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Post by paulie on Jul 23, 2014 8:59:13 GMT -5
My two cents on Shooter has always been as follows: He's brilliant in many respects and is a favorite writer of mine, but he makes for a terrible editor. At virtually every job he's ever had, he's managed to piss off all his colleagues and alienate himself. I think the problem is that Shooter often does know best and doesn't know how not to say so. Even the editorial mandates of his that didn't work out probably would have worked out if Shooter had been writing those titles, but he was a micro-manager and didn't afford creators the freedom and dignity they needed with which to be productive (even if Shooter's ideas often were good ones). Even the oft-mocked grounding of Thor mandate, making him abandon the whole Norse mythology bit in order to be a Manhattan superhero, COULD have worked under the right writer. In many ways, it could have been akin to what Kirby tried to do by grounding the Silver Surfer, but it doesn't work when you're imposing it upon a writer who doesn't share your vision. While it's impossible to totally nail Shooter this isn't bad. The man's forgotten more about how to produce comics than most of his colleagues had ever learned. He did last 9 years on the job. What I don't think is fleshed out enough is that he was a DC guy using that method at Marvel. The same accusations above could have been leveled at Mort Weisinger or Julie Schwartz.
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Post by berkley on Jul 23, 2014 22:30:51 GMT -5
I agree with the idea of him being a DC guy bringing a DC vision of how comics should be done to Marvel - and that helped killed Marvel as a creative force in comics. It would have been interesting to see him at DC, but as shaxper noted, probably better as a writer even there - I can't imagine someone like Alan Moore lasting more than a day with Shooter as editor-in-chief.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 0:26:52 GMT -5
I agree with the idea of him being a DC guy bringing a DC vision of how comics should be done to Marvel - and that helped killed Marvel as a creative force in comics. It would have been interesting to see him at DC, but as shaxper noted, probably better as a writer even there - I can't imagine someone like Alan Moore lasting more than a day with Shooter as editor-in-chief. This is Shooter wrestling with Moore's Serpent god Avatar as they vie for creative control of the titles Moore works on.... it certainly would have made the behind the scenes articles about the DC offices of the 80s more interesting than the comics they produced.... -M
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jul 24, 2014 4:59:07 GMT -5
The big mystery in New York City this morning was who and why did someone plant white flags on the Brooklyn Bridge towers,replacing the American flags.And with permanent security men at the Bridge,who fell asleep and let it happen.Security cameras might reveal something Did we surrender Brooklyn today? Or are these homing signals for visiting time travellers? Just had to put it in my head again. Sigh.
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Post by zryson on Jul 24, 2014 9:11:20 GMT -5
Was in a low mood yesterday due to a cold I have come down with, so visited some bookstores. Ended up buying a stack of Superman kids books, some of which I will keep and some which I will give to charity. Also bought a computer magazine to read; its amazing but a little scary too, how far technology has advanced in recent years.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 24, 2014 11:54:16 GMT -5
Was in a low mood yesterday due to a cold I have come down with, so visited some bookstores. Ended up buying a stack of Superman kids books, some of which I will keep and some which I will give to charity. Also bought a computer magazine to read; its amazing but a little scary too, how far technology has advanced in recent years. No need to panic. The computer overlords have it all well in hand. Please report to your nearest ATM for "re-education". That is all.
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Post by impulse on Jul 24, 2014 13:25:13 GMT -5
Wow, I just got an awful loud auto play video ad on this site for...women's undergarments? Huh? This is the first time I've gotten a super invasive ad here, and I can't see any way to turn it off short of closing the page or turning off my sound. I listen to music on the computer while I work, so that's not great.
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Post by the4thpip on Jul 24, 2014 13:40:17 GMT -5
Wow, I just got an awful loud auto play video ad on this site for...women's undergarments? Huh? This is the first time I've gotten a super invasive ad here, and I can't see any way to turn it off short of closing the page or turning off my sound. I listen to music on the computer while I work, so that's not great. It's those kinds of things why I use adblock. I see the need for pages to raise revenue with ads, but trying to read the news at Der Spiegel's spiegel.de gives me a headache without adblock. So many different animated ads on one page, sometimes one of them with sound... I just cannot do it.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 24, 2014 13:44:52 GMT -5
Wow, I just got an awful loud auto play video ad on this site for...women's undergarments? Huh? This is the first time I've gotten a super invasive ad here, and I can't see any way to turn it off short of closing the page or turning off my sound. I listen to music on the computer while I work, so that's not great. I'm surprised by this as I've never had an ad on any proboards site (including this one) play a full streaming video nor make sound. Is it possible you've got malware? If not, I'd report this directly to the proboards support forum: support.proboards.com/board/44/support-board
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 13:45:56 GMT -5
Do companies know when people are using AdBlock?
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Post by shaxper on Jul 24, 2014 13:47:30 GMT -5
It's those kinds of things why I use adblock. I see the need for pages to raise revenue with ads, but trying to read the news at Der Spiegel's spiegel.de gives me a headache without adblock. So many different animated ads on one page, sometimes one of them with sound... I just cannot do it. One of the reasons I went with proboards for hosting this site is that I think their use of ads is tasteful and restrained. I don't use an ad blocker, and I never find their ads invasive. I'm also always intentional about clicking on ads that have any interest for me, as it then allows the software to fine tune and provide you with ads that you're more likely to find informative. Most free sites barrage you with really intrusive advertising. One small banner at the top, and one small banner at the bottom, with an option to get rid of them completely if you pay $6 a month (which, by the way, any user here is able to pay) is a pretty good deal for the service with which they are providing us.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 24, 2014 14:00:58 GMT -5
Was in a low mood yesterday due to a cold I have come down with, so visited some bookstores. Ended up buying a stack of Superman kids books, some of which I will keep and some which I will give to charity. Also bought a computer magazine to read; its amazing but a little scary too, how far technology has advanced in recent years. No need to panic. The computer overlords have it all well in hand. Please report to your nearest ATM for "re-education". That is all. And DE for one welcomes our computer overlords. As a trusted IT personality he can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their office cubicles.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 24, 2014 14:18:25 GMT -5
No need to panic. The computer overlords have it all well in hand. Please report to your nearest ATM for "re-education". That is all. And DE for one welcomes our computer overlords. As a trusted IT personality he can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their office cubicles. Finally someone gets it. I'm like Benny in the Mummy movie. As long as I'm working for them, I'm immune. All hail Google!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 14:35:45 GMT -5
You can always be warded off, though, with bananas, much like vampires & garlic.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 24, 2014 14:44:42 GMT -5
And DE for one welcomes our computer overlords. As a trusted IT personality he can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their office cubicles. Finally someone gets it. I'm like Benny in the Mummy movie. As long as I'm working for them, I'm immune. All hail Google!! Don't blame me I voted for Bing.
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