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Post by Red Oak Kid on Feb 24, 2017 16:25:27 GMT -5
I've always been bugged by the fact that prices on Dell and Gold Key movie and tv tie-in books are driven up by non comic book collectors. Fans of movie actors or tv shows buy these mainly for the photo covers. I wish they would stay off of our turf.
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Post by MDG on Feb 24, 2017 16:47:45 GMT -5
I've always been bugged by the fact that prices on Dell and Gold Key movie and tv tie-in books are driven up by non comic book collectors. Fans of movie actors or tv shows buy these mainly for the photo covers. I wish they would stay off of our turf. Isn't that what's going on today, though? A movie or TV announcement drives up the price of early appearances of a character? |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 24, 2017 16:50:35 GMT -5
I've always been bugged by the fact that prices on Dell and Gold Key movie and tv tie-in books are driven up by non comic book collectors. Fans of movie actors or tv shows buy these mainly for the photo covers. I wish they would stay off of our turf. And we'll all stop watching movies and TV. Wait a minute.... |
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Post by james on Feb 24, 2017 18:47:06 GMT -5
Not sure if this counts but every "1st appearance" and in some cases subsequent issues, of a title that has ridiculous prices because of a movie featuring character or guests stars character. Example price hikes of comics with Caliban in it because of Logan movie.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Feb 24, 2017 19:42:40 GMT -5
Here's an interesting one. Chamber of Chills #19 from Harvey Publications. I bought this at a local con in 1997 for $20 because I like Lee Elias, Harvey, and pre-Code horror. Last year I had it graded.  I was mildly surprised to learn it is a "File Copy." Big deal. What does that even mean? Anyway, this is a book that, when offered, fetches prices in the $1000 range, but not with comic book collectors. It's a hit with fans of the band The Misfits, who used the image for the sleeve to their single Die, Die My Darling. Now, I don't know anything about The Misfits. They sound like some cacophonous outfit that Dan B. might enjoy, but there you have it. Apart from the musical (?) connection, it's a fairly run-of-the-mill offering from the era. Admittedly a terrific cover, though. Don'cha think? |
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Feb 25, 2017 9:43:52 GMT -5
RE; File Copies
I think a File Copy is a comic that came from the offices of the publisher. Publishers would get copies of each issue for their own use. But there is probably someone here who can give you a better answer.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Feb 25, 2017 17:30:12 GMT -5
RE; File Copies I think a File Copy is a comic that came from the offices of the publisher. Publishers would get copies of each issue for their own use. But there is probably someone here who can give you a better answer. Sorry. I was not being clear. Of course I know the definition of "File Copy," I just don't see that fact enhancing the book's cachet in an any appreciable way, as I'm sure every publisher kept copies of their books for legal, archival, or other purposes. I can see how a Gaines File Copy or a Stan Lee File Copy may have an appeal that adds value. The bland "File Copy" note on this book just seems like a very generic and un-spectacular feature. |
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 25, 2017 18:24:58 GMT -5
RE; File Copies I think a File Copy is a comic that came from the offices of the publisher. Publishers would get copies of each issue for their own use. But there is probably someone here who can give you a better answer. Sorry. I was not being clear. Of course I know the definition of "File Copy," I just don't see that fact enhancing the book's cachet in an any appreciable way, as I'm sure every publisher kept copies of their books for legal, archival, or other purposes. I can see how a Gaines File Copy or a Stan Lee File Copy may have an appeal that adds value. The bland "File Copy" note on this book just seems like a very generic and un-spectacular feature. In particular, the file copy designation for Harvey Comics is pretty misleading. A number of years ago now, I think in the 80's (?) there was a warehouse find of thousands of copies of unsold Harvey back issues. Apparently they just took their unsold inventory and stuck it in this warehouse. Some issues had entire unopened cases available. These are called file copies, supposedly because Harvey stamped them with a "file copy" designation or something on the first page. This is what I've read, anyway. So Harvey file copies are very, very plentiful. This specific book, though... I think you're underselling the value in the current market. I'm no expert on pre-code horror, but a quick look at completed and sold ebay listings shows one just a month or two ago for a non-graded copy listed as a 4.5, and that went for almost $1700. I'd think a graded 5.0 with the file copy designation would likely exceed that. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Feb 25, 2017 20:38:18 GMT -5
This specific book, though... I think you're underselling the value in the current market. I'm no expert on pre-code horror, but a quick look at completed and sold ebay listings shows one just a month or two ago for a non-graded copy listed as a 4.5, and that went for almost $1700. I'd think a graded 5.0 with the file copy designation would likely exceed that. Okay, admittedly I haven't checked on it a while. It was not my intention to under-sell it. You know old Phil is not one to resist a humble-brag.  That's very encouraging information, Crimebuster. I've got $50 invested in the thing and no real emotional attachment. Maybe I'll list it this Spring and take a trip to Key West.  |
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Post by Confessor on Feb 26, 2017 6:18:50 GMT -5
A couple of over-priced comics from Marvel's old Star Wars run would be #42 and the final issue #107. The former sells for many times the price of the surrounding issues because it's supposedly the first comic book appearance of Boba Fett and the latter sells for an inflated price because it's the "scarce" final issue.
Thing is, #42 isn't the first comic appearance of Boba Fett at all: that would be the paperback-sized Marvel Comics Illustrated Version of The Empire Strikes Back, which was on sale months before issue #42 came out. As for issue #107, that really isn't all that scarce: SW was not cancelled due to poor sales -- it was still selling around 100,000 copies a month right til the end, which was the same amount as many second tier superhero titles of the era.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 12:22:02 GMT -5
Here's an interesting one. Chamber of Chills #19 from Harvey Publications. I bought this at a local con in 1997 for $20 because I like Lee Elias, Harvey, and pre-Code horror. Last year I had it graded? Anyway, this is a book that, when offered, fetches prices in the $1000 range, but not with comic book collectors. It's a hit with fans of the band The Misfits, who used the image for the sleeve to their single Die, Die My Darling. Now, I don't know anything about The Misfits. They sound like some cacophonous outfit that Dan B. might enjoy, but there you have it. Apart from the musical (?) connection, it's a fairly run-of-the-mill offering from the era. Admittedly a terrific cover, though. Don'cha think? It's a great cover, comic book and 7" single. I used to listen to The Misfits, they were ok. Their singer Glenn Danzig was a big comic book fan though and in the 90's he started up his own range of horror/erotic comics... Verotik. All of the titles were aimed at an adult audience though. (I am surprised that none of those have turned up in the Sexy Comic Covers thread, as Verotik covers usually feature scantily clad women... along with Demons and Devils of course!) |
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Post by Farrar on Feb 27, 2017 16:58:55 GMT -5
I've always argued that Silver Surfer #4 is a rip-off, the outrageous price attributed to a "low print run" that would have still numbered in the hundreds of thousands. John Buscema's art in that issue has attained near-legendary status. Heck, that iconic cover and famous opening splash could probably fetch big bucks on their own. |
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 27, 2017 17:05:39 GMT -5
As I mentioned in the Hulk #181 thread, ASM #300 is both wildly overrated and overpriced. Venom has a two page appearance in #299, including a full splash page, so #300 isn't his first appearance, and he's not on the cover of it either. Plus, I personally can't stand Venom, so I find it to be pretty ridiculous anyway. There's just no good reason for #300 to be so expensive.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Feb 27, 2017 17:33:33 GMT -5
I know everything in the 90s was Venom/symbiote overload but I find if you just stick to the main ASM story line, you can limit the overusage and actually enjoy the character. I feel the writing in the Max Carnage really is what let him down as they started to explore a neat idea of Venom doing "good". Plus, as far as looks...I think it is a great look. Those early McFarlane issues and the 90s animated Spidey made Venom great for me as a child.
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