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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 30, 2014 12:39:08 GMT -5
The older I grow in this country the more I see the direction this country takes as a whole (and newer generations can be in danger of picking up) is the complete lack of respect for anything that isn't "American" as if we have the patent on any new concept socially, politically, or religiously. It's all for show. Sure you don't get physically tortured or abused or killed for being ... fill in the blank. It's all recycled and been done. Hundreds if nations in history have tried it all. It's nothing new. It's human behavior. But there's certainly no air of tolerance for anything that isn't "American". And what's "American" is right and for some extremist righteous.
Sure it maybe jokes from stand up comedians, but with most of that being observational humor they have to be getting their material from sonewhere. It's not as if the US is a tyranny by any means but it's not right in the world scheme just because it's the US. And as a society a tendency to expound this idea rather than absorb the world scene and better ourselves, or at the very least, educate ourselves, we continue with this idea of American perfection and power. But then I'm sure Rome, Persia, Assyria, Babylon, etc did too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 16:08:37 GMT -5
In general these days, people are far less comfortable with conversations and differing perspectives. Debates always turn hostile, as does any attempt to broaden a person's perspective. Die in a fire.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 30, 2014 16:26:35 GMT -5
Everything in this thread has been wrong. Everything. End of debate
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 18:31:13 GMT -5
The older I grow in this country the more I see the direction this country takes as a whole (and newer generations can be in danger of picking up) is the complete lack of respect for anything that isn't "American" as if we have the patent on any new concept socially, politically, or religiously. It's all for show. Sure you don't get physically tortured or abused or killed for being ... fill in the blank. It's all recycled and been done. Hundreds if nations in history have tried it all. It's nothing new. It's human behavior. But there's certainly no air of tolerance for anything that isn't "American". And what's "American" is right and for some extremist righteous. Sure it maybe jokes from stand up comedians, but with most of that being observational humor they have to be getting their material from sonewhere. It's not as if the US is a tyranny by any means but it's not right in the world scheme just because it's the US. And as a society a tendency to expound this idea rather than absorb the world scene and better ourselves, or at the very least, educate ourselves, we continue with this idea of American perfection and power. But then I'm sure Rome, Persia, Assyria, Babylon, etc did too. I see this attitude, but I mostly see it with the older crowd, and not universally. If you disagree with them it's "Love it or leave it" and "Why do you hate America?" But when it's something they disagree with it's "Don't tread on me", "Impeach", and "Stock up on ammo for the revolution!"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 18:46:39 GMT -5
I was thinking today about how things have changed over the years. One of them is the Internet. The web is a much more volatile environment these days compared to previous years. It means those on the darker side of that which is usually brightly lit can have websites too until they're (legally) pulled down. One that has surprised me the most features videos of genuine snuff murders, usually of members of rival drug cartels. Humanity can be downright evil...and yet sometimes there's no way to believe it until the evidence is seen with your own eyes.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 30, 2014 19:51:38 GMT -5
Someone tricked me into watching one telling me it was a movie trailer. I watched about 60 seconds before I turned away realizing this is real. It hasn't and probably never will leave my brain. I can't even stand fictional movies that may feature similar violence as what I saw. It is evil. Not like the BS Omen or Exorsist stuff. True, pure evil what some perpetrate on others.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 30, 2014 20:26:49 GMT -5
The older I grow in this country the more I see the direction this country takes as a whole (and newer generations can be in danger of picking up) is the complete lack of respect for anything that isn't "American" as if we have the patent on any new concept socially, politically, or religiously. It's all for show. Sure you don't get physically tortured or abused or killed for being ... fill in the blank. It's all recycled and been done. Hundreds if nations in history have tried it all. It's nothing new. It's human behavior. But there's certainly no air of tolerance for anything that isn't "American". And what's "American" is right and for some extremist righteous. Sure it maybe jokes from stand up comedians, but with most of that being observational humor they have to be getting their material from sonewhere. It's not as if the US is a tyranny by any means but it's not right in the world scheme just because it's the US. And as a society a tendency to expound this idea rather than absorb the world scene and better ourselves, or at the very least, educate ourselves, we continue with this idea of American perfection and power. But then I'm sure Rome, Persia, Assyria, Babylon, etc did too. I see this attitude, but I mostly see it with the older crowd, and not universally. If you disagree with them it's "Love it or leave it" and "Why do you hate America?" But when it's something they disagree with it's "Don't tread on me", "Impeach", and "Stock up on ammo for the revolution!" Exactly. There's no middle ground, no tolerance, no liberty and freedom for all. There's a mold to be filled to be a "model" American. Which I think really shows a lack of growth and global awareness for the country that is the present (and that's teetering as it is) the symbol of power in the world. And when it does come crashing down on us, I'm sure most will be like ... huh?
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Post by Pharozonk on Jul 30, 2014 20:30:14 GMT -5
Someone tricked me into watching one telling me it was a movie trailer. I watched about 60 seconds before I turned away realizing this is real. It hasn't and probably never will leave my brain. I can't even stand fictional movies that may feature similar violence as what I saw. It is evil. Not like the BS Omen or Exorsist stuff. True, pure evil what some perpetrate on others. If they tricked you into it, did you at least give them a piece of your mind?
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 30, 2014 21:00:10 GMT -5
Well at the moment after I really couldn't utter words. Cinema cannot duplicate life. But eventually yes I said my piece but I think then I couldn't be angry. The images I saw in that 60 seconds were horrific to say the least. In a way I felt that I had grown some in understanding humanity. What that coworker did at the time (whatever his intentions were in showing me it) brought me to the conclusion that I don't think we evolved from apes, apes devolved into us. (Yes I know that's a very pessimistic generalization but you didn't see what I saw.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 0:02:31 GMT -5
I grew up in an area just north of the border on a major highway and there has always been organized crime there involving drugs. When I was a kid it was mostly garbage ditch weed they sold for $300 a pound and nobody was really afraid of them. We'd fight at the bus stop after school sometimes for fun. Then meth manufacture went from a local thing to a south of the border thing. They started manufacturing it so pure and selling it so cheap a cook could only compete with their prices if he shoplifted everything, and that just isn't a long term plan. So there's almost no local drug manufacture anymore, and those drug runners have major money and are scary as hell. I watched some of the beheading videos and couldn't believe we used to fight at the bus stop. Anyway, a lot of narco corridos have been written about that town. The most famous narco corrido singer who ever lived got famous while working the fields in that town.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jul 31, 2014 5:43:33 GMT -5
Whoa did not know we had a new section on the forum now. Why the change?
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Post by mrc1214 on Jul 31, 2014 8:19:46 GMT -5
Whoa did not know we had a new section on the forum now. Why the change? So that the comic discussion is separated from the off topic. There were a lot of off topic threads in the comic section so I believe Shax thought it would be better to make another section. It was a good choice in my opinion.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 31, 2014 10:41:07 GMT -5
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jul 31, 2014 11:28:14 GMT -5
I see. Thanks for the information.
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Post by superecwfan1 on Jul 31, 2014 19:08:06 GMT -5
So I went to post an update for my Changes from the DCU in the Flashpoint thread. The forum weirdly cut the entire piece except for the final part. No clue why. I had to delete it and will do it later. lol
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