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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 11, 2017 0:32:28 GMT -5
i hope that antifa-rejects develop a sense of humour, since it's funny as hell to see their anglo-upper-middleclass-benefitting-from-white-privelege members railing against racism at protests, then being confronted by non white muslims and struggling-hard-to-make-ends-meet black/african americans.
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 11, 2017 1:22:25 GMT -5
We used to call this ambition, dammit!  careful, that word is as verboten to sjw's as is 'talent'.  luckily 'talent' is a welcome, revered word in the initial politically-correct circles. 'her talent is equal to her male counterparts, and supersedes that of her hack-male competitors'. |
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Post by DanBintheUnderworld on Jul 11, 2017 9:34:08 GMT -5
Thought about this thread last night while surfing YouTube & discovering that the all-out ban on Michelle Shocked for homophobic remarks made 4-odd years remains in effect. Meanwhile, songs by the avowedly -- hell, quintessentially -- white power skinhead band Skrewdriver can be posted & watched all day long. Have to admit that I'm a bit confused about the apparent ... I dunno if "double standard" is the correct term, but close enough.
(For the record, if it were up to me neither artist would be banned. In an ideal world, I would be able to play at least "Anchorage" & "Come a Long Way" by Shocked whenever I want to. And before they went full-on Nazi, Skrewdriver actually came up with at least 3 great punk anthems in "Government Action," "You're So Dumb" & "Anti-Social.")
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Post by badwolf on Jul 11, 2017 9:35:42 GMT -5
Michelle Shocked is banned from YouTube? She herself and any content of her as well??
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Post by DanBintheUnderworld on Jul 11, 2017 9:38:26 GMT -5
Except when she's performing with other artists (Indigo Girls, for instance), yes. That's been the case ever since her on-stage meltdown back in 2013.
Cover versions of her songs are permitted, but that's it.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 11, 2017 9:44:34 GMT -5
Thought about this thread last night while surfing YouTube & discovering that the all-out ban on Michelle Shocked for homophobic remarks made 4-odd years remains in effect. Meanwhile, songs by the avowedly -- hell, quintessentially -- white power skinhead band Skrewdriver can be posted & watched all day long. Have to admit that I'm a bit confused about the apparent ... I dunno if "double standard" is the correct term, but close enough. (For the record, if it were up to me neither artist would be banned. In an ideal world, I would be able to play at least "Anchorage" & "Come a Long Way" by Shocked whenever I want to. And before they went full-on Nazi, Skrewdriver actually came up with at least 3 great punk anthems in "Government Action," "You're So Dumb" & "Anti-Social.") Having never heard of the lady I just looked up her Wikipedia page... How can she be described as homophobic??? Has Youtube simply gone as flaccid as a cowardice soufflé when some people protested against Shocked? |
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Post by DanBintheUnderworld on Jul 11, 2017 9:55:23 GMT -5
The perceived problem stems from what appear to be her confused attempts to reconcile homosexuality with the brand of evangelical Christianity she embraced some years ago; her own past apparent same-sex romantic activities were a complicating factor.
The problem started here (from the Wikipedia profile) --
On March 17, 2013, Shocked made an impromptu speech against same-sex marriage during a concert at Yoshi's nightclub in San Francisco, which led some audience members to leave in protest and the club's management to end the show. All venues eventually cancelled scheduled performances of her "Roadworks Tour" in response to reports of Shocked's remarks. In a March 20, 2013, email to the news media, Shocked apologized, saying that her comments had been misinterpreted, and that she was not describing her own opinions about homosexuality, but rather those of some Christians. An audio recording of the performance was reported as contradicting Shocked's post-performance explanation.
So that's ... not great. But hell, I just checked, & YouTube has no problem posting Ted Nugent's crap. WTF?
I'm not sure Shocked's remarks were any more substantive, really, than those made by the likes of Eric Clapton & Elvis Costello (racism) or David Bowie (fascism) in the '70s.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 11, 2017 10:04:42 GMT -5
The perceived problem stems from what appear to be her confused attempts to reconcile homosexuality with the brand of evangelical Christianity she embraced some years ago; her own past apparent same-sex romantic activities were a complicating factor. The problem started here (from the Wikipedia profile) -- On March 17, 2013, Shocked made an impromptu speech against same-sex marriage during a concert at Yoshi's nightclub in San Francisco, which led some audience members to leave in protest and the club's management to end the show. All venues eventually cancelled scheduled performances of her "Roadworks Tour" in response to reports of Shocked's remarks. In a March 20, 2013, email to the news media, Shocked apologized, saying that her comments had been misinterpreted, and that she was not describing her own opinions about homosexuality, but rather those of some Christians. An audio recording of the performance was reported as contradicting Shocked's post-performance explanation.So that's ... not great. But hell, I just checked, & YouTube has no problem posting Ted Nugent's crap. WTF? Whether she's really against same-sex marriage, was misquoted, or was reporting what other people say does not strike me as particularly damning... Isn't everyone entitled to their opinion? As you say, Youtube is shock full of videos where people explain how Hell's gate are wide open to incinerate gays, atheists, Moslems, Christians, communists, stamp collectors and what have you. So many songs on Youtube call women b***, so many videos preach hatred. But somehow one woman of ambivalent sexuality cannot give her opinion on gay marriage. You're being polite calling it a double standard; even "hypocrisy" hardly does it justice. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 11, 2017 10:28:22 GMT -5
So, as thwhtguardian points out, you've got parents and administrators catering to kids. The only power the kids have is to be pains in the ass. So again, it's the adults fault. The adults I blame aren't the parents nor even the teachers, but the theorists at the department of education (or ministry of education, de pending on one's country) who try to implement social engineering grand strategies and personal psychological development programmes instead of letting teachers do their job. So, so many people in those offices have never taught a class. They're like Catholic priests talking about St. Thomas Aquinas when providing marriage counselling. Last year in my son's 4th grade they had a program where fathers could come in for a half a day and spend time with their children/teachers. By the time I would get there, it was lunch then recess and my son's teacher (25 plus years teaching) said that administration not understanding the consequences of their decisions and how they make teacher's jobs difficult to preform was the biggest problem she would have when wanting to teacher her class. Because they are politicians not educators. The second worst obstacle she said was a influx of younger gals (she specifically said female) that are "teaching" just for a paycheck. So, so many people in those offices have never taught a class. They're like Catholic priests talking about St. Thomas Aquinas when providing marriage counselling. like so many virgins penning fan-fiction-cap-material, then due to 'sjw-enabling', feel free to describe their 'work' as 'erotic fiction' on par/equivalent to Anne Rice's erotic novels. which had an EDITOR. and publication standards. unlike fan-fappage. and fan-fappage is okay; in its own context due to its own context. but it's NEVER 'a novel on par with Anne Rice's works'. and never will be. There's literal erotica of sexual encounters with carnivorous dinosaurs. Also an in general question to anyone interested in answering. Is there a general consensus on the birth dates/age of some of the post baby boomers as what generation people are considered a part of? |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 11, 2017 10:33:49 GMT -5
Also an in general question to anyone interested in answering. Is there a general consensus on the birth dates/age of some of the post baby boomers as what generation people are considered a part of? No hard consensus, I would say, although each generation seems to cover about 20 years starting with the end of WWII. The actual dates vary frequently, however. People of my generation used to complain about how the baby boomers had taken all the cushy jobs and left us in the lurch, but a few decades later we were considered boomers too. Man, who are we supposed to blame, now??? |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 11, 2017 10:50:31 GMT -5
Also an in general question to anyone interested in answering. Is there a general consensus on the birth dates/age of some of the post baby boomers as what generation people are considered a part of? No hard consensus, I would say, although each generation seems to cover about 20 years starting with the end of WWII. The actual dates vary frequently, however. People of my generation used to complain about how the baby boomers had taken all the cushy jobs and left us in the lurch, but a few decades later we were considered boomers too. Man, who are we supposed to blame, now??? That's kind of what promoted my question. I always thought that born in 1977 I was Gen X. And felt that was the consensus through most of my life with people in my age group and those older. Now all of a sudden my age group is considered Millennials, a term of which I've only heard of recently. Since I figured Gen Y was next, but have only seen that used as a alternative for Millennials. It's all very confusing. There's always parents to fall back on to blame? ;-) |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 11, 2017 11:01:27 GMT -5
like so many virgins penning fan-fiction-cap-material, then due to 'sjw-enabling', feel free to describe their 'work' as 'erotic fiction' on par/equivalent to Anne Rice's erotic novels. which had an EDITOR. and publication standards. unlike fan-fappage. and fan-fappage is okay; in its own context due to its own context. but it's NEVER 'a novel on par with Anne Rice's works'. and never will be. . but i doubt published by companies as well-heeled/similar to those which publiced Rice. |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 11, 2017 11:06:19 GMT -5
when gen x was coined, it was Cobain's generation, late 60's to late 70's kids of boomers and war-babies (those born duriing WW2).
the weird for me is Gaiman's generation, which is between a boomer and gen x.
the first time I heard a media-person/celeb describe themselves as gen y was around 2004, and they'd be 37 years old today.
he was talentless hack radio ham.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 11, 2017 11:09:15 GMT -5
There's literal erotica of sexual encounters with carnivorous dinosaurs. but i doubt published by companies as well-heeled/similar to those which publiced Rice. If I remember right it was just something my wife shared from Facebook, and as best I can remember it was just on the internet or self published. Which I guess isn't hard to do. But it just stuck out in my mind with the mention of "erotica" as to how weird this world I am starting to not want to live in anymore is getting. |
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 11, 2017 12:26:42 GMT -5
the people setting policy are doing it in response to parents, and parents are reacting to their kids. Actually, I think a lot of parents are reacting to their memories of their own childhoods. |
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