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Post by Crimebuster on Apr 4, 2017 12:36:44 GMT -5
The Famous Authors and the Comics They Should Have Written thread made me think of all the famous authors who have worked in comics over the decades. In particular, someone brought up the idea of Gloria Steinem writing Wonder Woman. While she never wrote Wonder Woman, she was indirectly responsible for prematurely cutting short what would have been a truly revolutionary storyline by world famous sci-fi author Samuel R. Delany, a member of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Hall of Fame, a Science Fiction Grand Master, and winner of 4 Nebula and 2 Hugo awards. Delany was brought in to write Wonder Woman by Denny O'Neil at the end of the Mod Wonder Woman era. He wrote just one issue, #203. It's labeled on the cover as a "special women's lib" issue, something gleefully undermined by the editors by giving it a t+a bondage cover. The story inside is really eye opening, as Delany is dealing with issues likely way over the head of many of the title's readers - namely, the story sets up a discussion about divisions within the feminist movement between white liberal activists and working class women of color. This was just supposed to be the first part of a six-part arc where Diana gets involved in the women's lib movement, culminating in a story where she defends an abortion clinic from male attackers. Mind you, this was in 1972, before Roe v. Wade made abortion legal. Needless to say, certain powers that be at DC weren't entirely thrilled with this storyline. And that's when Gloria Steinem apparently visited DC as part of preparation for the Wonder Woman collection she was writing the introduction for as part of a publishing deal with Ms. Magazine. While at DC, she complained about the mod era, feeling that Wonder Woman had been stripped of her power and authority. DC jumped at this as an excuse to kill Delany's storyline. They canceled the rest, kicked him off the book, and brought back Robert Kanigher, who was responsible for the mindless pap the book had been doing for years before the mod era. They were then able to claim they were being progressive by bringing back the powered Wonder Woman at Steinem's request, while Steinem was able to claim a victory as well. And both of these PR "victories" for feminism came at the expense of what would have been the first truly feminist mainstream comic ever. It's infuriating. So... what other big name writers have worked in comics?
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 4, 2017 12:38:29 GMT -5
The Famous Authors and the Comics They Should Have Written thread made me think of all the famous authors who have worked in comics over the decades. In particular, someone brought up the idea of Gloria Steinem writing Wonder Woman. While she never wrote Wonder Woman, she was indirectly responsible for prematurely cutting short what would have been a truly revolutionary storyline by world famous sci-fi author Samuel R. Delany, a member of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Hall of Fame, a Science Fiction Grand Master, and winner of 4 Nebula and 2 Hugo awards. Delany was brought in to write Wonder Woman by Denny O'Neil at the end of the Mod Wonder Woman era. He wrote just one issue, #203. It's labeled on the cover as a "special women's lib" issue, something gleefully undermined by the editors by giving it a t+a bondage cover. The story inside is really eye opening, as Delany is dealing with issues likely way over the head of many of the title's readers - namely, the story sets up a discussion about divisions within the feminist movement between white liberal activists and working class women of color. This was just supposed to be the first part of a six-part arc where Diana gets involved in the women's lib movement, culminating in a story where she defends an abortion clinic from male attackers. Mind you, this was in 1972, before Roe v. Wade made abortion legal. Needless to say, certain powers that be at DC weren't entirely thrilled with this storyline. And that's when Gloria Steinem apparently visited DC as part of preparation for the Wonder Woman collection she was writing the introduction for as part of a publishing deal with Ms. Magazine. While at DC, she complained about the mod era, feeling that Wonder Woman had been stripped of her power and authority. DC jumped at this as an excuse to kill Delany's storyline. They canceled the rest, kicked him off the book, and brought back Robert Kanigher, who was responsible for the mindless pap the book had been doing for years before the mod era. They were then able to claim they were being progressive by bringing back the powered Wonder Woman at Steinem's request, while Steinem was able to claim a victory as well. And both of these PR "victories" for feminism came at the expense of what would have been the first truly feminist mainstream comic ever. It's infuriating. So... what other big name writers have worked in comics? Never knew the full story here, CB. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 4, 2017 12:51:36 GMT -5
Allan Brennert wrote several excellent Batman stories, and did he also do the poignant Deadman-Supergirl post-Crisis story, now that I think of it?
Harlan Ellison wrote a couple, didn't he? And maybe Stephen King?
How about Michael Chabon? Did he write some of the Escapist comic stories?
Max Allan Collins, for sure. Mickey Spillane, too, so they say.
Back in the day, Ed Hamilton and Gardner Fox, as well as David Vern Reed (nee Levine) had all been well known as sf writers of note before and during their time at DC Comics.
Oh, and Robert Louis Stevenson, Emily Bronte, Hawthorne, Stephen Crane and a few others wrote for the Gilberton Company.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 13:01:11 GMT -5
Stephen King's son Joe Hill has written a lot of prose, but might be an even better comic book writer.
While I dig his short stories, I love Locke & Key even more.
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Post by Crimebuster on Apr 4, 2017 13:16:49 GMT -5
Mickey Spillane, too, so they say. Oh yeah, this is a good one. He apparently wrote for a lot of major titles during the Golden Age, including Captain America and Captain Marvel.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 4, 2017 13:25:32 GMT -5
Mickey Spillane, too, so they say. Oh yeah, this is a good one. He apparently wrote for a lot of major titles during the Golden Age, including Captain America and Captain Marvel. Right. I've always heard that (and some DC books as well), but not sure if it's ever been verified.
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Post by MDG on Apr 4, 2017 13:34:39 GMT -5
Joe Lansdale's written a bunch of comics.
The tough question is have any non-genre authors written comics?
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Post by Crimebuster on Apr 4, 2017 13:38:11 GMT -5
Oh yeah, this is a good one. He apparently wrote for a lot of major titles during the Golden Age, including Captain America and Captain Marvel. Right. I've always heard that (and some DC books as well), but not sure if it's ever been verified. I think so, at least... it's my understanding that in addition to the comic book stories he apparently wrote, he was also doing those 2 page text stories for comics, and those had a byline. Many of them were collected in a book called Primal Spillane a few years ago. So that part at least has been verified. I don't know if there's a bibliography of the comic stories he wrote, though, since those were uncredited at the time.
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Post by Crimebuster on Apr 4, 2017 13:40:29 GMT -5
Science Fiction legend Alfred Bester wrote comics for several years, and created both Solomon Grundy and the best known version of Green Lantern's oath.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 4, 2017 13:40:40 GMT -5
Oh yeah, this is a good one. He apparently wrote for a lot of major titles during the Golden Age, including Captain America and Captain Marvel. Right. I've always heard that (and some DC books as well), but not sure if it's ever been verified. He definitely worked for Timely and for Goodman's magazines. He also definitely worked for Funnies, Inc. which packaged comics for various publishers. The work for Fawcett and DC appears to be one of those things that kept being repeated until it became known "fact." But nobody can point to any actual stories he wrote for them.
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Post by MWGallaher on Apr 4, 2017 13:52:37 GMT -5
Joe Lansdale's written a bunch of comics. The tough question is have any non-genre authors written comics? Best-selling novelist Jodi Picoult wrote five issues of Wonder Woman (#6-10) in 2007. However, given that her issues were heavily tied into DC's "Amazons Attack" miniseries, I have to conclude that the editors pretty much fed her the plot. What a huge wasted opportunity--get a successful "real author" with a huge female following and put her into an event-driven, editorially-dictated story that curious new readers would be unlikely to appreciate.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 4, 2017 13:54:19 GMT -5
Harlan Ellison wrote a couple, didn't he? And maybe Stephen King? Ellison did Detective Comics #567 and King wrote the introduction for Batman #400. What was the Gilberton Company? I'd love to know more about this.
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Post by String on Apr 4, 2017 13:55:45 GMT -5
Harlan Ellison wrote DD #208-209. A great suspenseful two-parter that's often over-looked and underappreciated since it's after Miller and usually lumped into O'Neill's run.
Would you count Brad Meltzer?
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Post by shaxper on Apr 4, 2017 13:56:21 GMT -5
Joe Lansdale's written a bunch of comics. The tough question is have any non-genre authors written comics? Best-selling novelist Jodi Picoult wrote five issues of Wonder Woman (#6-10) in 2007. However, given that her issues were heavily tied into DC's "Amazons Attack" miniseries, I have to conclude that the editors pretty much fed her the plot. What a huge wasted opportunity--get a successful "real author" with a huge female following and put her into an event-driven, editorially-dictated story that curious new readers would be unlikely to appreciate. I had a real problem with DC's trend of hiring "real" authors to write comics at the time, as the implicit assumption appeared to be that comic writers weren't real authors and so a novelist could inevitably do it better. Brad Meltzer...sheesh. And where does Peter David fall in this thread, as he built a career in both comics and fiction at around the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 14:00:43 GMT -5
Harlan Ellison wrote a couple, didn't he? And maybe Stephen King? Ellison did Detective Comics #567 and King wrote the introduction for Batman #400. What was the Gilberton Company? I'd love to know more about this. Gilberton was the publisher of Classics Illustrated.
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