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Post by tartanphantom on Apr 8, 2022 9:34:52 GMT -5
I hate how the word “rare” is misused. On occasion, I see a pic of Lyle Waggoner as Batman (usually on Facebook), with the caption “Rare photo”. Well it isn’t rare in 2022, given the amount of times it’s been shared online. To me, something would be rare if one book, long out of print, had published that photo. I also feel that the word is misused when it comes to discussions of LPs. Some seem to think that “multiple copies which attract a high price” means rare, but it doesn’t, surely? It means unavailable or inaccessible to the ordinary person with a limited income. According to Record Collector, the world’s rarest record is That’ll Be The Day/In Spite Of All The Danger by The Quarrymen. There’s one copy in existence, owned by Paul McCartney. That certainly counts as rare, but if there are multiple copies of something, even if they attract a huge sum, that isn’t rare.
Unfortunately, the word "rare" is often confused and conflated alongside the term "valuable". In reality, these terms are technically mutually exclusive.
As we already know, "demand" has a more direct correlation to "value"... "rarity" does not.
Rarity and scarcity will often follow demand, (the toilet paper drought, the saltine cracker drought), but aside from that the terms are meaningless except to those people hunting such items.
Anybody can create a "rare" one-of-a-kind item, but without realized demand, the correlation to value is simply not there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2022 10:05:49 GMT -5
I prefer medium well to rare. But to each their own tastes.
As for usage of rare in terms of scarcity, well usage evolves over time and words come to mean what the consensus thinks they mean. For example, bad-ass started as an insult, meaning fake tough, a poser who acted touch to hide weakness or cowardice. That's not what the consensus thinks it means any more, so its meaning and usage has evolved over time to mean something completely different. That's just the way language works on a long-term scale. Usage in the short term can be incorrect, but if over time the incorrect usage becomes the norm than what is correct usage evolves to become how people actually use the word.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2022 10:34:29 GMT -5
I prefer medium well to rare. But to each their own tastes. As for usage of rare in terms of scarcity, well usage evolves over time and words come to mean what the consensus thinks they mean. For example, bad-ass started as an insult, meaning fake tough, a poser who acted touch to hide weakness or cowardice. That's not what the consensus thinks it means any more, so its meaning and usage has evolved over time to mean something completely different. That's just the way language works on a long-term scale. Usage in the short term can be incorrect, but if over time the incorrect usage becomes the norm than what is correct usage evolves to become how people actually use the word. -M Sure, and that all makes sense. My brain is kind of wired towards the coin collecting world that long ago fairly broadly adopted terminology with "scarce" gradations of census populations being lower than "common", and then the "rare" gradations being the lowest of all. It just kind of stuck with me as a logical way to separate things out, but of course no reason for everyone else to have that same concept.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2022 10:47:27 GMT -5
tartanphantom - your comments also reminded me of something else, and I'm going to add a point on "instant scarcity/rarity" versus those that evolve over extended periods of time. I don't consider say a very low print variant cover issue of a modern comic book actually a rarity (and again, this is just my interpretation, not remotely suggesting everyone should think this way). A "limited run" collectible can meet the criteria for even significant demand over supply, but that's an architected population. Not knocking it for what it is, and can fully understand why people still use the word "rare" from a technical census standpoint. But the low census is from the start, it's a known attribute and more about new product sales. I find the preservation of historical artifacts more in the spirit of how I consider "rarity"...how many still exist, how many have been accounted for, what do we know of the original details, condition, etc. As Belloq said in Raiders of the Lost Ark: "Look at this. It's worthless - ten dollars from a vendor in the street. But I take it, I bury it in the sand for a thousand years, it becomes priceless." Perhaps a more "romantic" notion of rarity, but again one that is more my personal take.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 8, 2022 16:27:42 GMT -5
I prefer medium well to rare. But to each their own tastes. As for usage of rare in terms of scarcity, well usage evolves over time and words come to mean what the consensus thinks they mean. For example, bad-ass started as an insult, meaning fake tough, a poser who acted touch to hide weakness or cowardice. That's not what the consensus thinks it means any more, so its meaning and usage has evolved over time to mean something completely different. That's just the way language works on a long-term scale. Usage in the short term can be incorrect, but if over time the incorrect usage becomes the norm than what is correct usage evolves to become how people actually use the word. -M I prefer well done. I like to be sure my food is dead and knows it!
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 8, 2022 16:31:46 GMT -5
The bank struck again!
New card arrived, activated it at the bank, then tried to use it at the nearby grocery store and it was declined, both as a credit and entering the PIN for debit. Right back to the bank and a phone call to the card department. They showed the card as expired. It was just issued , with an expiration date more than a year in the future!
I know time is relative; but that would boggle Einstein!
Got it fixed, though, which is why I prefer dealing with human beings, preferably in the same country, and even more preferably face to face. Amazing how well things run when you have adequate staff, in the place they are required. Used to be that way, back when I was a little curmudgeon.
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Post by tartanphantom on Apr 8, 2022 17:34:31 GMT -5
I find the preservation of historical artifacts more in the spirit of how I consider "rarity"...how many still exist, how many have been accounted for, what do we know of the original details, condition, etc. As Belloq said in Raiders of the Lost Ark: "Look at this. It's worthless - ten dollars from a vendor in the street. But I take it, I bury it in the sand for a thousand years, it becomes priceless."Perhaps a more "romantic" notion of rarity, but again one that is more my personal take.
Sorry, I don't have time to discuss this... I've got to go get my shovel so that I can bury my complete run of U.S. 1 and Team America in the back yard...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2022 18:12:37 GMT -5
I find the preservation of historical artifacts more in the spirit of how I consider "rarity"...how many still exist, how many have been accounted for, what do we know of the original details, condition, etc. As Belloq said in Raiders of the Lost Ark: "Look at this. It's worthless - ten dollars from a vendor in the street. But I take it, I bury it in the sand for a thousand years, it becomes priceless."Perhaps a more "romantic" notion of rarity, but again one that is more my personal take.
Sorry, I don't have time to discuss this... I've got to go get my shovel so that I can bury my complete run of U.S. 1 and Team America in the back yard...
Regardless of what happens in a thousand years, you are doing the right thing for the world.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 8, 2022 18:15:57 GMT -5
I find the preservation of historical artifacts more in the spirit of how I consider "rarity"...how many still exist, how many have been accounted for, what do we know of the original details, condition, etc. As Belloq said in Raiders of the Lost Ark: "Look at this. It's worthless - ten dollars from a vendor in the street. But I take it, I bury it in the sand for a thousand years, it becomes priceless."Perhaps a more "romantic" notion of rarity, but again one that is more my personal take.
Sorry, I don't have time to discuss this... I've got to go get my shovel so that I can bury my complete run of U.S. 1 and Team America in the back yard...
Just don't bury anything from Solson, as it would violate laws on toxic waste dumping.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 8, 2022 18:17:27 GMT -5
The little moments in life are the best..... That's Aja (I didn't get to pick the name), aka the Little Maniac, who jumped up on my chair, crawled into my arms and curled up for a nap. Of course, when she was done with her nap, she started biting me on the arm and pawing at my fingers, before jumping down. The vet calls her a Domestic Shorthair; I say she should be classed as a North American Ringtailed Maniac. The older cat, Derek, agrees, though he mostly calls her "The little s@#$!" after he wards off yet another attack. They have a kind of Inspector Clouseau and Cato relationship. She's Cato. I'm pretty certain that I am Chief Inspector Dreyfus. My eye is certainly starting to twitch.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2022 18:41:00 GMT -5
so as of yesterday at ~10:30 am, I'm now fully vaxxed and Double Boosted.
have felt a little shitty today.. .but makes me feel way more secure about going to a Seder next Friday, going to Kings Island for Coasterstock in May, and going to Europe in June.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 8, 2022 19:07:06 GMT -5
so as of yesterday at ~10:30 am, I'm now fully vaxxed and Double Boosted. have felt a little shitty today.. .but makes me feel way more secure about going to a Seder next Friday, going to Kings Island for Coasterstock in May, and going to Europe in June. Yeah, my booster kicked my butt for a day. Mostly just felt extremely fatigued.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2022 14:13:23 GMT -5
I did my tiny part to hopefully slay a monster today. I learned a friend of my kid is allegedly being abused, so spent the last hour at the police station spilling what I heard. Freakin' human race.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2022 14:56:49 GMT -5
I did my tiny part to hopefully slay a monster today. I learned a friend of my kid is allegedly being abused, so spent the last hour at the police station spilling what I heard. Freakin' human race. Good on you! -M
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 10, 2022 7:52:46 GMT -5
Forget Superman/Spider-man or the current Spider-man movie. this is the ultimate crossover.
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