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Post by EdoBosnar on Jun 1, 2023 8:18:01 GMT -5
Looking over at the covers at Mike's Newsstand, I had only 10 titles this month: Alpha Flight #2 Batman & the Outsiders #2 My interest in these two new team titles was still pretty high... DC Comics Presents #61 One of this month's unanticipated gems for me, as I was only very sporadically picking up this title at this point, but the striking cover by Perez got me to pull it off the spinner rack, and when I saw that he also did the interior art, the decision to buy it was a no-brainer. Fantastic Four #258 Great cover. As Roquefort Raider notes, Byrne did a great Doom. New Mutants #8 An X-title was still a must-buy for me. New Teen Titans Annual #2 Another great cover, but I recall thinking even back then that this was DC trying to have an equivalent to Marvel's Punisher (a character that didn't need to be emulated as far as I was concerned) and shoehorning Adrian Chase into the role - I agree with RR that he should have just remained a civilian supporting character. Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #9 I wasn't about to miss the latest installment of Encyclopedia Marveliana... Omega Men #6 I'm pretty sure this is the last issue of this series I bought. X-men #173 A good issue, but even back then I was already starting to get a little annoyed with increasing emphasis on Wolverine (right on the heels of his mini-series), even though his over-exposure was still some way down the road.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 1, 2023 8:32:35 GMT -5
That DC Comics Presents issue looks pretty neat. I had enjoyed the return of OMAC as a back-up feature in Kamandi and then Warlord (the Starlin instalments, at least). I'm sure Perez did the character justice!
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jun 1, 2023 9:25:23 GMT -5
That DC Comics Presents issue looks pretty neat. I had enjoyed the return of OMAC as a back-up feature in Kamandi and then Warlord (the Starlin instalments, at least). I'm sure Perez did the character justice! Oh, it is indeed neat, and Perez more than did the character justice. It's pretty much non-stop action, with punch-ups and things blowing up (so, among other things, a bunch of that famous Perez wreckage debris as well).
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Post by berkley on Jun 1, 2023 15:17:48 GMT -5
That DC Comics Presents issue looks pretty neat. I had enjoyed the return of OMAC as a back-up feature in Kamandi and then Warlord (the Starlin instalments, at least). I'm sure Perez did the character justice! Oh, it is indeed neat, and Perez more than did the character justice. It's pretty much non-stop action, with punch-ups and things blowing up (so, among other things, a bunch of that famous Perez wreckage debris as well).
I can't remember if I already have a copy of that issue or not but it's definitely on my list of 1980s DC comics to read, mainly for the Perez artwork, though I'm also a little curious to see what Len Wein did with OMAC.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 1, 2023 20:28:59 GMT -5
Haven't done this in a while. Was I even buying comics in June of '83? Lessee...
Apparently, I was. To wit: Alien Worlds #3 All-Star Squadron #25 Alpha Flight #2 American Flagg! #12 Avengers #235 Batman #363 [div ]Batman and the Outsiders #2[/div][/b][/div] Berni Wrightson #2 Blackhawk #262 Camelot 3000 #8 DC Comics Presents #61 Defenders #123 Detective Comics #530 Elfquest #16 Fantastic Four #258 Jon Sable #5 Justice League of America #218
Marvel Fanfare #10 Marvel Team-Up #133 Neil the Horse #3 New Mutants #8 New Teen Titans Annual #2 Night Force #14 Official Handbook #9 Peter Parker #82 Sword of the Atom #1 Thing #4
Uncanny X-Men #173 Bolded comics are still in my collection. Italicized comics I have in TPB or other collected format. By this point,I'd stopped buying Daredevil, Iron Man, and Power Man & Iron Fist, all former favorites, and would shortly drop Defenders, Peter Parker, and Thing. I was growing tired of Marvel under Shooter, and was trying new titles from new publishers like Flagg, Sable, Elfquest, and Neil the Horse.
Over the intervening decades, I've purchased copies of Amethyst #5 Arak #25 Legion of Super-Heroes Annual #2 Wonder Woman #307 World's Finest Comics #295 ...and, of course, I have electronic copies of everything but the Amazing Heroes issues and a handful of minor titles. Cei-U! I summon the accidental nostalgia!
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 1, 2023 21:50:28 GMT -5
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Post by Graphic Autist on Jun 2, 2023 8:22:40 GMT -5
I had just started collecting comics at this point. FF #258 and X-Men #173 were the first issues of both titles I had ever read.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 2, 2023 0:03:56 GMT -5
Then... More First Comics, some DC (always loved the Freedom Fighters, even when the comics weren't very good, and their own series wasn't, apart from a select few issues). Great Hawkeye mini, good Captain America annual, my next to last X-Men,, for nearly a decade. Later... These were bought later, either because I missed them or didn't have the funds to buy. When I discovered the DC and Marvel Baxter reprints of classic stories, I snapped them up. Here, we have the O'Neil/Adams GL/GA and the Moon Knight stories from Hulk Magazine and Marvel Preview. Nexus I only saw the third magazine issue, but later bought everything, magazines and comics, on the strength of an image in Gerard Jones & Will Jacobs' The Comic Book Heroes.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 2, 2023 3:05:36 GMT -5
So this month I had: Alpha Flight #3 Still committed to this title. Avengers #236 After the FF crossover a bit earlier, I'd stopped reading Avengers, but then picked this one up because I was curious about this whole, "Is Spidey joining thing?" Batman & Outsiders #3 Same as Alpha Flight, I was really interested in this. Captain America Annual #7 ...not really sure why I had this one, because at that point I'd stopped reading the monthly series; the story was all right I guess - I recall that it had something to do with the Cosmic Cube and the Aquarian (Wundarr) was a guest star. Defenders #124 At this point, I hadn't picked up an issue of Defenders for almost 2 years; the cover and some of the hype about the "New Defenders," with X-men leftovers joining the team, piqued my curiosity. I didn't stick around for long, though. Fantastic Four #259 Probably still my favorite monthly series. Hawkeye #2 I see that I didn't mention this earlier, but yes, I was definitely all-in for this (suprisingly, I see that the first issue of the Falcon mini-series came out this month; for whatever reason, I never got it at the time - I only read it decades later - not really sure why I decided to skip it back then. It may have just been due to my overall waning interest in comics at the time.) New Mutants #9 New Teen Titans #35 Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #10 X-men #175 ...all four of these were also still must-buys for me.
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Post by berkley on Jul 2, 2023 22:40:47 GMT -5
July 1983:
Captain Victory and the Galactic Rangers #12 E-Man #7 New Teen Titans #35 Saga of Swamp Thing #17 Silver Star #4
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 3, 2023 10:07:49 GMT -5
Purchased in July 1983 : Alpha Flight #3. Why wasn't I more thrilled by this title, considering that I was a big Byrne fan? Perhaps it was because I felt little emotional connection with the characters (I basically only cared for Mac and Heather at that point) and because the art seemed a bit rushed. Not rushed as in "the artist can't draw", but because it involved a lot of short-cuts that even budding artist me could spot immediately. Things like replacing a background that''s painstakingly long to render by cool-looking geometrical forms, for example. Arak #26. Another nice bit of historical fiction, in which I learned more about Constantinople. Unbeknownst to this reader, however, the high point of the series was now in the past. A pity, to, as its concept was brilliant. Batman #364, found at the local newsstand (a rare treat). That was during the excellentMoench-Newton-Alcala era, and although it involved a circus (I hate circuses) its ongoing development of Jason Todd as the next Robin was an enjoyable read. Conan #151. For completists only, really. Daredevil #200, or "we really have NO IDEA how to handle the character after Frank Miller was through with him". Hornhead basically undergoes a "back to the basics" epiphany, reflecting that he has been acting strangely recently (heck, in my opinion he underwent a severe nervous breakdown after the death of Elektra, but that was better written off than addressed, I suppose). This uninspired post-Miller reset is in sharp contrast to what Ann Nocenti would give us a few years down the line, after Miller's second stint; Ann took the ball and ran with it, with no setting back of the clock. Doctor Strange #61. Doc and Co. are facing Dracula and trying to put an end to the curse of vampires everywhere. The story itself is pretty good, but is another step on the deconstruction road that Marvel had undertaken after Jean Grey's death... a road that would write off a lot of the things that made the Marvel Universe such an interesting place. In just a handful of years, we would witness the death of several interesting B-listers (Spider-Woman, Iron Fist and more), the destruction of the Savage Land, the Skrulls losing their shape-changing abilities, the destruction of the Helicarrier, the death of all of Rom's supporting cast, the destruction of S.H.I.E.L.D, etc, etc. As a kid, I loved to build castle out of blocks and then tear them down; but there's a limit to what you can tear down in a fictional universe before you don't have any cool toys to play with anymore. I'm not sure eliminating vampires was a good move; it's the kind of major development that gets undone eventually, hurting our willing suspension of disbelief. Fantastic Four #259. I didn't much like Terrax/Tyros as a villain. On the other hand, I like the idea of a villain trying a certain plan for the second time, fixing what had gone wrong the first time around; Doom would do that here (trying to harness the power cosmic, but not using himself as a Guinea pig), and he'd do it again a few years later (shooting the Baxter Building up in space, but blowing it up at the first opportunity). Not that such recycled plans were always a good idea... I would personally have blown up the building right where it was). John Byrne was still heading a great FF run. Indiana Jones #10, worth the price if only for the Chaykin cover. Chaykin should SO have been the artist on this series, inking himself (or aided by Terry Austin). King Conan #19. Under a lovely Mike Kaluta cover, a tale of piracy, royal abduction, romance and swordplay. The dawn of a truly great run, and still by far the best Conan title at the time. Legion of super-heroes #304, featuring the Legion academy. I didn't quite get the idea of the academy... If there was a school to train rookie superheroes that might someday join the ranks of the LSH, why was Jacques Foccart (not only a rookie, but someone who had never even considered becoming a superhero) been inducted right after his first appearance? Anyway. I assumed that Laurel Kent (first time I heard of her) was a descendent of Superman, which was cool, but I thought her outfit (a red poncho under which she didn't seem to wear anything) wasn't very practical. Nevertheless, this new series (to me) was a treasure-trove of discoveries and story possibilities, and I loved it. New Mutants #9. Oy, vey, survivors of ancient Rome still living today as their ancestors had 2000 years ago. It didn't make much sense in Tarzan and the Lost Empire, and doesn't here either. Why would a splinter group from ancient Rome not evolve as a society over all those centuries? Even for people steeped in tradition, that's hard to swallow. Official Handbook of the MU #10 : presented by the letter S, as they say on Sesame Street. Ronin #2. Not a fan. I had liked the medieval Japan bit in the first issue, but this loosely-rendered dystopian future world didn't do much for me. Savage Sword of Conan #92. Full review here . That's the issue in which someone from the production line drew a cigarette in Conan's mouth (as a joke), complete with a little cloud of smoke, and forgot to remove it. The editor apologized in a later issue, saying that maybe Conan briefly decided to try smoking and didn't like it... but that you'd never, ever, ever see him smoke again. Star Wars #76, another good issue set in between the second and third films. My favourite era in Star Wars, in all honesty, as I wasn't all that thrilled by Return of the Jedi and was decidedly underwhelmed by everything that came after. (Yes, you too, "Heir to the Empire", you predictable done-by-the-numbers sequel). Return of the Jedi #1, first of four parts spreading the Marvel Super Special material by inserting new splash pages not drawn by the main artists here and there and adding pin-ups at the end. I wish Marvel had used six issues, as for its original Star Wars adaptation, and used a more decompressed approach. The way this format came across, the story felt condensed and padded at the same time. X-Men #174. Ooooh, those tentalizing hints that Maddie Pryor might be Phoenix reborn! But with Mastermind on the cover, we sort of expected that it would be another illusion. I must admit I was a bit miffed at seeing Mastermind back. Not that he's a bad villain, but Chris Claremont tended to have villains die or be convincingly written out of the picture in a permanent-looking fashion only to reappear after a few months, good as new, with no explanation whatsoever. At first it's like "we don't need to tell you everything, dear reader... not everything is explained in real life" but after a while it's as if nobody even bothers to come up with rational explanations.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 3, 2023 12:35:02 GMT -5
July 1983: As always, having been born in '79, all of these issues were acquired after the fact. Alpha Flight #3: My youngest daughter picked me up a bunch of scattered issues of Alpha Flight two years back because she was sure I didn't own any, and they looked interesting. Mostly out of appreciation for her thoughtfulness, I completed the run only a few months back and now need to find time to read it. American Flagg #2: I remember reading this run for the first time after I had thrown out my back and was on doctor's orders to spend the day on my belly on a hard floor. This was what I read. I probably would have enjoyed it more if I'd experienced it in any other context! Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld #6: I tried unsuccessfully to read this with both my daughters. Such a cool concept, but their attention-spans weren't up for a comic this dense. When they got older, they had the attention spans, but no longer had the interest. Avengers #236: I remember feeling like Avengers was in such a rut at this point. Spidey was with the team for what? three issues? But it took me like four years to get through them and continue reading the run. Batman #364: I LOVE Moench, and this run was the first place where I felt that love, but not at this early point. The bond between Bruce and Jason was working, but this villain was stupid, and the plotting/progression over the past few issues had been indecisive at best. Captain Victory and the Galactic Rangers #12: I read it, I liked it well enough, and I remember almost none of it. Detective Comics #531: Moench Batman, still trying to find it's way at this point. Elric #3: Such an underrated series! The collected volume by First publishing makes some modifications that really improve the flow of the story. I've read it so many times now, and I was amazed when I finally went back to read the original Moorcock novels that I liked them less! Fantastic Four #259: Planning to finally read this run very soon! Groo #5: Not sure if I still own this or not. I have a very weird relationship with Groo. I LOVE it, but I find it endlessly repetitive, so I know I once owned EVERY Groo story and then sold most off, only keeping a brief stretch to re-read. I'm not sure if I kept the Pacific issues or not, as I generally feel the Marvel ones were better. Marvel Team-Up Annual #6: I don't remember whether or not I've even read this one, but if it's early New Mutants, I love it either way. Moon Knight Special Edition #1: Still haven't gotten around to reading Moon Knight yet. New Mutants #9: Hey! I actually reviewed this one! New Teen Titans #35 Rom #47 Ronin #2 Uncanny X-Men #174
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 3, 2023 12:49:36 GMT -5
Fantastic Four #259: Planning to finally read this run very soon! It really is quite good. Just the right mix of nostalgia, respect for the original concept, new ideas, and the illusion of change. Plus revoltin' developments that don't drag on for years.
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Post by tonebone on Jul 7, 2023 9:31:10 GMT -5
Looking over at the covers at Mike's Newsstand, I had only 10 titles this month: Alpha Flight #2 Batman & the Outsiders #2 My interest in these two new team titles was still pretty high... DC Comics Presents #61 One of this month's unanticipated gems for me, as I was only very sporadically picking up this title at this point, but the striking cover by Perez got me to pull it off the spinner rack, and when I saw that he also did the interior art, the decision to buy it was a no-brainer. Fantastic Four #258 Great cover. As Roquefort Raider notes, Byrne did a great Doom. New Mutants #8 An X-title was still a must-buy for me. New Teen Titans Annual #2 Another great cover, but I recall thinking even back then that this was DC trying to have an equivalent to Marvel's Punisher (a character that didn't need to be emulated as far as I was concerned) and shoehorning Adrian Chase into the role - I agree with RR that he should have just remained a civilian supporting character. Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #9 I wasn't about to miss the latest installment of Encyclopedia Marveliana... Omega Men #6 I'm pretty sure this is the last issue of this series I bought. X-men #173 A good issue, but even back then I was already starting to get a little annoyed with increasing emphasis on Wolverine (right on the heels of his mini-series), even though his over-exposure was still some way down the road. Those are all such good issues... man collecting comics was so much fun back then.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 1, 2023 15:46:36 GMT -5
Purchased with my devalued Canadian currency in August 1983 :
Alpha Flight #4. The Master of the Wolrd isn’t a very interesting villain, although he has a cool suit. Marrina is not a very interesting character either. Dammit, Jim, I should enjoy this comic more than I do! Arak #27. New artist Ron Randall is all right, but I preferred Robin Rodriguez. And the book suffers from “post-climax syndrome”, as would a Thor story following Ragnarok. Arak is facing new dangers from Bullfinch’s mythology and from Frazer’s Golden Bough. Batman #365. I had totally forgotten that issue! With Moench, Newton and Alcala I suppose it must have been good, but not enough to make an unforgettable impression. Cerebus #53. That’s the first issue of Cerebus I bought, and I was very impressed by Dave Sim’s art style and by his skill with dialogues. It felt like a really mature comic. I wonder why I didn’t keep reading the series. Conan #152. Even a Michael Golden cover can’t salvage this generic issue! Defenders #125, in which, as per the custom in those days, most everyone dies as a title gets cancelled. Yeah, yeah, I get it… Jean Grey’s death had been an event of massive proportions that changed comics forever… but killing everyone else is NOT the way to go!!! I can’t say that I much cared for that version of the team, but still. It’s all right to just let heroes retire, or to move on to different thongs (as long as it isn’t X-Factor!!!) Doctor Strange #62. Case in point… Let’s also kill Dracula! Lilith! Harold H. Harold! Every other vampire too, while we’re at it! And not just a stake through the heart: let’s make it clear that no vampire can ever exist again, due to mumbo jumbo! As if killing Rachel van Helsing in an issue of X-Men hadn’t been enough… Fantastic Four #260, in which Doctor Doom’s body is destroyed. But kudos to John Buyrne, who doesn’t try to hide the fact that Doom’s personality moved on to a different body. Still, being burned to a crisp by a disintegrating Terrax gotta sting. Indiana Jones #11-12: David Michelinie and Ron Frenz are a great team on this book, They deal just the right combination of humour and adventure. Take note, Disney (although it is now far too late). Hawkeye #4. Hawkeye is now deaf and married. The former won’t last… and, sadly, neither will the other. I thought Clint and Barbara made a nice couple. Kull the conqueror #3. Beautiful painted cover by Michael Golden, and an excellent story set at sea. Alan Zelenetz really knew how to handle the Valusian philosopher king. The book is still double-sized, too! What a treat! Legion of super-heroes #305. Shrinking Violet is not Shrinking Violet! She’s a shape-shifting Durlan whose mission was to infiltrate the Legion, only she fell in love and married Colossal Boy! The later Johnny Storm-Alicia Masters-Skrull nonsense did not even have the virtue of being original. Magic #1, exploring that “lost” period during which little Illyana became the mistress of Limbo. It’s a very Claremontian series, with the corruption of innocent souls, being owned body and souls and yadda-yadda-yadda. I did not much care for this series, but it did fill a gap in our understanding. Micronauts #55. Still beautifully drawn by Jackson Guice and Kelley Jones (the difference the right inker can make!), as Bill Mantlo brings us back to the ambiance of the first twelve issues. New Mutants #10. Lost civilizations that still act like 2000 years ago work much less for me today than they did back then. Romans in Brazil. And no one ever knew. Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #11. Seeing Thor on the cover reminds me that among the statistics given for our heroes, there was the amount they could lift. As I recall, Hercules was rated as stronger than Thor by about 10 tons. TEN TONS!!! That's why I think such specific numbers are more of a hindrance than anything else. "In the 100 tons range" strikes me as more desirable. Red Sonja #3. Gotta admit, Mary Wiltshire and Nestor Redondo make a pretty good art team. Savage Sword of Conan #93. Nice cover by Kaluta, and a pleasant (though silly) story in which Conan interacts with his otherdimensional alterego named Konar. (Phonetically speaking. “Konar” in French is a decidedly poor choice for a name! It’s like the English C word that rhymes with Bunt). Savage sword of Conan #94. Val Mayerik/Vince Colletta on the art, with some terribly bad pages toward the end. Generic story. Star Wars #77. Jo Duffy made me laugh with her “Chanteuse of the stars”. The Star Wars comic was still pretty darn good right before Return of the Jedi. Star Wars annual #3, drawn by Klaus Janson, in which a newly orphaned boy seems to be a good candidate for the next Darth Vader. Return of the Jedi #2-3, continuing the miniseries adapting the film. As I said last month, I thought this adaptation was both too dense and too decpmpressed. To dense because not enough panels are devoted to describe each scene, and too decompressed because the page count is cranked up with unnecessary pin-ups. Thor #337-338. Without a doubt THE comic that excited me the most in 1983. Walt Simonson reinvented the thunder god in the best possible way, and I just couldn’t believe how much I loved it! A recent re-read didn’t get me as enthused, but I remember that back then I waited for every issue with febrility. Thor looked BIG, Sif looked like Sigourney Weaver, Asgard look properly Viking, and Beta-Ray Bill (the most wasted character of the ‘80s, I think) was really cool at first. Man, I loved that comic. Thor annual #11. Tales of Asgard, not uninteresting. But not Simonson-level either!!! Thriller #1. Supposed to be a next step in mature comic-book storytelling. It was not. My run stopped at one issue. X-Men #175, which concludes in a beautifully bittersweet manner the love story between Scott Summers and Jean Grey. Scott finally says goodbye, and is glad that his new love, Madelyne, is not actually a reincarnation of Jean ( shows what you know, Scotty). Before the demons of corporate greed and retconning messed with this perfect ending, it was a beautiful example of how people can grow through grief and find happiness again. Sigh.
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