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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 26, 2020 12:20:18 GMT -5
I've been really into Library Music albums lately (De Wolfe, Musical Touch Sound, Conroy), many of them are from England. It started up again thanks to a new great sounding set of the Electric Banana albums (they were really The Pretty Things group moonlighting). I found out there is this great book about the KPM and Bruton library labels, but it would have to come from England and these days... that's two music related items I normally would've been ordered but for the current unknowable situation. The other is a long sought Paramounts At Abbey Road CD at an affordable price someone in Spain listed. I just can't do it... maybe another one later on will surface. Now if a certain early 10" Elektra Hally Wood album appears at a low price do not tell me about it.
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Post by Calidore on Mar 26, 2020 12:47:46 GMT -5
I still like that Waylon song and I must've heard it a few dozen times at least. I downloaded a U.S. tv special with him, Jessie Colter and James Garner on the road playing live in Mr. Lucky's in Arizona, and Red Rocks in Colorado for watching with my Dad and he loved it.
James Garner? Was he a musician also?
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Post by berkley on Mar 26, 2020 18:03:52 GMT -5
Top songs of 2019 #65 - Waylon Jennings - Are You Sure Hank Done it This WayThis is the mantra of the Outlaw Movement in country music. Waylon and Willie and the boys were trying to do something different, not just musically but also with the business of music. Ultimately I just love this song. I like the idea behind the song and the lyrics and the whole outlaw country movement as far as I understand it (back to basics, music driven by creative concerns rather than commercial trend-following?) but have to admit that musically this particular track doesn't grab me. I'm sure I have heard other stuff by Waylon Jennings that I liked more, though.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 26, 2020 18:18:23 GMT -5
Top songs of 2019 #65 - Waylon Jennings - Are You Sure Hank Done it This WayThis is the mantra of the Outlaw Movement in country music. Waylon and Willie and the boys were trying to do something different, not just musically but also with the business of music. Ultimately I just love this song. I like the idea behind the song and the lyrics and the whole outlaw country movement as far as I understand it (back to basics, music driven by creative concerns rather than commercial trend-following?) but have to admit that musically this particular track doesn't grab me. I'm sure I have heard other stuff by Waylon Jennings that I liked more, though. One of the things that tends to get overlooked about "outlaw country" was that it was as much or more about creative freedom and breaking the strangle-hold of Nashville as it was about the type of posturing that you got from, say, David Allen Coe. Bobby Bare was arguably the first "outlaw" though he's almost never viewed as part of outlaw country. That's because he was one of the first to fight for creative control over his albums and break the Nashville producer's control over how country albums were created and their content. Part of what resulted from that control was what allowed Willie Nelson to return from Austin and allowed Waylon to produce songs and albums that were stripped of the Countrypolitan artifice that had dominated for well over a decade.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 26, 2020 18:52:19 GMT -5
So, Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airman: are they country-rock or outlaw country? I've always thought of them as the former (with strong western swing influences), but I noticed that the Nashville Country Music Hall of Fame classified them as outlaw country when we visited.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 26, 2020 19:14:05 GMT -5
So, Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airman: are they country-rock or outlaw country? I've always thought of them as the former (with strong western swing influences), but I noticed that the Nashville Country Music Hall of Fame classified them as outlaw country when he visited. Accepting that labels tend to be in the eye of the labeler...I would never think of Commander Cody as outlaw country. Country-rock...yep. Western swing revival...sure. But outlaw...no way.
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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 26, 2020 19:35:38 GMT -5
I thought Commander Cody was kind of hippie-country, like New Riders Of The Purple Sage or Workingman's Dead/American Beauty Grateful Dead. Or maybe stoned-county? Stems and seeds references etc.? James Garner was an actor but he did play cards. He also sings with Waylon backstage in the tv special (@ 30:22) and on stage (@ 48:02).
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Post by berkley on Mar 26, 2020 20:57:20 GMT -5
So, Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airman: are they country-rock or outlaw country? I've always thought of them as the former (with strong western swing influences), but I noticed that the Nashville Country Music Hall of Fame classified them as outlaw country when he visited. Accepting that labels tend to be in the eye of the labeler...I would never think of Commander Cody as outlaw country. Country-rock...yep. Western swing revival...sure. But outlaw...no way. I had to look them up to remind myself but having done so I see that I only knew them from their AM radio hits Hot Rod Lincoln and Smoke Smoke Smoke that Cigarette - so I always thought of them, no doubt unfairly, as a kind of novelty act. I like both those tunes for what they are, but I'm guessing that their album material is more varied?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 26, 2020 21:50:18 GMT -5
Accepting that labels tend to be in the eye of the labeler...I would never think of Commander Cody as outlaw country. Country-rock...yep. Western swing revival...sure. But outlaw...no way. I had to look them up to remind myself but having done so I see that I only knew them from their AM radio hits Hot Rod Lincoln and Smoke Smoke Smoke that Cigarette - so I always thought of them, no doubt unfairly, as a kind of novelty act. I like both those tunes for what they are, but I'm guessing that their album material is more varied? I never considered either of those songs to be novelties. Both are pretty solid western swing standards (Hot Rod Lincoln started out as rockabilly). Cody and company made a couple of great albums but they could just never duplicate on vinyl the spontaneity and energy of their live shows. I think their version of “The House of Blue Lights” is as good as the song gets. Give either of their first two Warner Brothers albums “Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen” or “Tales from the Ozone“ a listen.
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Post by brianf on Mar 26, 2020 22:00:25 GMT -5
So, Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airman: are they country-rock or outlaw country? I've always thought of them as the former (with strong western swing influences), but I noticed that the Nashville Country Music Hall of Fame classified them as outlaw country when he visited. First song I ever heard by him was Two Triple Cheese Side Order of Fries - so he's always been a goofy rocker with twangy leanings to me
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Post by Confessor on Mar 26, 2020 22:51:11 GMT -5
I thought Commander Cody was kind of hippie-country, like New Riders Of The Purple Sage or Workingman's Dead/American Beauty Grateful Dead. Or maybe stoned-county? Stems and seeds references etc.? That's true, but personally, I've always thought of the early New Riders of the Purple Sage stuff as country-rock. It was just part of the whole West Coast counrty-rock thing begun by The Byrds, The Flying Burrito Brothers, Poco etc, on its way to the commercial pay-dirt of The Eagles, Dr. Hook etc. The two Grateful Dead albums you mention are, in my mind, more heavily indebted to Crosby, Stills & Nash than anything else.
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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 26, 2020 23:35:02 GMT -5
First song I ever heard by him was Two Triple Cheese Side Order of Fries - so he's always been a goofy rocker with twangy leanings to me Ah! I saw that so long ago, I loved that video! I'm not sure if I'd have ever remembered that was Commander Cody though. Dancing french fries! Maybe it was on Bombshelter Videos... I miss that program. Here is a video by old E-Bear way before I knew him (dig the hair), for all lovers of low budget stop-motion!
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Post by brianf on Mar 27, 2020 5:00:42 GMT -5
First song I ever heard by him was Two Triple Cheese Side Order of Fries - so he's always been a goofy rocker with twangy leanings to me Ah! I saw that so long ago, I loved that video! I'm not sure if I'd have ever remembered that was Commander Cody though. Dancing french fries! Maybe it was on Bombshelter Videos... I miss that program. Here is a video by old E-Bear way before I knew him (dig the hair), for all lovers of low budget stop-motion! Wow, thats a great vid - never seen it before! I love old school Seattle vids - I think my favorite is Mondo Vita's "Technical Difficulties"
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 27, 2020 10:13:33 GMT -5
Dylan checks in from out of nowhere. You'll need 17 minutes for this. Maybe posters of a certain age who lived through the events he's memorializing will be the most intrigued, but it's for all of us. Part history lesson, part reminiscence, part elegy, part hymn, part warning. And as always with the Master, hauntingly pertinent. Lyrics: www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bobdylan/murdermostfoul.html
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Post by berkley on Mar 27, 2020 14:30:32 GMT -5
Impressive. Good to see Dylan engaged with what's happening in the world and with recent history.
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