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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 29, 2017 12:11:38 GMT -5
Trailer 2 is online!
Say, is the chameleon-like little critter a grumpy transmutator from Bluxte??? If so, I am overjoyed!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 13:45:17 GMT -5
Looks awesome.
And makes me a little sad, since this is probably the closest we'll get to seeing The Fifth Element sequel.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 30, 2017 16:02:20 GMT -5
I really need to read some of the comic.
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Valerian
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Post by Warmonger on Mar 30, 2017 17:51:59 GMT -5
Not familiar with this at all but it looks fun.
John Carter-ish (still don't get why that movie was panned by critics)
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 30, 2017 23:22:39 GMT -5
I really need to read some of the comic. And a delightful experience it is! |
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 30, 2017 23:27:06 GMT -5
Not familiar with this at all but it looks fun. John Carter-ish (still don't get why that movie was panned by critics) Valerian is an agent of the Galaxity, an intergalactice empire, who travels time and space. Laureline was a peasant woman from 11th Century France, who accompanied Valerian back to the future and also became a spacio-temporal agent. Valerian is a bit impulsive, while Laureline is more level headed and tends to be more straight forward. The series is great adventure; but, it is also filled with metaphors of contemporary times. Ecology and more primitive societies, living in harmony with nature vs technology and urbanized environments area major theme. Humor is abundant, both visual and character-driven. Imagination is immense. Mezieres fills the albums with creatures that makes both the Henson people and Lucasfilm look limited. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 31, 2017 9:58:06 GMT -5
I really need to read some of the comic. You do!!! It's really a great SF series! It clearly had some visual influence on Star Wars, too. I'm not sure that it was a case of general plagiarism (as the authors claim) so much as getting inspiration from common classic sources, but I'm certain Valérian did have a direct influence on the films. (It did on my own comics too, but I acknowledged that on the dedication page!  )  As codystarbuck so saliently points out, humour is a great part of what makes Valérian so enjoyable. It's like SF written by Mark Twain. |
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Post by Confessor on Mar 31, 2017 10:38:18 GMT -5
As codystarbuck so saliently points out, humour is a great part of what makes Valérian so enjoyable. It's like SF written by Mark Twain. I've had the first two volumes sat in my "saved for later" list on amazon for a while now, but so far haven't pulled the trigger. I read somewhere that the early volumes aren't the best and are somewhat dated nowadays, having been written and drawn in the late '60s. Would you agree with this? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 10:55:35 GMT -5
Looks like a cross between Avatar and Star Wars with some elements that I'm not quite keen to it. I'm not an Avatar fan because it was too much of a visual impact - but it's has some Star Wars appeal that I can relate to. Looks intriguing, and it's also have some little bit of The Last Starfighter - a movie made in 1984 that I've liked.
In short, when I watch that clip - It's a combination of Avatar, Star Wars, and The Last Starfighter all rolled into one!
Sold.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 31, 2017 11:25:40 GMT -5
As codystarbuck so saliently points out, humour is a great part of what makes Valérian so enjoyable. It's like SF written by Mark Twain. I've had the first two volumes sat in my "saved for later" list on amazon for a while now, but so far haven't pulled the trigger. I read somewhere that the early volumes aren't the best and are somewhat dated nowadays, having been written and drawn in the late '60s. Would you agree with this? Yes and no. The first two adventures ( Bad dreams and the city of shifting waters) are fun , but the series hasn't found its "voice" yet; they're like Tintin in America and Cigars of the Pharaoh. But the following book, empire of a thousand planets, is one of my favourite comics of all time. Welcome to Alfolol, the fourth book, is already showing the series' interest in more than just high adventure; it is a brutal condemnation of mankind's greed and its treatment of both the ecosystem and foreign cultures. Heady stuff for the kids who were the targets of those early publications. I could understand someone being less than enthused by the very first book or thinking the second one is just all right, but after that you probably can't go wrong with any of the titles. Be aware, though, that starting with Métro Chêtelet, the books are no longer stand-alones; they are involved in longer storylines. |
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Post by Confessor on Mar 31, 2017 11:38:23 GMT -5
I've had the first two volumes sat in my "saved for later" list on amazon for a while now, but so far haven't pulled the trigger. I read somewhere that the early volumes aren't the best and are somewhat dated nowadays, having been written and drawn in the late '60s. Would you agree with this? Yes and no. The first two adventures ( Bad dreams and the city of shifting waters) are fun , but the series hasn't found its "voice" yet; they're like Tintin in America and Cigars of the Pharaoh. But the following book, empire of a thousand planets, is one of my favourite comics of all time. Welcome to Alfolol, the fourth book, is already showing the series' interest in more than just high adventure; it is a brutal condemnation of mankind's greed and its treatment of both the ecosystem and foreign cultures. Heady stuff for the kids who were the targets of those early publications. I could understand someone being less than enthused by the very first book or thinking the second one is just all right, but after that you probably can't go wrong with any of the titles. Be aware, though, that starting with Métro Chêtelet, the books are no longer stand-alones; they are involved in longer storylines. Right, so I really need to read the first four books to really get a feel for the series at its best then? Good to know. Thanks. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 31, 2017 12:03:18 GMT -5
Yes and no. The first two adventures ( Bad dreams and the city of shifting waters) are fun , but the series hasn't found its "voice" yet; they're like Tintin in America and Cigars of the Pharaoh. But the following book, empire of a thousand planets, is one of my favourite comics of all time. Welcome to Alfolol, the fourth book, is already showing the series' interest in more than just high adventure; it is a brutal condemnation of mankind's greed and its treatment of both the ecosystem and foreign cultures. Heady stuff for the kids who were the targets of those early publications. I could understand someone being less than enthused by the very first book or thinking the second one is just all right, but after that you probably can't go wrong with any of the titles. Be aware, though, that starting with Métro Chêtelet, the books are no longer stand-alones; they are involved in longer storylines. Right, so I really need to read the first four books to really get a feel for the series at its best then? Good to know. Thanks. Actually, I wouldn't bother with Bad dreams. It wasn't even published in book form for the longest time in Europe; just like Tintin in the Congo, it was dropped and the Valérian series "officially" started with The city of shifting waters. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 31, 2017 12:08:45 GMT -5
Looks like a cross between Avatar and Star Wars with some elements that I'm not quite keen to it. I'm not an Avatar fan because it was too much of a visual impact - but it's has some Star Wars appeal that I can relate to. Looks intriguing, and it's also have some little bit of The Last Starfighter - a movie made in 1984 that I've liked. In short, when I watch that clip - It's a combination of Avatar, Star Wars, and The Last Starfighter all rolled into one! Sold. Good news It's also noteworthy that Valérian predates both Star Wars and Avatar by at least one decade, and that another movie ( The fifth element) was set in a universe very, very, very much alike that of Valérian. I just hope that Besson does as good a job with this one! It's based on one of the books, ambassador of the shadows, so at least it won't be a rehash of some old Hollywood recipe. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 31, 2017 12:20:55 GMT -5
The City of Shifting Waters is available for free from Amazon for the Kindle. So I downloaded it. When I will actually get too it...is another issue.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 31, 2017 12:31:46 GMT -5
Right, so I really need to read the first four books to really get a feel for the series at its best then? Good to know. Thanks. Actually, I wouldn't bother with Bad dreams. It wasn't even published in book form for the longest time in Europe; just like Tintin in the Congo, it was dropped and the Valérian series "officially" started with The city of shifting waters. You don't think I'll miss the first book when reading The City of Shifting Waters? I guess I can always pick it up later if I like the series. |
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