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Post by the4thpip on Jul 18, 2014 8:22:39 GMT -5
With Martine de Schutter the first person I knew personally from conferences has been confirmed dead in MH17 crash. She was an awesome activist.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 8:43:03 GMT -5
Is it possible to post on this forum without joining? I can't imagine how.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 9:43:48 GMT -5
It appears that some, and maybe up to 100 of the passengers who perished on MH17 were on their way to the international AIDS conference in Australia. The one I would likely have gone to if I had not lost my job in the government's HIV office last September. So I might have been on that plane, and I likely know the 4 Germans who died and maybe some of the Dutch. That sucks man, glad you weren't on that plane though.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 18, 2014 9:49:17 GMT -5
It appears that some, and maybe up to 100 of the passengers who perished on MH17 were on their way to the international AIDS conference in Australia. The one I would likely have gone to if I had not lost my job in the government's HIV office last September. So I might have been on that plane, and I likely know the 4 Germans who died and maybe some of the Dutch. I am so sorry. This is beyond disturbing news to begin with, but when its people you knew and worked with...I can't imagine. How are you holding up?
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Post by shaxper on Jul 18, 2014 9:50:52 GMT -5
Is it possible to post on this forum without joining? Nope, but you can view it. We get something like 350 guests per day, and I'd imagine the reason those guests don't join is that they don't have anything to say in response to what they are reading yet. LR didn't post very often back in the day. I have to admit, though, that I've been toying with offering him a place here for discussing his Seduction of the Indifferent articles much like we've done with The Comics Cube.
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Post by paulie on Jul 18, 2014 9:53:49 GMT -5
With Martine de Schutter the first person I knew personally from conferences has been confirmed dead in MH17 crash. She was an awesome activist. Warm regards and condolences.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 18, 2014 9:57:27 GMT -5
But you never get used to it... Death. Sometimes there are no words to describe the shock and horror one feels. The invention of global news coverage came with it this price that humanity has never really figured out how to pay. Do we grieve constantly for the wrongful deaths that occur daily throughout the world, or do we numb ourselves to it? Why do we grieve more for some wrongful deaths than others? I still don't understand why the news circuits spent months on that missing Malaysian airliner when so many other horrible deaths due to war, terrorism, oppressive regimes, rampant crime, and sexual assaults were happening elsewhere each day. In short, I've never figured out how to deal with this sort of thing either.
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Post by the4thpip on Jul 18, 2014 11:15:55 GMT -5
It appears that some, and maybe up to 100 of the passengers who perished on MH17 were on their way to the international AIDS conference in Australia. The one I would likely have gone to if I had not lost my job in the government's HIV office last September. So I might have been on that plane, and I likely know the 4 Germans who died and maybe some of the Dutch. I am so sorry. This is beyond disturbing news to begin with, but when its people you knew and worked with...I can't imagine. How are you holding up? I just went over the entire passenger list and was relieved to find that I M artine remained the only one I knew. Still, she is a big loss to the community and the fight against AIDS.
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Post by impulse on Jul 18, 2014 11:26:50 GMT -5
Ugh, so sorry to hear about that. How tragic.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 18, 2014 11:45:13 GMT -5
I am so sorry. This is beyond disturbing news to begin with, but when its people you knew and worked with...I can't imagine. How are you holding up? I just went over the entire passenger list and was relieved to find that I M artine remained the only one I knew. Still, she is a big loss to the community and the fight against AIDS. Good people, doing good work, lost to a senseless act of war. I wish it were more unusual. Condolences, Pip, and to all who lost friends, colleagues, and loved ones.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 12:42:20 GMT -5
No, that would be if I deleted all the threads and reset the board Honestly, I'm really not happy that there have been so many flare-ups here in the last three days...REALLY unhappy, but it's not one or two specific individuals. It's new members having preferences very different from those shared by most here, and both sides lacking tact and civility in discussing their differing viewpoints. Some of my favorite memories of this community were times when I got into an epic debate with another member. We'd throw everything we had at each other, get a little red in the face, but always remain respectful and continue to move the conversation forward, never simply dismissing the other's opinion or reiterating our own ad nauseum. I made some of my first and best friends here through those kinds of debates: Cei-U!, Captain Jim, even thwhtguardian and I met on opposite sides of a Grant Morrison debate. We're taking opportunities to learn from each other and earn each other's respect, and trading those opportunities in for bickering that degrades this entire community. We're better than this. All of us. I'm not going to single folks out anymore. A lot of us walked the line and flirted with shades of gray in how we conducted ourselves in these discussions. Those of you who didn't make the best choices know who you are, and if you don't like how the other guy is talking to you, take a deep breath, walk away, come back, and politely tell him so -- like an "adult" (and yes, that's a specific nod to a moment that made me particularly unhappy). Wait, we're having issues here already? I don't even know what is going on. I'm surprised we can't all just get along here. Everyone I've come across has seemed civil. I guess that was the same at the CBR boards too though. I just wasn't around and involved enough. We owe a heck of a lot to shaxper for getting this community up and running as fast as he did. Without him, we'd be running around like headless chickens, or worse yet...still stuck at the "new" old forum. Not only has he re-established a home for the "old" classic comic members, but for new ones as well, and I applaud the moves he and others have been making in creating a more accessible site for other comic fans. We have the ability to be the "go-to" web domain on all things classic comics, and I believe I'm not alone in saying I value the passion and wealth of knowledge from all of our forum members in this hobby. That said, I've seen more than a few new faces pop up this past week, in particular the gentlemen from Comics Cube, which is an insightful site offering a wealth of information about all things comics. They should feel more than welcome here, whether or not they share the same opinions. But I noticed that Comics Cube contributor backissueben deleted his forum account after some sort of disagreement in the Quesada thread, after only about a week of joining this board. This is nothing short of embarrassing as a community, and a slap in the face to shaxper as well, who had just invited backissueben to the boards. I hope he considers coming back, and we should be more welcoming of new faces and opinions that may or may not be foreign to us. 4thpip, the MH17 tragedy sounds so close to home. My heart goes out to all of those that passed and their family members, especially the children. Welcome back zryson!
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Post by shaxper on Jul 18, 2014 12:44:01 GMT -5
Thanks, Brian.
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 18, 2014 13:45:47 GMT -5
I am so sorry. This is beyond disturbing news to begin with, but when its people you knew and worked with...I can't imagine. How are you holding up? I just went over the entire passenger list and was relieved to find that I M artine remained the only one I knew. Still, she is a big loss to the community and the fight against AIDS. My condolences Pip. What a horrible terrorist act. My thoughts are with you my friend.
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 18, 2014 13:47:32 GMT -5
We all echo Brian's sentiments I think and thank Shaxper for the time and effort he's put into putting together our new home.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 14:10:54 GMT -5
But I noticed that Comics Cube contributor backissueben deleted his forum account after some sort of disagreement in the Quesada thread, after only about a week of joining this board. This is nothing short of embarrassing as a community, and a slap in the face to shaxper as well, who had just invited backissueben to the boards. Yeah, it's a shame he's gone, I would have just told him to use the ignore function as I do if there's someone you'd rather not waste time on. I was wondering how his posts were showing up as 0, but just realised where the 'delete' button is. You don't need to be a member to read what's going on, so if ben is lurking out there, come on back in.
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