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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 9, 2023 8:35:56 GMT -5
ps I stopped reading the Book of Revelations after peeking at the ending. Ruined the whole book for me. The butler did it!
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Feb 9, 2023 8:40:03 GMT -5
The angels blow the trumpets before the bowls are emptied as a warning. Mind you I haven't read the Bible in over 20 years but spent my first 20 plus years reading it, so that is just from memory. I have not heard of fallen angels being detained in the river. If I remember the scripture you are referencing it says that the river was dried up when the angel emptied the bowl to "make way for the kings of the East" which was historically fulfilled when Cyrus conquered Babylon by diverting the river so his army could cross.
In a later verse it is done so that the Kings can gather to the place called Armageddon. Then Jesus returns and the battle of Armageddon is fought where the enemies of God are defeated. So a key event of the river drying up is the end times. Take that with a grain of salt since so many Judeo-Christian religions interpret things differently.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 12:22:58 GMT -5
The angels blow the trumpets before the bowls are emptied as a warning. Mind you I haven't read the Bible in over 20 years but spent my first 20 plus years reading it, so that is just from memory. I have not heard of fallen angels being detained in the river.
Here
Revelation 9:14, KJV: Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Feb 9, 2023 13:34:34 GMT -5
The angels blow the trumpets before the bowls are emptied as a warning. Mind you I haven't read the Bible in over 20 years but spent my first 20 plus years reading it, so that is just from memory. I have not heard of fallen angels being detained in the river. Here Revelation 9:14, KJV: Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
I had to look it up myself as I had forgotten this verse. This is one of the interpretations that I found. And honestly it makes sense since these events did occur in the area of the Euphrates. "The region of the Euphrates, where these four angels are bound, has a notorious relationship to human sin. The first murder was committed, presumably, not far from the garden of Eden, in the Euphrates region (Genesis 4:8). The first war confederacy took place in that region (Genesis 14). Nimrod began his kingdom there (Genesis 10:8–12). Babylonian idolatry sprang up in the region and will be judged there (Zechariah 5; Revelation 18)." www.bibleref.com/Revelation/9/Revelation-9-14.html
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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 9, 2023 13:45:00 GMT -5
In my experience, my interest in interacting with a Christian individual or group is inversely proportional to how much they focus on the book of Revelation.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 10, 2023 6:09:45 GMT -5
In my experience, my interest in interacting with a Christian individual or group is inversely proportional to how much they focus on the book of Revelation. I'm a Christian and I believe what Jesus said, " Love your God with all your Heart , Your soul and your Mind and Treat your neighbor as yourself".
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 10, 2023 9:11:16 GMT -5
When my car radio conked out due to the cold weather last week, I couldn't turn it on again without a security code (anti-theft measures, don'tcha know). Naturally, in the case of a second-hand 2008 Civic, such a number has long ago moved away to the cemetery of old numbers.
In the US, the security code can be retrieved online when one provides the car's VIN and the radio's serial number. Not so in Canada, where you have to go to a dealership in person.
I was convinced that it was a way to make a quick buck, but I was wrong... the dealership provided the number for free, without delay, and with a smile.
I regret my initial suspicion! I still think Honda should adopt the US system, but that dealership might get more of my business in the future.
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 10, 2023 9:25:09 GMT -5
My feeling is John had some really good drugs when he wrote Revelations.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 10, 2023 10:39:14 GMT -5
My feeling is John had some really good drugs when he wrote Revelations. I view it as a metaphorical and symbolic text, replete with references that only an initiate would get, rather than as a literary reaction to Patmos fungi. Tangentially, I find the Beast=Nero theory particularly sensible, what with the seven heads being "the seven mountains on which the woman sits" (or words to that effect) and with the Hebrew transliteration of Nero Caesar equating the number 666 when using gematria. Plus, Nero was the first emperor to decide to persecute Christians; they were an excellent scapegoat to give to an angry populace, as they were not very numerous and did not honour the gods. He must have been seen as quite the monster by contemporary Christians, including John. Naturally, opinions can vary!
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 10, 2023 10:49:08 GMT -5
Joking aside. Revelations does read more sensibly as a political polemic than a religious text.
Similar to Dante.
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 10, 2023 12:28:23 GMT -5
Something that happened once before on an Amazon purchase has happened again where it just seems to be bouncing back and forth between carrier facilities in an attempt to make me wait on a package. Really annoying
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2023 13:23:47 GMT -5
Something that happened once before on an Amazon purchase has happened again where it just seems to be bouncing back and forth between carrier facilities in an attempt to make me wait on a package. Really annoying
I sometimes just don't bother with tracking as the following has happened to me on two separate occasions.
Someone sent me a package and several days later, the tracking said it was going to be returned to sender for whatever reason. This alarmed me at first as I wanted my order but was waiting for it to get back to him so I could ask what's up.
Instead it arrived at my place safe and sound and nothing was actually returned to him at all. The tracking was never updated.
He got in touch with me, worried about it and I assured him everything was ok.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2023 13:26:57 GMT -5
Something similar has happened to me. I received a package in mid-January. Still showing as out for delivery.
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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 10, 2023 13:31:05 GMT -5
In my experience, my interest in interacting with a Christian individual or group is inversely proportional to how much they focus on the book of Revelation. I'm a Christian and I believe what Jesus said, " Love your God with all your Heart , Your soul and your Mind and Treat your neighbor as yourself". And that's what makes you one of the Christians I'm happy to have in my life. You focus on the right part.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 10, 2023 15:29:49 GMT -5
The Goden Rule rulz!
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