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Post by impulse on Oct 26, 2022 9:23:56 GMT -5
Drinking in bars all day with friends and then listening to music sounds like an awesome day to me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 9:49:56 GMT -5
Is there a word for adopting a hammy accent when pronouncing a foreign word? Even multi-lingual speakers who are fluent in the language the foreign word comes from, and who also are nearly accent-less when speaking English, seem to intentionally lay it on thick.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 27, 2022 9:58:37 GMT -5
Is there a word for adopting a hammy accent when pronouncing a foreign word? Even multi-lingual speakers who are fluent in the language the foreign word comes from, and who also are nearly accent-less when speaking English, seem to intentionally lay it on thick. Madonnaing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 10:15:49 GMT -5
Is there a word for adopting a hammy accent when pronouncing a foreign word? Even multi-lingual speakers who are fluent in the language the foreign word comes from, and who also are nearly accent-less when speaking English, seem to intentionally lay it on thick. Madonnaing. I've called it Trebeking-it-up , but wasn't sure if it was "too soon" to share that.
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Post by impulse on Oct 27, 2022 10:55:07 GMT -5
What's the word?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 27, 2022 15:18:19 GMT -5
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Post by Calidore on Oct 27, 2022 18:53:51 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 19:49:45 GMT -5
Are you asking if there was a certain word that prompted my question? There wasn't. Listen to cable news correspondents, or The Food Channel hosts, of Hispanic descent. They might have a slight accent, except when they pronounce Spanish words, it sounds beyond an accent subconsciously coming out - it sounds like "hey, look how ethnic I am!". And then there's the white guy version that screams "look how worldly I am with my native-speaker-like pronunciation!"
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 27, 2022 20:24:13 GMT -5
Are you asking if there was a certain word that prompted my question? There wasn't. Listen to cable news correspondents, or The Food Channel hosts, of Hispanic descent. They might have a slight accent, except when they pronounce Spanish words, it sounds beyond an accent subconsciously coming out - it sounds like "hey, look how ethnic I am!". And then there's the white guy version that screams "look how worldly I am with my native-speaker-like pronunciation!" You mean, something like this.....
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Post by berkley on Oct 27, 2022 20:32:16 GMT -5
Is there a word for adopting a hammy accent when pronouncing a foreign word? Even multi-lingual speakers who are fluent in the language the foreign word comes from, and who also are nearly accent-less when speaking English, seem to intentionally lay it on thick.
I think there are a few distinctions to be made:
for example, there's difference between someone who doesn't speak the other language in question trying too hard to pronounce it with the accent proper to that language, and someone who does speak it well pronouncng the word that way because it would feel weird to them not to do so.
A friend of mine and I used to chide another friend of ours because he habitually pronounced "Chile" as he would have done when speaking Spanish rather than the usual English way. But I now think he was well within his rights to do so: he did speak Spanish and had in fact done his immersion mostly in that particular country, so it probably just felt wrong to him to say it any other way.
And that brings up another distinction: foreign words that have been assimilated into English so that there is a standard anglicised pronunciation - and this is the case with most names of countries, which is probably what confused us with the case above - and foreign words that have not been so assimilated: the latter I think should be pronounced with at least a metaphorical nod towards the original rather than anglicised right off the bat. But the former can be said in the accepted English manner. There can be a grey area between these two clear-cut aternatives, though, with some foreign words that may be on the way to becoming dictionary-Engish but aren't quite there yet.
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Post by impulse on Oct 28, 2022 9:09:16 GMT -5
Are you asking if there was a certain word that prompted my question? There wasn't. Listen to cable news correspondents, or The Food Channel hosts, of Hispanic descent. They might have a slight accent, except when they pronounce Spanish words, it sounds beyond an accent subconsciously coming out - it sounds like "hey, look how ethnic I am!". And then there's the white guy version that screams "look how worldly I am with my native-speaker-like pronunciation!" Yes, that is what I was trying to ask. Thanks for clarifying. This reminds me of the similar phenomenon where a TV news report or something will be on in a language I don't speak, but a proper English noun is fit in with a typical anglicized accent. The example that springs to mine is an anchor speaking in Spanish and me tuning it out because I don't speak it, and in the middle I hear "COCA COLA" or "MICHAEL JACKSON" and it goes right back into Spanish I don't understand. Just an amusing thing to observe when it happens.
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Post by berkley on Oct 28, 2022 13:21:12 GMT -5
oops, somehow didn't notice that Drake Tungsten had already made the same point I was trying to talk about, and in a much more succinct way!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2022 17:14:19 GMT -5
Are you asking if there was a certain word that prompted my question? There wasn't. Listen to cable news correspondents, or The Food Channel hosts, of Hispanic descent. They might have a slight accent, except when they pronounce Spanish words, it sounds beyond an accent subconsciously coming out - it sounds like "hey, look how ethnic I am!". And then there's the white guy version that screams "look how worldly I am with my native-speaker-like pronunciation!" You mean, something like this..... That is spot on. Apparently, this didn't shame anybody into changing their ways. Which pretty much proves the situation is hopeless, because shame is one of the best teachers there is. I braved reading the Youtube comments. Somebody came up with the term "accent snob" for this. I think it's a good fit.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 29, 2022 6:53:58 GMT -5
My mom passed away this morning. She was 91 and the most beautiful woman I ever knew.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 7:14:17 GMT -5
Oh George, I'm so sorry to hear this My deepest condolences for your loss. 91 years is quite a life lived, and just from your comment I can tell how dear she was to you. May your happiest memories of her outshine your moments of sadness.
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