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Post by Confessor on Jul 31, 2017 22:30:09 GMT -5
I'm frankly amazed we got this far without someone mentioning Spidey and Mephisto. I would've done, but my therapist says it's not good for me to talk about it.
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 1, 2017 0:47:28 GMT -5
I'm curious if there are any heroes who, upon getting married, still maintained their secret identity from their spouse.
Anyhow, it seems as if you're a Batman villain who's married, your offspring is astonishingly likely to follow in your footsteps"
Two-Face married Gilda Dent. The Joker's Daughter was theirs (I would have loved to have heard Gilda explain that one to Harvey).
Clayface III and IV were married with Clayface V the result of that union.
Man-Bat was married and his wife Francine became Man-Bat on at least one occasion.
The Monarch of Menace was one of the few criminals who successfully caught Batman's attention and retired without ever being captured. That is, until his teen-aged son became the new Monarch of Menace years later.
The Getaway Genius apparently had a daughter and it was for the chance to see her grow up that his last crime involved stealing drugs to treat his cancer. For this reason, Batman helped him out. That daughter however, eventually grew up and turned to crime.
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 1, 2017 1:01:06 GMT -5
Lex Luthor (Silver Age version) not only was married, but his wife, Ardora, lived on Lexor, a planet named for its greatest hero, her husband. Thye eventually had a son, Lex Luthor, Jr. These stories always added further pathos to the already emotionally complex story of Luthor. Pathos which were completely eliminated when Cary Bates decided to have Luthor spontaneously decide to go nuts and attack Lexor in Action 544. I think if you trace the point when Luthor first became a character of complexity, that line begins with the introduction of Lexor in Superman 164 and ends with Lexor's destruction in that issue of Action some 20 years later. (though Elliot S! Maggin still managed to bring back the multidimensional Luthor in the classic Superman 416). Other Superman villains who were married: Mr Mxyzptlk Probably Bizarro (though who knows how marriage works on that world?)
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Post by Chris on Aug 1, 2017 1:02:48 GMT -5
I'm curious if there are any heroes who, upon getting married, still maintained their secret identity from their spouse. Going on memory here... I believe Barry Allen didn't tell Iris he was the Flash until about a year after they were married. Well, okay, he told her on the wedding night, but he was talking in his sleep. Iris didn't let on that she knew until Barry admitted it later. There as an issue of Justice League (#156 or 157, I think) where the Atom was wrestling with the decision of telling his fiance that he was the Atom, and the other Leaguers had differing opinions about it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 6:31:44 GMT -5
I just got an email from Jeff he said the same thing ... thanks for this answer. He has the complete story and he'll send me the complete story to me in a few days from now.
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Post by badwolf on Aug 1, 2017 12:21:48 GMT -5
I'm curious if there are any heroes who, upon getting married, still maintained their secret identity from their spouse. Anyhow, it seems as if you're a Batman villain who's married, your offspring is astonishingly likely to follow in your footsteps" Two-Face married Gilda Dent. The Joker's Daughter was theirs (I would have loved to have heard Gilda explain that one to Harvey). Clayface III and IV were married with Clayface V the result of that union. Man-Bat was married and his wife Francine became Man-Bat on at least one occasion. The Monarch of Menace was one of the few criminals who successfully caught Batman's attention and retired without ever being captured. That is, until his teen-aged son became the new Monarch of Menace years later. The Getaway Genius apparently had a daughter and it was for the chance to see her grow up that his last crime involved stealing drugs to treat his cancer. For this reason, Batman helped him out. That daughter however, eventually grew up and turned to crime. Not a Bat-foe, but Deathstroke was married until his son was permanently injured in a botched rescue attempt. His daughter, I think, originally followed in his footsteps, but later reformed with the Teen Titans.
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 1, 2017 12:35:27 GMT -5
This version of Mr. Freeze had a wife:
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Post by Rob Allen on Aug 1, 2017 13:29:49 GMT -5
When it comes to superhero romance, it's hard to imagine a more enjoyable one than Love & Capes by Thom Zahler.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Aug 1, 2017 15:17:07 GMT -5
I'm frankly amazed we got this far without someone mentioning Spidey and Mephisto. Aww. Did they break up? They were such a cute couple. I've been racking my brain about divorced supervillains for the last couple days and.... Was Deadshot? Or am I conflating the movies and the comics? Also, seriously, that is all I can think of.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Aug 1, 2017 15:17:41 GMT -5
Waaait. Deathstroke! Bam! Go me!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 16:10:24 GMT -5
This version of Mr. Freeze had a wife: Even in the Batman Movie starring George Clooney ... with Arnold S playing Mr. Freeze ...
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Post by chadwilliam on Aug 2, 2017 2:03:40 GMT -5
The Punisher is a cold, emotionless killing machine. However, because he was married and had two children, he's probably one of the few good guys in comics who can and has changed a diaper. I mean, at the same time that Spider-Man's not allowed to be married out of fear that any realism injected into the character would ruin him with fans, I think it's fascinating how it goes without saying that the character who you could probably least imagine changing diapers, singing "London Bridge is Falling Down", blowing raspberries into an infant's belly, and so forth, would not work if those details were removed from his back story. Sure, you get rid of Frank Castle's marriage and status as a father and you lose his very origin, but there's something about the richness of the life he had as a married man that needs to be juxtaposed against who he is and what he does now that makes the character interesting which, really, a cold, emotionless killing machine shouldn't be.
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