in whiskey. We had never-touched drum equipment in our garage for my whole childhood. But there were still some musical influences I got from my parents.
My dad had some cassettes of jazz festivals. I liked what I heard on those, but they were lost a long time ago. Once in a while I sample some jazz to see if I can find anything that I like as much as I liked those. But I pretty much gave that search up after a few decades, writing off my memories of listenable jazz as youthful exaggeration. Sabbath gets jazzy sometimes, and that will suffice.
The one lasting musical influence I got from my parents was Irish folk music. Every Saint Patrick's Day, we'd play the Clancy Brother And Tommy Makem record collection all day long. I still love that music and listen to it regularly. And I branched out a bit to other non-CBATM Celtic folk music.
I know we had some other records in the house, probably musical soundtracks and old stuff like Lawrence Welk. The only other song I specifically remember being played was that Green Beret song. Even as a kid, I cringed at the jingoism.
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Post by Farrar on Oct 28, 2024 19:11:16 GMT -5
3. The Who - Quadrophenia
This came out in 1973 so it was a big album for me in 1974. My first Who album, an the one that made me go back and get their earlier records, starting with Who's Next, then Tommy, and more or less working backwards through their chronology. ... Same for my sibs and me...our first Who album was Quadrophenia (and we still have it!), which we played the hell out of for years, much to our parents' disgust ("Kids! Turn that noise down!"). Then we got the older albums such as Who's Next, some of them thanks to those Columbia House record club deals.
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Post by berkley on Oct 28, 2024 20:34:38 GMT -5
3. The Who - Quadrophenia
This came out in 1973 so it was a big album for me in 1974. My first Who album, an the one that made me go back and get their earlier records, starting with Who's Next, then Tommy, and more or less working backwards through their chronology. ... Same for my sibs and me...our first Who album was Quadrophenia (and we still have it!), which we played the hell out of for years, much to our parents' disgust ("Kids! Turn that noise down!"). Then we got the older albums such as Who's Next, some of them thanks to those Columbia House record club deals. Yes, I assume my copy is at my brother's place, since he has all our old albums - I've never owned a turntable since moving away so it would be pointless for e to have any here. But when I listened to my cd the other day for the thread I realised that I must have one of these re-mixed versions or something because there were many times when it sounded quite different to my memory of the vinyl record. So I'll have to see if I can find another cd edition that's more like the original.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 28, 2024 20:44:02 GMT -5
Same for my sibs and me...our first Who album was Quadrophenia (and we still have it!), which we played the hell out of for years, much to our parents' disgust ("Kids! Turn that noise down!"). Then we got the older albums such as Who's Next, some of them thanks to those Columbia House record club deals. Yes, I assume my copy is at my brother's place, since he has all our old albums - I've never owned a turntable since moving away so it would be pointless for e to have any here. But when I listened to my cd the other day for the thread I realised that I must have one of these re-mixed versions or something because there were many times when it sounded quite different to my memory of the vinyl record. So I'll have to see if I can find another cd edition that's more like the original. A possible explanation. Quadrophenia was released in 1973 A movie and soundtrack version was released in 1979. 7 songs from the original album were left of and many of the others were remixed/ re-recorded. That's not the version to own
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Post by impulse on Oct 28, 2024 21:06:13 GMT -5
And finally, since I'm running behind, here is # 1. I'm going to fudge the rules a bit by using two, BUT, in my defense, others have done so, too, and it's because they both collectively achieved two parts of the same goal for me. And this is once again and especially in this case, not in order of favoritism. It just took the longest to decide on the last entry, and this entry did open up a pathway I struggled to get into. 1. It's a 2-for-1... Green Day: Nimrod (1997) / Smash Mouth: Fush Yu Mang (1997)BACKGROUND:So, my progress from rock to harder rock to metal was pretty straight and narrow. I didn't take a lot of detours or offshoots. I enjoyed a handful of alternative bands, but for the most part, I didn't like mixers with my rock at the time. It took me a LONG time to get into grunge, but that's another story for another time. But being a teenager in the mid to late 90s, a lot of my friends were into punk and ska. And I. Was. Not. I didn't like the sound of it, I didn't like the musical phrasing, the rougher production quality, the whiny alternative vibe, any of it. There was a handful of isolated exceptions here and there. I loved Come Out and Play by The Offspring on the radio, which while not a punk song was by a punk band. I'd get into them eventually. But yes, a lot of my friends were into them, and I didn't dig it at all until these two albums. Green Day Nimrod: I won this in a giveaway contest when it was new, and hey, free rock album. Green Day has a more commercial sound and wasn't as pure punk by this time, which annoyed their classic friends but made it a great entry point for me to get the punk flavoring in a dish I could enjoy. I listened to it a lot, and I started to enjoy a lot of the songs. This laid the groundwork for getting more into other punk bands, as well as gaining more common ground with my friends. I wouldn't say punk is a favorite genre of mine even today, but there are quite a few albums by a fair few bands I enjoy a good bit, and a few I really like a whole lot. I've come to really appreciate the hardcore punk influence that the metal guys picked up in the 80s to make thrash metal and its successor genres, for sure. I'm more a metal guy, but I have a healthy enjoyment of punk music now, too, and this one opened the door. Smash Mouth: Fush Yu Mang:Like anyone else with two ears and a heartbeat in 1997, I heard Walkin' on the Sun incessantly on the radio. And I enjoyed the hell out of it. Catchy-ass song, great horn hook, cool retro vibe, fun vocal delivery, and doesn't overstay its welcome. What more could you want in a power pop song? But that was all I knew about them, until... A friend of mine got it, and he put it on one day while we were hanging out playing Playstation. That's it, just Playstation. No number. There was just the one at the time. Anyway, he was into the punk and ska side of things more than me, so he was more likely to put some on. What I wasn't prepared for was that the rest of the album sounded nothing like the single I heard all the time. I was still learning this was a common thing at that age. So, what I hear is an uptempo but fun, party-vibe sort of punk/ska band, but a bit diluted and wrapped in a more simplified pop-style packaging. And it worked. This was the first album where I actually enjoyed that punk/ska mixed sound, and it unlocked that path for me, too. Like punk, I've never been a huge ska fan, and my tastes there are primarily in that 90s/00s punk/ska hybrid third (I think?) wave, but I didn't like it at all before this album, so it was my gateway album. I've gotten into a few bands and enjoy them a lot, especially early Reel Big Fish who perfected the style of ska I like. So, because it made that path possible for me, it was worth mentioning, too. My general tastes are much broader these days, but early on, these were pretty big expansions in what I was into and allowed me to meld better with my friends. I've since been to many concerts and bought a lot of CDs, and that wouldn't have included any of these guys if not for these two albums. For my samples, I will pick songs that aren't as played to death on the radio and speak to the theme of the post. EXAMPLES:Green Day: Hitchin' a RideSmash Mouth: Flo
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Post by berkley on Oct 28, 2024 21:28:30 GMT -5
Yes, I assume my copy is at my brother's place, since he has all our old albums - I've never owned a turntable since moving away so it would be pointless for e to have any here. But when I listened to my cd the other day for the thread I realised that I must have one of these re-mixed versions or something because there were many times when it sounded quite different to my memory of the vinyl record. So I'll have to see if I can find another cd edition that's more like the original. A possible explanation. Quadrophenia was released in 1973 A movie and soundtrack version was released in 1979. 7 songs from the original album were left of and many of the others were remixed/ re-recorded. That's not the version to own This one's the original album, including all the songs (and with tiny, cd-sized reproductions of the original album cover and booklet with liner notes, photos, etc) plus bonus tracks, mostly demos. But it's possible that some of the individual tracks are the re-mixed versions from the soundtrack, I never thought of that. I was thinking it must be one of the many re-mixed releases of famous albums I've noticed the last few years - Fleetwood Mac have had a few, for example. I'll have to do a bit of research before I figure out which cd edition of Quarophenia I want to look for.
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Post by berkley on Oct 28, 2024 21:32:34 GMT -5
Ok, trying to squeeze these in. I will try and be brief. Sorry for the delay! Again in no particular order of ranking, but this one is chronological from a prior entry... 2. Metallica - Metallica, better know as The Black Album (1991)
I liked this cd when it came out and I think I still would, though it's been so long I can't say for sure. I next tried one of their earlier efforts - I think Master of Puppets? - but it was a bit too "thrashy" for me, so I pretty much gave up on them after that. But now I'm reminded of it I'll listen to this one again, if I still have it.
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Post by impulse on Oct 28, 2024 21:35:35 GMT -5
#3 - Synchronicity by The Police (1983) I don't have a good reason, but this is just one of those bands I never got around to diving into. I know the radio songs, but that's it. I need to spend some time there at some point.
John Lennon- John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band (December 1970) I generally think the Beatles members' combined far exceeds their later work, solo or with other groups, and by a wide margin. Lennon also got a bit too 70s brand of hippie for my tastes. That said, he has some great solo songs, too. I haven't listened to his albums to completion, and I really should at some point. 3. The Who - Quadrophenia
I was first introduced to The Who with their 70s synthy stuff which I didn't really enjoy. I later found my way to their 60s more taw, garage rocky song, which I enjoyed a lot more. Later, I started listening to all of their albums chronologically, and I enjoyed it right up until the late 70s/early 80s where it turned into vinegar on the spot. #1 Golden Hits by Roger Miller (Smash 1965) I am completely unfamiliar with this. I think I just missed it. #2 - Greatest Hits by Bob Dylan (1967) I've never been big into storytelling folk rock, but it would be hard to argue it was done better by someone else. My biggest appreciation for Dylan is both on acknowledging his impact and directly for his inspiration of Jimi Hendrix. Apparently Jimi was shy early on about singing and was insecure about not having a "singer's" voice. Dylan's simple delivery inspired him to just go and do it. I always thought that was neat. The Allman Brothers- At Fillmore East (July 1971) Another group I've never gotten into. It's a little more southern than I like in the southern rock I enjoy. That said, their talent is obvious and undeniable. I should give them a try.
Some fun trivia folks may not know (or around here, you guys might): Bobby Caldwell, drummer of Captain Beyond, formerly played with Johnny Winter who I believe sometimes toured with the Allmans. It was not unheard of for him to be playing additional percussion with them live, and my understanding this album features at least one said performance.
I thought the comics guys would appreciate the unexpected crossover.
2. David Bowie - The Man Who Sold the World Another one I never really got into for reason I don't really know. I like the titular song here. I should give him a try sometime. #1 - Greatest Hits and More by Donovan (1989) Before your post, I only knew Donovan from Mellow Yellow. I didn't realize he apparently originated or at least did an early version of Season of the Witch. That's a cool song that I hear a lot these days. My wife plays Lana Del Ray's cover a good bit. Cool mention. "Where has this been all my life" was my reaction to each of those records Sums up the feeling getting into metal.
I apologize to anyone whose post I missed. I tried to squeeze in what I could between work and guests. This was a fun idea! Thanks for putting it together.
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Post by tartanphantom on Oct 29, 2024 0:07:14 GMT -5
More Murky Lyrics From Hit Songs Jonathan King - Everyone's Gone To The Moon (1965)A one-hit wonder about the mid-60s space race, I think The song reached #4 in the UK, #17 in the US I'm baffled about the point this song is trying to make Streets full of people, all alone Roads full of houses, never home Church full of singing, out of tune Everyone's gone to the moon Eyes full of sorrow, never wet Hands full of money, all in debt Sun coming out in the middle of June Everyone's gone to the moon Long time ago Life had begun Everyone went to the sun Cars full of motors, painted green Mouths full of chocolate-covered cream Arms that can only lift a spoon Everyone's gone to the moon Everyone's gone to the moon Everyone's gone to the moon Unfortunately, his real-life escapades were not so murky.
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Post by tartanphantom on Oct 29, 2024 0:19:48 GMT -5
3. The Who - Quadrophenia
This came out in 1973 so it was a big album for me in 1974. My first Who album, an the one that made me go back and get their earlier records, starting with Who's Next, then Tommy, and more or less working backwards through their chronology. ... Same for my sibs and me...our first Who album was Quadrophenia (and we still have it!), which we played the hell out of for years, much to our parents' disgust ("Kids! Turn that noise down!"). Then we got the older albums such as Who's Next, some of them thanks to those Columbia House record club deals. Same for my sibs and me...our first Who album was Quadrophenia (and we still have it!), which we played the hell out of for years, much to our parents' disgust ("Kids! Turn that noise down!"). Then we got the older albums such as Who's Next, some of them thanks to those Columbia House record club deals. Yes, I assume my copy is at my brother's place, since he has all our old albums - I've never owned a turntable since moving away so it would be pointless for e to have any here. But when I listened to my cd the other day for the thread I realised that I must have one of these re-mixed versions or something because there were many times when it sounded quite different to my memory of the vinyl record. So I'll have to see if I can find another cd edition that's more like the original.
The original Quadrophenia is definitely my favorite Who album. I discovered it about 3 years after it came out, and I still have my original vinyl copy complete with the full-size photo-essay book. Just a great piece of 70's Who ephemera. Later, I also bought it on CD, but was disappointed that the CD version had been re-mixed a bit with the bass much less to the fore. I remember how gloriously assertive Entwhistle's bass was on "The Real Me", and throughout the vinyl edition. If you have a turntable, the vinyl release is definitely the way to go for "Maximum R&B" (a phrase the who used earlier in their career). Quadrophenia is likely the greatest post-Mod retrospective on Mod culture ever put to vinyl.
While I dearly love the entire record and know it by heart, if I had to pick one favorite track, it would be "Sea and Sand". Quadrophenia is a top pick desert island album for me.
While I have the later film on blu-ray, I never owned the film soundtrack, which is different from the original non-film version.
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