Yeah, I've been meaning to try to figure out how Tor "worked." (Kubert is my favorite artist) I knew their were several different series but I wasn't sure what was a reprint of what and what was new!
Basically the Eclipse stuff from the 80's were reprints of the early St.Johns stuff, but what I listed were the originals. There's also another run from DC in 2008 which was good too but it doesn't qualify so I didn't list it. But the best part is other than the Epic mini and the latter DC mini the other issues are all self contained so you can pick up any old issue and read it on it's own because there isn't anything more to it than a cave ban wandering around fighting monsters so no continuity issues to hold you back.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP
# 2 - Legion of Super-Heroes # 1-61, Annuals # 1-5, and Legionnaires # 1-18, Annuals # 1-2 by Tom & Mary Bierbaum, Keith Giffen, Al Gordon, Tom McCraw, and Mark Waid with art primarily by Keith Giffen, Al Gordon, Jason Pearson, Stuart Immonen, Chris Sprouse, and Adam Hughes
There was heavy overlap between these two titles
Valor # 1-23 by Robert Loren Fleming, Mark Waid, and Kurt Busiek with art by Mark Bright, Jeffrey Moore, and Colleen Doran
I loved the Legion when Levitz and Giffen were on it.
At first, I hated this version, volume 4, of the Legion.
It hadn’t been around for a little while and I was rabidly awaiting their return, like always happens.
Well, what did I get ?
5 Years Later, Giffen shoves us into the dark cold future.
It's still Keith Giffen, but instead of channeling Jack Kirby, he's discovered Jose Munoz, whose work is very distinctive and heavy on blacks.
The look itself was so different that visually it turned a lot of fans off not being very traditional.
Like a lot of stylized art, I eventually came to like it, but at first, I didn't so much.
Another thing, is that his co-writers, Tom & Mary Bierbaum, were hardcore Legion fans.
That in itself was way cool and what they did to shake up the franchise was radical, but I've always really loved this concept of professional creator and fans-turned-new-pros taking the wheel.
The team is broken up and in different locations across the galaxy.
We only learn snippets of what happened between the end of Volume 3, the Magic Wars, and now, in passing dialogue.
The team tried to do the best that they could with the Superboy basically never having existed from the Pocket Universe storyline of Volume 3 # 37-38.
Mon-EL (emphasis mine) became a problem too as a relative of the House of El, Superboy, so a similar character, Valor, was introduced with the re-configuring of the Legion universe timeline where reality was ruled by Mordru and Glorith.
That’s where things get crazy.
Supergirl also was replaced with new character Laurel Gand.
From there things really got nuts.
It truly felt more sci-fi than any other Legion I’d ever read, and it was in fact, scary.
You felt like anything could happen.
It really shook the entire Legion with how radically different, and more mature, they were now; even dark perhaps, as it was the 90’s of course.
This was a darker adult Legion, and eventually it was revealed that there was a duplicate set of Legionnaires created by the Dominators.
They were modeled after the team at the point in time when they were considered the strongest, just after the death of Ferro Lad.
This gave us two different Legions, with this duplicate set having more of a traditional Silver Age feel.
They eventually spun off into their own Legionnaires title, which I ended up liking quite a lot.
The "Archie" Legion had its own title and Mon-El got retconned to Valor, the Superboy archetype, and that was actually a really good series as well.
The "End of an Era" storyline crossed all three titles. I didn't really believe that DC was going to do what it looked like they were going to do, but they actually did it.
They pulled the plug on the whole franchise and rebooted it.
Remember when I said no one was safe ?
I gave it a try anyway, cause I'm a huge Legion fan, and I get why they did it, but I really have a soft spot for the Legion back then.
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Of the day 9 choices those in my have read pile...
-Usagi in parts -Warlock saga -parts of the Englehart/Rogers Detective run -parts of those Galactus issues -Watchmen -Starman -Tor (the St. John's stuff, I have the DC and Epic books but haven't dove in yet)
People don't want the Truth. They want only information that supports what they think they already know. -Vess from Invisible Kingdom
I see a comics culture that preserves and appreciates its past, but doesn't wallow in witless nostalgia. -Scott McCloud
Humans beings always do the most intelligent thing…after they’ve tried every stupid alternative and none of them have worked -Buckminster Fuller
2. Uncanny X-Men #129-138 (1980) “Dark Phoenix” by Chris Claremont and John Byrne
Story overview: Powerful X-Woman Phoenix finds herself slipping into hallucinations in which she’s a romantic but cruel gentlewoman in a Jane Austen-type setting. Who is behind it, what is it doing to her virtue, and what will the fallout be?
My Two Cents: As with Watchmen, a long explanatory article on one of the most famous and influential comics stories ever seems almost superfluous. At its heart, this is a story about every parent’s fear: the young adult child who falls into bad company, wanders off into a dark world of sex, drugs, and death, and never returns. We want our children to spread their wings and fly, and to learn from their mistakes, but from some mistakes there’s just no path back to the light. My favorite part of this story is not the early brawl with the kinky Hellfire Club or the final honor duel against an ersatz Legion of Super-Heroes in the form of the Shi’ar Imperial Guard. It’s the twelve hours preceding the end, where over the course of several pages, we get to see each X-Man thinking about what Jean Grey means to him or her. Claremont and Byrne earned these moments by spending the previous four years not just writing super-fights but by gradually building actual characters, with distinct traits, distinct preferences, and distinct relationships with each of the other members of their super-family.