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Post by the4thpip on Aug 4, 2014 1:00:15 GMT -5
I liked the Thor movies for their almost Shakespearian family drama surrounding Loki.
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Post by zryson on Aug 4, 2014 3:41:37 GMT -5
Will the overwhelming success of Guardians of the Galaxy help Warner Bros to take more risk with their superhero movies? I think looking at what they have released over this century that they feel that the tone established in the Nolan Batman universe was the way to proceed since that's the only thing which resonated on a deep level with audiences and critics. What is awesome about Marvel is they are willing to take risk, to rise to the challenge and not only succeed with them but once more change the nature of the superhero market by turn and audience's expectations.
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Post by Pharozonk on Aug 4, 2014 9:11:00 GMT -5
But if you didn't like Avengers, I have very strong doubts you will like Guardians of the Galaxy. The fun meter is cranked to 11. Substance optional. I thought GOTG had a lot of heart too. The opening scene was pretty powerful and when Star Lord opens the box at the end, I would be lying if it didn't pull at my heartstrings a bit.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 4, 2014 9:11:19 GMT -5
which is more than I could say for Iron Man 3, which was good but not fun. I think they took being serious too seriously. I agree. It was a weirdly unbalanced film that tried too hard to be about something at first, and then tried to make up with it via excessive fluff at the climax. I didn't enjoy the film; I just note that it tried to be about something. Sounds like I need to see Winter Soldier.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 4, 2014 9:11:44 GMT -5
But if you didn't like Avengers, I have very strong doubts you will like Guardians of the Galaxy. The fun meter is cranked to 11. Substance optional. (spoiler) Spoiler tags, man. Spoiler tags.
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Post by Pharozonk on Aug 4, 2014 9:14:48 GMT -5
Spoiler tags, man. Spoiler tags. Whoops! My mistake. How do I add spoiler tags?
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Post by shaxper on Aug 4, 2014 9:17:20 GMT -5
Spoiler tags, man. Spoiler tags. Whoops! My mistake. How do I add spoiler tags? No problem. You just do (spoiler)big reveal from the film(/spoiler), but with brackets instead of parenthesis. Example: Thanos wears boxer shorts with little red hearts on them
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Post by Pharozonk on Aug 4, 2014 9:20:15 GMT -5
Whoops! My mistake. How do I add spoiler tags? No problem. You just do (spoiler)big reveal from the film(/spoiler), but with brackets instead of parenthesis. Example: Thanos wears boxer shorts with little red hearts on them Fixed!
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Post by impulse on Aug 4, 2014 9:40:49 GMT -5
which is more than I could say for Iron Man 3, which was good but not fun. I think they took being serious too seriously. I agree. It was a weirdly unbalanced film that tried too hard to be about something at first, and then tried to make up with it via excessive fluff at the climax. I didn't enjoy the film; I just note that it tried to be about something. Sounds like I need to see Winter Soldier. Yeah, Iron Man 3 was a mess. I think it struggled being the first solo film to follow Avengers, and I didn't think they segued well there. And while I enjoyed the Ben Kingsley's Mandarin hoax thing, I think I really would have preferred the movie the trailers teased at, that being the Mandarin being a legitimate threat and powerful terrorist. I enjoyed the joke for what it was, but I think I would have liked the straight version better. That plus a few other nitpicks really brought this one down a few notches for me. But, yes, you really should see Winter Soldier. It's arguably my favorite of the Marvel movies depending on what day of the week you ask me.
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 4, 2014 9:57:24 GMT -5
I agree with Shax re the character development. I watched the Avengers a second time and to be honest, I felt most of the "interaction" between characters was just marking time between set pieces. And the set pieces were cool and all, but even those, after a while, get predictable. How many times can the Earth be saved?
These kinds of movies are all about the special effects. I'll watch Guardians when it comes on Netflix or cable, and I'll enjoy it, based on what everyone is saying, but will I really want to see it again? I feel the same about the LOTR trilogy. I was never a Tolkien reader, but enjoyed the films. Once. The last two seemed like just long battle scenes that became increasingly less believable. I didn't care who "died," because I was very aware that virtually all the characters were virtual.
Meanwhile, I have watched movies like The Iron Giant and The Rocketeer, and all of the Indiana Joneses (so glad they stopped at three) often and still find them satisfying and rewarding.
I did enjoy the first Captain America movie, too (is it a Joe Johnston thing?), because it seemed more believable. I cared about Rogers. They caught the Zeitgeist of Cap's era. Wouldn't you love to see a similarly styled Batman movie, with a noir, forties Gotham? Maybe the problem is that superheroes are not as believable in a contemporary context?
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Post by shaxper on Aug 4, 2014 10:00:37 GMT -5
and all of the Indiana Joneses (so glad they stopped at three)
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 4, 2014 10:01:59 GMT -5
and all of the Indiana Joneses (so glad they stopped at three) So glad they only did three Star Wars, too. The bloom was off the Death Star by the third.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 4, 2014 10:04:02 GMT -5
So glad they only did three Star Wars, too. The bloom was off the Death Star by the third. Well, two and a half Star Wars films to be precise. I still wonder what it would have looked like had Return of the Jedi been finished. What alien threat (or ally) would they have found on that forest moon of Endor. I guess we'll never know...
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 4, 2014 10:09:13 GMT -5
So glad they only did three Star Wars, too. The bloom was off the Death Star by the third. Well, two and a half Star Wars films to be precise. I still wonder what it would have looked like had Return of the Jedi been finished. What alien threat (or ally) would they have found on that forest moon of Endor. I guess we'll never know... So true. I've heard that Lucas was going to make some kind of marketing deal with the Teddy Ruxpin people, so I left just before that part myself.
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Post by paulie on Aug 4, 2014 10:56:51 GMT -5
I thought Guardians of the Galaxy was fair to good. It was not even close to very good. My major problem was the overall pitch of the movie. The shifts between what was supposed to be serious and what was supposed to be funny were terribly mishandled. Some of the fault lies with the director but I thought his action scenes were easy to follow and he moved the plot speedily along. So the blame lays in the badly miscast male lead. Talk about not born to play a part.
Rocket Raccoon actually worked for me and Ronan, arguably, looks closest to his comics counterpart out of all the characters that have appeared in the Marvel movies to this point.
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