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Post by shaxper on Oct 14, 2014 21:20:03 GMT -5
(1.5 hours early. Sue me. I'm too excited...) The CCF Long Halloween: Week 3
Place your #3 choice here, along with a detailed description! Suggested formatStory Title: Creative Team: From: Publication Year: Explanation of choice:
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Post by shaxper on Oct 14, 2014 21:20:32 GMT -5
shaxper's #3: “Inherit the Howling Night!”writer: Bob Haney pencils: Art Saaf inks: Nick Cardy From: Teen Titans (1966) #43 Publication Year: 1973 Explanation: It starts like any good nightmare. No explanations, no setup, no hows and whys; you're just there, on a desolate hill, an old man pleading with all his heart for you to save his young grandson, currently being tossed around like a rag doll by a wild assortment of demons atop the adjacent farmhouse. Art Saaf keeps the momentum climbing from moment number one; the panels, dynamic perspectives, and exaggerated moments keeping you on the edge of your adrenaline-hammered seat while those trusty heroes, the Teen Titans, scramble desperately to make their way through that farmhouse and bring that boy to safety. There are no jokes, no youthful banter, nor any other such conventional trappings to be had here; no sense of the familiar. Your favorite heroes are running through a nightmare, and even though the past few issues have all placed these characters in the now popular horror genre in an effort to boost sales, something about the pairing is still incredibly jarring here, and that sense of discomfort works to the story's advantage. The boy is rescued after an intense five page ordeal, but the breather is used to provide some much needed exposition, and both its tone and all it foreshadows hardly allow this pause to feel like a break. It's not hard to guess where this story is leading – how the young boy, years earlier, came down with an unexpected fever, appeared to die, and was then well and happy in his crib again, this time accompanied by the presence of demons. We suspect, but no...it can't be THAT. There's no way a comics code approved superhero comic—and especially not the Teen Titans-- are going in that direction. But they are. And they do. And it's damn powerful. The Teen Titans had failed once before, but harder and more unexpected still is a situation in which they did everything right, made no blunders, and still failed to save the life of a young boy who had actually died years earlier. The thing they had been desperately scurrying to save for fifteen pages is no more than a changeling – a being that the forlorn grandfather, the very impetus behind this surreal rescue operation, must finally kill with his own shotgun. A sense of pure hopelessness pervades in that final panel. The Titans have met the horror genre, and the horror genre has proven more powerful than their sunny dispositions and youthful idealism could handle. That this ended up being the final issue of the run was, of course, inadvertent, but years later, Marv Wolfman would attempt to show that the final moments of this story, the terrible humility in the face of failure, caused the team to disband until their 1976 revival (see Secret Origins Annual #3). In the end, while the story is exceptionally well plotted, and the art is enthralling, the true power comes from Haney's brazenness, taking one of the safest, most conventional superhero franchises of the time and shocking us with a brutally cruel ending that shouldn't have been possible in their pages.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 1:14:25 GMT -5
Week 3... Dr. Strange and Dr. Doom: Triumph and Torment 1989 Roger Stern, Mike Mignola, and Mark Badger Horror tales often revolve around obsession and single-mindedness, as man is driven by an obsession so deeply rooted he must seek to achieve it no matter what the cost. Shelly's Frankenstein was such a man. Lovecraft's Professor Angell in The Call of Cthullhu is another. Victor Von Doom is also such a man, and it is his single-minded obsession to save his mother's soul from Hell that drives him and this story. It is a tale of Faustian bargains, betrayals, folly, and sacrifice. A tale of loss and obsession, of succumbing to weakness and temptation, of manipulation and deception, and on the surface seems to be one of redemption as Hell itself is breached and the hordes of Hades and Mephisto, their lord and master, must are faced head on. But in the end it is a tale of damnation and losing that which matters most even though the goal is achieved as a Pyrrhic victory at best. Victor Von Doom lost his mother as a child, lost his mother's love because of her Faustian bargain and it defined his life. HE was driven to find a means to restore it, to free his mother's soul from Hell so he could once again know her love. It drove him to master sorcery. It drive him to science. It drove him to the accident which disfigured him and made him Doom. It drove him to the Aged Ghengis where he found his destiny and his new face. It drive him to the test of the Vishanti and drove him to the bargain and boon of Strange. It drove his every action and defined who he is. Whatever he does, it can never be enough to regain her love. And in the end, he achieves his goal and frees her from Hell, but only at the cost of her love for all eternity. He will never have that which he truly sought, and he has damned himself. He has created a Hell of his own making far worse than anything he encountered in Mephisto's realm, and for him, because of that which drove him, there can be no redemption, his obsession destroyed the very thing he had single-mindedly pursued all his life. He is his own monster, his own tormentor, and worse he did it all willingly. That is the horror that is Doom's existence, and the terror he faces every day-he lost his mother's love-she made the bargain for his sake, none other, and her love for him was destroyed by his hand, and no other...and now he rots in this Hell of his own construction. The scared little boy driven by his nightmares has constructed a nightmare world for himself that can never end. -M
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Post by shaxper on Oct 15, 2014 4:37:29 GMT -5
I haven't read Triumph and Torment since it first came out (I have no idea why it's no longer in my collection), but I remember it having quite an impact upon me. Excellent choice.
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Post by DubipR on Oct 15, 2014 8:50:58 GMT -5
DUBIPR'S #3: THE MARQUIS
Writer/Artist: Guy Davis Published: Oni Press Year: 2000-2003
Psychological horror has been a staple in horror comics but Guy Davis has taken that sub-genre and went one step beyond in two glorious miniseries. The setting resembles a fictional France, circa mid-18th Century and Vol de Galle is a having a crisis of faith. He's an inquisitor for the church and keeper of the faith, but he has the ability of seeing demons. These demons are infiltrating all of society and de Galle dons the nom de guiere of The Marquis. de Galle's faith is tested as he must vanquish the demons to keep the peace in his beloved city and to keep his heart pure in honoring his religion. Davis touches on personal and religious issues that are still relevant in today's news.
What also makes this book so great is Davis' artwork. Going black and white was the best choice, although he's done some pages in color. The black and white gives it a more chilling tone. Choosing that particular era also enhances the creepiness and eeriness of the comic. The outlandish costume of the Marquis, the horrific demons that are outstanding and so grotesque, it's just so creepy!
I highly recommend picking up THE MARQUIS: DANSE MACABRE collection
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 10:27:05 GMT -5
No. 3. "Fiends from the Crypt"Cheating here a bit, because most of this is taken from a post of mine from the old CBR forum, though I can't really remember the context (I think I'd finally just obtained, after years of searching, an agreeably cheap copy of the mag). I happened to cut & paste it into a reference file of mine because I used it maybe 3 years ago as the core of a post on Mike Howlett's FB page for his The Weird World of Eerie Publications: Comic Gore That Warped Millions of Young Minds. Vague memory tells me I also resurrected it at least once for either a Classic Comics Christmas list or the mid-summer one-shot Kurt hosted a few years back.Anyway --credits: GCD has no idea of writer or artist From: Fantastic Fears #8 Publication Year: 1953 Explanation: Evidently, my fateful first encounter with this diseased little item came via its first ever reprint appearance, in Eerie Publications' typically sleazy Weird vol. 2, no. 2, circa the spring of 1967. I was 7 years old & in 2nd grade, & I was accompany my mother during a trip to the grocery store – Kroger, I want to say (which as a kid I pronounced “Krodger” because I didn’t know any better; there were no chain groceries or chain anything else in my hometown) . We lived in Pine Bluff, about 100 miles northwest of Stamps, where I'm from, for most of that school year because of a teaching job my mother wound up losing right before the end of the academic year. Had we still been in Stamps, it's highly unlikely I'd have laid eyes on the magazine or of course on its contents, though I did come across a subsequent reprint about 3 years later in another Myron Fass paean to subtlety & good taste. In any event, at the time I'd owned &/or read probably a couple of dozen color comics, but this was almost certainly the first b&w horror publication I'd ever encountered. I couldn't have spent more than 5 minutes or so glancing through its pages, but a couple of final panels therein have stayed with me forever -- most prominently, one of one or more ghouls holding, by the hair, the mostly devoured bodies of their human collaborator's wife & daughter after emerging from the sewers during a dinner party;' to wit: (The other concerned a flower that somehow incorporated the visage of a man's dead, buried brother. There was a werewolf in there somewhere as well. Even for pre-Code horror, this one was pretty deliriously nonsensical.) Nothing from any of the other 6 stories rings any sort of bell at all, but those 2 stuck with me so vividly that I remember trying to describe them to a friend in our front yard, back home in Stamps, a year or 2 later. This story, like the rest the mag ... hell, like everything else Fass ever put out, pretty much ... was a piece of trash, pure & simple. Compared to even a middling EC, or for that matter Avon or Harvey or whomever, story from the pre-Code era, much less a Warren offering from the following decade, it was, in cinematic terms, Bloodsucking Freaks as compared to Citizen Kane. Hell, if I had a kid, I sure as heck wouldn’t want him or her reading it at age 7 (or for quite a few years thereafter, really). Something about “Fiends from the Crypt,” though, just hit me so viscerally as a child as to resonate for all the decades I’ve existed since, a sensation only reinforced when, as mentioned above, I encountered the story yet again in another typically sleazy Fass title in the early '70s. Just as scenes from a couple of nightmares from when I was a preschooler appear to be etched into my brain until death or senescence take me, at this late date I can say the same of this little … ... well, "gem" isn’t really the right word, is it? “This little thing” will suffice, I suppose. I’m one of those unfortunate individuals who ofttimes treasures the tawdry & traumatic as much as, & occasionally even more than, the sublime. This one is obviously a case in point. Is there higher praise for a specimen of horror, or at least a certain type of (sub-)gutter-level horror? Is there? I’m not sure. I don’t think there is. And, y'know, in hindsight, just as broken (non-digital, anyway) clocks are right twice a day, every now & then Dr. Wertham might've been on to something ...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 14:18:50 GMT -5
BTW, there is no truth to the rumor that when shax was coming up with a new forum, his initial instinct was to call it Fiends from the Crypt.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 17:02:02 GMT -5
30 Days Of Night Steve Niles - Ben Templesmith IDW (back when they actually published something good once in a while) 2002 Very high on my list of favorite horror comics ever. To me it's the definitive vampire story. Also it's the series that made me fall in love with Templesmith's art, which I think is perfect for horror. I think this comic may have a cross-medium effect on vampires much like the effect the Dawn Of The Dead remake had on zombies.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 17:17:57 GMT -5
Ooooh ... nice pick, dupont. Never got around to reading any of those till I picked up just about all the TPBs about 4 years ago. Great stuff (neat movie adapatations, too, IMHO).
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 15, 2014 17:36:14 GMT -5
I posted this request a few weeks ago and nobody responded. It's my Number Three but I still don't know what it was titled or what comic it was in, despite a frustrating Internet Search where I couldn't find an online EC Index that had enough details that I could figure out which story this is.
One of you EC fans must know!
HELP!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 17:43:42 GMT -5
Surely there's an EC fan list or site or FB group or something out there that one of us (not me, I regret to report) belongs to?
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Post by shaxper on Oct 15, 2014 18:54:55 GMT -5
I posted this request a few weeks ago and nobody responded. It's my Number Three but I still don't know what it was titled or what comic it was in, despite a frustrating Internet Search where I couldn't find an online EC Index that had enough details that I could figure out which story this is.
One of you EC fans must know!
HELP!
Really wish I could. As I told you then, it's inexcusable how little Pre-Code horror I have read
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 15, 2014 19:55:35 GMT -5
shaxper's #3: “Inherit the Howling Night!”writer: Bob Haney pencils: Art Saaf inks: Nick Cardy From: Teen Titans (1966) #43 Publication Year: 1973 Explanation: It starts like any good nightmare. No explanations, no setup, no hows and whys; you're just there, on a desolate hill, an old man pleading with all his heart for you to save his young grandson, currently being tossed around like a rag doll by a wild assortment of demons atop the adjacent farmhouse. Art Saaf keeps the momentum climbing from moment number one; the panels, dynamic perspectives, and exaggerated moments keeping you on the edge of your adrenaline-hammered seat while those trusty heroes, the Teen Titans, scramble desperately to make their way through that farmhouse and bring that boy to safety. There are no jokes, no youthful banter, nor any other such conventional trappings to be had here; no sense of the familiar. Your favorite heroes are running through a nightmare, and even though the past few issues have all placed these characters in the now popular horror genre in an effort to boost sales, something about the pairing is still incredibly jarring here, and that sense of discomfort works to the story's advantage. The boy is rescued after an intense five page ordeal, but the breather is used to provide some much needed exposition, and both its tone and all it foreshadows hardly allow this pause to feel like a break. It's not hard to guess where this story is leading – how the young boy, years earlier, came down with an unexpected fever, appeared to die, and was then well and happy in his crib again, this time accompanied by the presence of demons. We suspect, but no...it can't be THAT. There's no way a comics code approved superhero comic—and especially not the Teen Titans-- are going in that direction. But they are. And they do. And it's damn powerful. The Teen Titans had failed once before, but harder and more unexpected still is a situation in which they did everything right, made no blunders, and still failed to save the life of a young boy who had actually died years earlier. The thing they had been desperately scurrying to save for fifteen pages is no more than a changeling – a being that the forlorn grandfather, the very impetus behind this surreal rescue operation, must finally kill with his own shotgun. A sense of pure hopelessness pervades in that final panel. The Titans have met the horror genre, and the horror genre has proven more powerful than their sunny dispositions and youthful idealism could handle. That this ended up being the final issue of the run was, of course, inadvertent, but years later, Marv Wolfman would attempt to show that the final moments of this story, the terrible humility in the face of failure, caused the team to disband until their 1976 revival (see Secret Origins Annual #3). In the end, while the story is exceptionally well plotted, and the art is enthralling, the true power comes from Haney's brazenness, taking one of the safest, most conventional superhero franchises of the time and shocking us with a brutally cruel ending that shouldn't have been possible in their pages. This looks really good.
I scrolled up to see who wrote it ...
It's Bob Haney! This looks great!
This is during the period when he created the Super-Sons. He was on a roll!
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 15, 2014 20:10:21 GMT -5
Week Three"Your Name is Frankenstein!"Written by Stan LeeArt by Joe ManeelyFrom Menace #7Published September 1953 by Atlas ComicsMary Shelley's Frankenstein is one of my favorite novels of all time, other than Where the Wild Things Are,Don Quixote, The Little Prince and Dracula I don't think there is another novel that I've owned more copies of than Frankestein. And as a character I don't think that there is another in all of fiction that I've ever empathized with than Shelley's monster, I have always felt that somewhere within all those cobbled together corpse parts there must have been a piece from me.
Of all the various retellings and sequels though, this is my favorite. It's simple and short and though it echos much of the novel it still feels new and unique. What I like the most about it though is the way it really keys into the prejudice, intolerance and human superiority that was inherent to the original tale but in 5 short pages. It's everything I love distilled down to its purest form without feeling rushed, which is just beautiful. Also, its interesting to note that those same themes mentioned above would be a heavy focus in two of Stan Lee's most famous later stories: The Hulk and the X-Men. Both of those stories focus on characters ostricized from society struggling to fit in, powerful themes to be sure and that he was already ruminating about them in this story in 1953 shows how important they were to Lee so it would seem he felt the same way about the creature as I do.
And then there's Joe Maneely's art, just look at the way he drew the Monster's face in the right hand panel at the bottom there...its stunning. He put so much humanity into his art that at times its enough to make you weep, especially when you think of how young he died and how much more he had to give us. He's a guy that doesn't get half the credit he's due and he shines in these five pages and everything else he did from the Black Knight to the Yellow Claw and beyond.
'Nuff Said.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 15, 2014 21:45:37 GMT -5
Joe Maneely rules!
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