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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 10:06:54 GMT -5
just for shaxper it seems Wizard World announced they are relaunching Wizard magazine as a quarterly digital magazine and have daily WizPop video featurette's covering the world of comics and pop culture. The newly hired Director of Content, Brian Walton, fresh form a stint as editor -in-chief at the Nerdist will be overseeing the venture. Newsarama has more details (not much, but more) and the official relaunch is set for WizardWorld Chicago next week. Personally, I never really was into Wizard as the voice of comics, I was more a Comic's Buyer's Guide kind of guy, but with the adfest clickbait mess most of the comic news sites have devolved into, it might be nice if someone actually produced something with some actual interesting content. I doubt Wizard is it, based on the magazine's track record, but I'll wait and see. It's sad when I get better more in depth articles about comics in places like The Atlantic and Vanity Fair than form sites devoted to covering comics. I'm glad to see comics getting mainstream coverage to be sure, just sad the actual comics media sites have gone to pot so badly and their sites are so unfriendly to users and so useless. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 10:44:46 GMT -5
I'm very surprised by this announcement and shocked by all this. I agree with you @mrp that I wasn't interested in this magazine at all and very few people back then brought the magazine when it's printed form. I've brought a couple of Wizard Magazine back in the 80's and sooner than later I regretted buying it; and most everyone that I talk to feels the same way like me.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 17, 2017 10:59:41 GMT -5
just for shaxper it seems Wizard World announced they are relaunching Wizard magazine as a quarterly digital magazine and have daily WizPop video featurette's covering the world of comics and pop culture. The newly hired Director of Content, Brian Walton, fresh form a stint as editor -in-chief at the Nerdist will be overseeing the venture. Newsarama has more details (not much, but more) and the official relaunch is set for WizardWorld Chicago next week. Personally, I never really was into Wizard as the voice of comics, I was more a Comic's Buyer's Guide kind of guy, but with the adfest clickbait mess most of the comic news sites have devolved into, it might be nice if someone actually produced something with some actual interesting content. I doubt Wizard is it, based on the magazine's track record, but I'll wait and see. It's sad when I get better more in depth articles about comics in places like The Atlantic and Vanity Fair than form sites devoted to covering comics. I'm glad to see comics getting mainstream coverage to be sure, just sad the actual comics media sites have gone to pot so badly and their sites are so unfriendly to users and so useless. -M I never read an issue of Wizard. I'd see it on the newsstand and flip through and just shake my head. But I'm sure I wasn't the target audience. The problem with the vast majority of comics media sites (and that includes from whence we came) is that they don't want to be comics media sites. They want to be media sites. From a purely economic standpoint that probably makes sense. And it probably makes sense financially to have a dozen meaningless listicles that people can read in three minutes on their mobile (if they can get through the pop-ups) rather than a good in depth article. But it's damn frustrating. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 11:04:11 GMT -5
I'm very surprised by this announcement and shocked by all this. I agree with you @mrp that I wasn't interested in this magazine at all and very few people back then brought the magazine when it's printed form. I've brought a couple of Wizard Magazine back in the 80's and sooner than later I regretted buying it; and most everyone that I talk to feels the same way like me. Actually it sold very well and at its peak had a circulation of over 100K, outselling all other comic news magazines. When it initially hit newsstands (not comic shops) it upped its circulation, but the advent of internet newssites and the immediacy of the news available there, plus mismanagement and late shipping is what killed Wizard's circulation. Why pay to get news that is old in prnt when you can get it immediately for free on the net. Shifting towards pop culture a whole rather than being comic-focused also killed it in the comic shops. But it its day, despite my feelings towards it, it was immensely successful for what it was and a lot of people bought and read it. I'm skeptical about the relaunch, I think Wizard's day as a relevant source of news and info is done, but I can't deny the success it had in its day or the influence it had on comics as a whole. Shax did a great thread examining some of the early issues on it, which can help put Wizard's influence at the time in perspective. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 12:33:08 GMT -5
mrp, I did not know that this Magazine hits the newsstands at all and I wasn't aware the success it's had of which I was impressed by the numbers that you gave me. First of all, all I know is that it's sold in Comic Shops of which I know that it's didn't do so well and everybody that I talked to hates this magazine because it's sold in bags of which there is a tremendous risk of paying something that you regret later. FYI: I brought about dozen or so magazines because of the Cover alone and 2-3 months later tossed them out. Wasting $3.99 plus tax.Anyway, thanks for your comments here and could you and/or shaxper did a great thread examining some of the early issues on it, which can help put Wizard's influence at the time in perspective. I'll be patience for your answer.
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Post by Randle-El on Aug 17, 2017 13:52:47 GMT -5
just for shaxper it seems Wizard World announced they are relaunching Wizard magazine as a quarterly digital magazine and have daily WizPop video featurette's covering the world of comics and pop culture. The newly hired Director of Content, Brian Walton, fresh form a stint as editor -in-chief at the Nerdist will be overseeing the venture. Newsarama has more details (not much, but more) and the official relaunch is set for WizardWorld Chicago next week. Personally, I never really was into Wizard as the voice of comics, I was more a Comic's Buyer's Guide kind of guy, but with the adfest clickbait mess most of the comic news sites have devolved into, it might be nice if someone actually produced something with some actual interesting content. I doubt Wizard is it, based on the magazine's track record, but I'll wait and see. It's sad when I get better more in depth articles about comics in places like The Atlantic and Vanity Fair than form sites devoted to covering comics. I'm glad to see comics getting mainstream coverage to be sure, just sad the actual comics media sites have gone to pot so badly and their sites are so unfriendly to users and so useless. -M I never read an issue of Wizard. I'd see it on the newsstand and flip through and just shake my head. But I'm sure I wasn't the target audience. The problem with the vast majority of comics media sites (and that includes from whence we came) is that they don't want to be comics media sites. They want to be media sites. From a purely economic standpoint that probably makes sense. And it probably makes sense financially to have a dozen meaningless listicles that people can read in three minutes on their mobile (if they can get through the pop-ups) rather than a good in depth article. But it's damn frustrating. Speaking of "from whence we came"... since CBR was sold, I have dropped by from time to time to peruse the content, and boy has that neighborhood gone downhill. I could go on about all the things that have gone wrong, but to me the single most glaring change to me has been the quality of the articles. If it's not a listicle, it's their tendency to wring an entire article out of a single quote from some actor or director. They'll have a brief intro paragraph, the actual quote itself, and a closing paragraph which is usually just a generic PR blurb listing the actors for the TV show or movie, the studio, and the release date. So if the last paragraph is generic PR blurb, and the body is basically a quote, more than half the article is content not even generated by the author. And given the average length, that means most of their writers only need to write a paragraph or two to post an article. Talk about minimal effort. |
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Post by shaxper on Aug 17, 2017 15:35:47 GMT -5
I have no interest in Wizard beyond its being a perfect symbol of '90s comicdom in all its glory and horror. Not sure how this is a feasible marketing move, but I guess they're banking on nostalgia.
Thanks for sharing this, mrp!
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Post by shaxper on Aug 17, 2017 15:37:04 GMT -5
Anyway, thanks for your comments here and could you and/or shaxper did a great thread examining some of the early issues on it, which can help put Wizard's influence at the time in perspective. I'll be patience for your answer. I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. If it's for a link to the reviews of the early Wizard issues, then by all means. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 16:46:58 GMT -5
Anyway, thanks for your comments here and could you and/or shaxper did a great thread examining some of the early issues on it, which can help put Wizard's influence at the time in perspective. I'll be patience for your answer. I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. If it's for a link to the reviews of the early Wizard issues, then by all means. I bookmarked that link and planning on reading the whole thread on Sunday. Thanks for sharing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 17:15:59 GMT -5
I loved it back in the day.
All those interviews and greatest comics lists help shape what I read from the late 90s forward.
It was also where I cut my teeth on message boards.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 17, 2017 17:40:55 GMT -5
I would read it when I was working in either of the two comic book shops that employed me, only because the owners wanted me to keep up on the industry. Occasionally I would buy an issue here and there, but it was not a regular thing.
After I stopped working there, I only ever bought one issue of it for myself, which was the one where they ranked the Top 10 Rogues Galleries, because I was interested in seeing how things shook out. I may have that magazine somewhere in my house, although for the life of me, I can't imagine where it would be at this point.
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Post by String on Aug 17, 2017 18:14:34 GMT -5
Here's the difference for me.
Back then, my brother bought Wizard frequently for awhile. When he would let me borrow the latest issue, I would read it in about 2 hours or so, from cover to cover. It was o-kay.
After discovering Comic Buyer's Guide though, it would usually took me about 3 days to read one issue of that, from cover to cover. Just because of the in-depth articles, the great historical perspective, the reviews, the classifieds, the opinion columns, and the letters page.
The gap in depth between the two was eye-opening.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 17, 2017 18:38:32 GMT -5
I liked it so much That I subscribed. The 1/2 issues were great.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 21:15:33 GMT -5
Still on the fence about checking this new incarnation out.
It's mostly deciding if I'm going to hold a grudge against Wizard World for buying out the local convention three years ago and then faking us out for two years straight by cancelling it with a few weeks to go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 22:54:10 GMT -5
shaxper ... I sort of remember that thread and after reading a few pages - I got the general feel of what this heading to and because of that I lost all interest in Wizard Magazine. Thanks for pointing it out.
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