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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 3, 2017 20:39:43 GMT -5
I agree that Marvel lacks a prominent, flagship female character like DC's Wonder Woman, but to me they got off on the wrong foot with Carol Danvers right from the start by making her superhero identity too derivative of Captain Marvel: the costume, the name, the powers. And they didn't really come up with a very compelling origin for her - somehow she was given Kree powers or something? Doesn't really capture the imagination. To me, they keep making the same mistake over and over, trying to come up with a strong female lead by making Jane Foster the new Thor, and so on. Never going to work. The current Captain Marvel, or whatever she's called now, might be better known to fans than Mar-Vell, after all these years, but that doesn't seem to have made her the kind of "A-level" character they're looking for. Again, Marvel and it's fanbase act like Marvel doesn't have an already extensive backlog of compelling female characters. I don't particularly care for The Hulk, but I did find his cousin Jennifer/She-Hulk interesting beyond just the surface level of sexual attraction. She's a lawyer having to deal with her own issues as a green skinned, radioactive super-being who's impossibly powerful. Give me that over a really bland riff on Hal Jordan any day But then, guess what happened? Marvel put her in a coma because she got caught up in the stray missile fire of War Machine during Civil War II. Surely that will teach the readers not to have completely unnecessary attachments to comic book characters after decades of character development
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 3, 2017 21:51:14 GMT -5
I agree that Marvel lacks a prominent, flagship female character like DC's Wonder Woman, but to me they got off on the wrong foot with Carol Danvers right from the start by making her superhero identity too derivative of Captain Marvel: the costume, the name, the powers. And they didn't really come up with a very compelling origin for her - somehow she was given Kree powers or something? Doesn't really capture the imagination. To me, they keep making the same mistake over and over, trying to come up with a strong female lead by making Jane Foster the new Thor, and so on. Never going to work. The current Captain Marvel, or whatever she's called now, might be better known to fans than Mar-Vell, after all these years, but that doesn't seem to have made her the kind of "A-level" character they're looking for. Again, Marvel and it's fanbase act like Marvel doesn't have an already extensive backlog of compelling female characters. I don't particularly care for The Hulk, but I did find his cousin Jennifer/She-Hulk interesting beyond just the surface level of sexual attraction. She's a lawyer having to deal with her own issues as a green skinned, radioactive super-being who's impossibly powerful. Give me that over a really bland riff on Hal Jordan any day But then, guess what happened? Marvel put her in a coma because she got caught up in the stray missile fire of War Machine during Civil War II. Surely that will teach the readers not to have completely unnecessary attachments to comic book characters after decades of character developmentWe can only hope that's the result.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 3, 2017 22:28:16 GMT -5
Again, Marvel and it's fanbase act like Marvel doesn't have an already extensive backlog of compelling female characters. I don't particularly care for The Hulk, but I did find his cousin Jennifer/She-Hulk interesting beyond just the surface level of sexual attraction. She's a lawyer having to deal with her own issues as a green skinned, radioactive super-being who's impossibly powerful. Give me that over a really bland riff on Hal Jordan any day But then, guess what happened? Marvel put her in a coma because she got caught up in the stray missile fire of War Machine during Civil War II. Surely that will teach the readers not to have completely unnecessary attachments to comic book characters after decades of character developmentWe can only hope that's the result. It just reminds me of the audio commentary for the Simpsons episode "The Principal & The Pauper" where one of the writers just thought it was utterly bizarre that millions of people had an attachment to Seymour Skinner/Armin Tamzarian after hundreds of episodes and were outraged that it was just turned into nothing but one long, drawn out farce
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 11, 2017 13:49:03 GMT -5
Surely that will teach the readers not to have completely unnecessary attachments to comic book characters after decades of character development Such attachment used to make comics much more thrilling, but the return of Jean Grey and the creation of X-Factor cured me of it.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 11, 2017 21:43:32 GMT -5
Surely that will teach the readers not to have completely unnecessary attachments to comic book characters after decades of character development Such attachment used to make comics much more thrilling, but the return of Jean Grey and the creation of X-Factor cured me of it. X-Factor just kind of baffled me as a concept. Yeah, it was great in theory that the legacy characters of the X-Men were given their own title, but the original pre-relaunch book is little more than a footnote in the history of the franchise. New Mutants seemed like a good rekindling of the flame of what X-Men set out to be, X-Factor just didn't Liked what David did with the series, even if it did seem like New Mutants/X-Force 2.0, but really can't say much else for X-Factor as a whole
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