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Post by Outrajs on Aug 18, 2017 9:37:20 GMT -5
Being as I am not make I want to ask the men a question. According to pop culture, if you read comics regularly then you basically live in your parents' basement, downloading porn (called anime), and essentially live an antisocial life. You are automatically geeks, nerds, and crazies that society is afraid of. Does the stereotype offend you? Do you embrace your nerdom? Do you even consider yourself any of those?
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Post by badwolf on Aug 18, 2017 9:50:47 GMT -5
Now that comics are so mainstream I'm not sure how widespread that stereotype is any more. I'd say people who still buy into it are just ignorant and not worth paying any attention to. I'm finally old enough to not really care what people think anyway.
I don't know why you equate anime with porn though. There is some pornographic anime of course but in Japan animation is just another medium to tell any kind of story.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 18, 2017 9:52:13 GMT -5
Those types of qualities are extreme , and I would classify them as nerds. I think most of the members here have a balanced life that includes spouses and outside interests.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 10:07:29 GMT -5
Let's see. I have read comics for 50 years. Embrace Star Trek & other pop culture nerdy things....
but I have been married for 33 years, have 3 children, own my own house, make a decent income...
so I guess I don't fit the stereotype.
Personally I don't care if anyone thinks I am a nerd.
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Post by Warmonger on Aug 18, 2017 10:10:57 GMT -5
Meh
High fantasy/sword and sorcery based stuff was always considered really nerdy as well.
Now look...Game of Thrones is the biggest show on TV watched by tens of millions every week.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 10:22:53 GMT -5
I have a wide variety of things to do and I've won't be online that often this weekend attending a reunion with friends that I've not seen for awhile and all that. I run a club, see movies, and spend about 2 hours a week reading comics from DC Archives and Marvel Masterworks on a weekly basis and watch classic movies on TCM and so forth. I'm very mainstream and still watch cartoons on an occasional basis especially old Filmation Classics.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Aug 18, 2017 10:55:49 GMT -5
The only source on that, I have, is a gaming forum I go to where there is, supposedly, an increasing amount of males called NEETs (not in education, employment or training) that well into their 20's and 30's sit in their parents basements, playing video games, spending time on the internet and watching anime with not interest in socializing or leaving the house. Many of them are misogynistic without right hate for women due to the fact that they don't leave the house much and have little social skills but yet blame women when they do try and get turned down. Just observing from posts and commentary on this site and one discord channel a lot of males have resolved to live life at their parents expense with no real desire to talk to girls (or guys if that be the case) and increasingly think that their flaws are too overwhelming and decide not to improve themselves and immerse more into their hobbies and entertainment. Of course this is all just from commentary I've read from other's testimony and can't verify it's authenticity. There's this article (sorry I don't know how to change the link text) www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-video-games-jobs-emploment-20160923-story.html that takes about able bodied men who choose not to work, or work minimally and would rather stay home and play video games. It at least as has statistics to back the article. There's also articles like this www.psychologytoday.com/blog/living-single/201605/why-are-so-many-young-adults-living-their-parents that point to the trend that adults are more and more living with their parents rather than seeking a romantic partner and/or getting married. The trend that seems to vibe with both the parents of these adult children as well as the adult children. Something that many of us here, since most of you are even older than me, would see as a big change in society. While my parents never pushed me out of the house, and I moved out at 20, I could never think of living with my parents unless they couldn't care for themselves. My brother in law's brother was like the only example I can think of where he stayed with parents well into his 30's before he got married. It is some interesting things to consider when estimating what is it that is bringing adults to spend more to all their time doing "non-adult" things. At least to the point of where the NEET term was coined. To the OP, naw, I have no care what people think of my hobbies, outside of my wife and kids. As long as they know they are loved and I spend time with them just as much as I spend doing stuff I want to for myself, I am good.
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 18, 2017 11:12:46 GMT -5
Am I personally insulted by the stereotype? No, although I recognize myself in some minor aspects. When you're paid to write books about comic book history, you really have no choice but to embrace your geekitude. My family and friends know there's a whole lot more to me than that, and theirs is the only opinion I give two figs about.
Cei-U! Mmmmm, figs!
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Post by The Captain on Aug 18, 2017 13:01:04 GMT -5
I'm absolutely a geek, with my comics reading and Magic: The Gathering playing and Dr. Who/GoT/Flash/Supernatual/other genre TV watching and Funko Pop figure collecting and obsessive knowledge about most of those topics having.
On the flip side, I've been married for 15 years, have two kids, serve as an Elder at my church, have led Bible studies, have coached youth soccer, and work in a role that requires me to interact with others on a daily basis.
I embrace who I am, all aspects of it, gladly. Other people want to make fun of me for it or stereotype me, they aren't worth my time worrying about, because I'm too busy leading a full and fulfilling life.
Oh, and my older daughter, who turns 12 in three months, is coming along quite nicely in her geekdom as well, while also being an athlete, musician, and active in both church and secular organizations. She just does her thing, and I couldn't be more proud of her confidence in who she is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 15:52:34 GMT -5
That is an outdated and never really accurate generalization. The are so many social and economic issues I could point out here but I will spare you that bit.
That being said, humans are a diverse species and in being so, we live in such a time where we have the privilege of having both leisure time and disposable income. We all spend both differently. Some people do sports, some people travel and some people read comics and all that comes with it. As far as what to do with our leisure time and disposable income, comics and the like, are a pretty good way to go IMO. Comics are culturally relevant and as we all know, sometimes more financially advantageous to other hobbies.
We all know the stereo type "comic book guy/gal" and we all probably know someone who is actually like him/her. But most of us also probably know people who are nothing like them and are even just as serious about comics as they are. I personally know doctors, executives, builders, athletes, actors, (and the list goes on) who all collect comics and embrace "the scene".
Someone once asked my mum when I was younger if she thought it was healthy that I spent so much time and money concerning comics and the sci/fy fantasy scene. And she always replied that I could just as easily be spending my money on drugs/drink and running around with trouble makers. She thought my interests in them was a blessing because they kept me out of trouble and they fed my creative nature.
Comics and the like aren't for everyone, nor should they be IMO. Sadly, people who don't "get them" will try to dismiss both them and the people who are into them and thus ugly stereotypes come about. But all you have to do it look at the BILLIONS of dollars the comic book universe is generating to understand how many people really love them and support them. If that makes me a geek so be it. But I am one very happy geek.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Aug 18, 2017 17:25:11 GMT -5
I wonder how accurate those stereotypes are?
Maybe I've just spend too much time on the internet -
Not here, you guys are great -
But there are definitely a bunch of comic fans who seem to be working from an infantile mindset - just constantly scared of swjs or whatever- or almost completely divorced from reality. Adults (and I count myself among them) who still put a lot of time and effort into consuming juvenile power fantasies - and I think 99% of superhero comics, even today, are still juvenile power fantasies - might be less capable of functioning as grown ups than the general population.
On a personal level - being way into Spider-man at my age probably means I'm kind of $%^^ed-up.
Comic fans are probably smarter than average, though?
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Aug 18, 2017 20:43:26 GMT -5
I embrace the nerd stereotype. I find my version to be uniquely different though. I am younger but have an affinity for comics that are older than 1990....preferable stuff from the 60s and 70s. I collect only comics and a few toys...I do not geek out like some people about movies or TV shows. I would not be the type to dress up at a con (if and when I am ever able to attend one) but that does not mean I don't appreciate or respect those who are "nerdier" or of a different nerd level/genre than myself.
Whether you worship Star Trek or Star Wars....whether you love My Little Pony....whether you live at home with your parents or your girlfriends parents or perhaps have your own place....whether you like watching "anime" or whatever else....just own it. I can respect that because as long as it is not hurting others and is legal, people can enjoy whatever they like. And I like learning from other nerds about what it is they enjoy!
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Post by Spike-X on Aug 19, 2017 6:21:58 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks I'm like that just because I read comics doesn't know me. And if they don't know me, why should I give a heck what they think?
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 19, 2017 6:40:20 GMT -5
It's interesting to note that maybe the world's first exposure to "Nerd and geek" as applied to Movies, might be the SNL appearance by William Shatner where he told convention goers to get a life. I'm thinking that the Comic book guy , from the Simpsons , did the same damage for comic fans.
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Post by Outrajs on Aug 19, 2017 7:56:21 GMT -5
Now that comics are so mainstream I'm not sure how widespread that stereotype is any more. I'd say people who still buy into it are just ignorant and not worth paying any attention to. I'm finally old enough to not really care what people think anyway. I don't know why you equate anime with porn though. There is some pornographic anime of course but in Japan animation is just another medium to tell any kind of story. It's just another stereotype. My sister is big into it and all she ever hear about is that it's Japanese porn. I'm just mixing stereotypes here.
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