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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 6, 2014 8:36:29 GMT -5
Maybe I could open a restaurant called State Fair that regularly had food porn like bacon wrapped smoked deep fried turkey legs, cheese curds and cinnamon roasted nuts. if you do make a documentary of the daily business. I always find food and food related documentaries interesting to watch. Food as an addiction or compulsion I find very interesting to me. The concept of food as more than nourishment is as foreign to me as some people are to not being able to have just one drink. I don't go to the state fair here but I'm pretty regular at the renessiance fair and they have a lot of the similar food trucks as fairs. I like funnel cake though I'm happy the whole family does too cause I couldn't eat a whole one. Last year I was there I ate Indian food. It was awesome.
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Post by zryson on Sept 6, 2014 9:21:52 GMT -5
I do understand why food can be come an addiction or compulsion. Sometimes the roots are traced back to childhood, and a lot depends (much in the way somebody might deal with grief) in their bio-chemical, emotional and psychological make-up and how they deal with daily life, stress, etc. As we see, that varies person to person.
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Post by the4thpip on Sept 6, 2014 11:04:47 GMT -5
I am so rebooting the Food Porn thread now.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 6, 2014 14:00:49 GMT -5
I do understand why food can be come an addiction or compulsion. Sometimes the roots are traced back to childhood, and a lot depends (much in the way somebody might deal with grief) in their bio-chemical, emotional and psychological make-up and how they deal with daily life, stress, etc. As we see, that varies person to person. I understand why people use anything for those reasons you mentioned, just like I use alcohol, and people use other drugs, tobacco, caffeine, uppers, prescriptions, but food as an excess never occurs to me. It brings me no comfort other than my stomach stops growling and I continue to live. I have kind of an odd family history of food. My mother always dieted throughout my life, and probably still does to some degree. She was never grossly overweight, or obese, but in her mind she was more than she wanted to me. I know that she did tell me, as I got older and asked why she dieted all the time, that food, especially junk food and candy was a comfort for her growing up in the home that she did, and so as an adult she became aware of her weight, and how she personally felt about it, so she always did for herself. Even with her really strict diet she forced on herself, she did indulge and it was a treat for her. I could see as I got older that food was more than sustenance, even though she had incredible self control (at least that I saw). My father loves food himself. Rail thin his whole life, I think he may have gained 20-30 over his entire lifetime. My father is six foot and probably 175-190 range. He enjoys his meals and his food. He eats his three meals a day. But as much as he likes food he still only eats when he is hungry. He has never shown signs of overeating, as much as he likes to eat. He eats really healthy as far as meals, but enjoys sweets and desserts, though he always eats them in moderation. My sister I never thought would be where she was the last time I saw her, probably 2 years ago or so. She, from our childhood and teens has really put on weight because of eating. She's lived away from me in St Louis, so I don't see her everyday life, but each time I see her it seems to get worse or at least not better. The last time I saw her i would say it borders on unhealthy. I don't think it's near clinical obesity but, it could be on the road she's going. I know that she is conflicted between her in laws and our parents in a lot of things in their marriage, just how I am. She just choose food over alcohol. Now me, I enjoy food to some degree. When I think of something that sounds good, I usually text my wife and say this sounds good for dinner. But no matter how much I like something, I have no thought to pursue getting it unless I am hungry. I eat about one meal a day, dinner, and something very minimal for lunch at work. I haven't eat yet today for example. And really don't feel hungry at the moment to eat. Sweets in general are a very rare thing. Soda is about the only thing I consume with sugar. If I am not hungry, food never crosses my mind. SO yes, while I understand the concept of placating life with something pleasurable, food isn't one of those things for me.
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Post by zryson on Sept 6, 2014 15:44:12 GMT -5
I've seen a lot of variations in food addiction/stories. A friends nephew is addicted to chicken. Doesnt matter if its for breakfast, lunch or dinner. His parents have tried desperately to get him to eat other things but he always refuses and they invariably give in and feed him chicken. Another friend is addicted to soft drink. Loves the sweetness of it even though it rots his teeth. Same with kids at the supermarket, you see their eyes light up when they go down the confectionery isle and sometimes they throw the biggest tantrums if their parents dont buy them a lolly. And its not entirely the child's fault because many foods are saturated with sugars and other additives which make a person crave them. And which often only give a limited high, so the person will then want more and then if the feeling isn't satisfied they can have mood disorders.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 23:50:32 GMT -5
Kids have very sensitive tastebuds and if parents don't accustom them to eating things they don't like they can grow into VERY picky eaters. I have many in my family. I can't really remember what I was eating growing up, I imagine it was a limited palette since my mom is a picky eater, but I will eat just about anything, as long as it's quality. I don't like hot pockets, but not even the slightest bit finicky about snails, heart, tongue, various organs found in things like pate and menudo. Any animal, any part of the animal, I'll give it a shot. Octopus doesn't bother me, wild game doesn't. I've eaten quail my friend shot in a grocery store parking lot with his BB gun.
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Post by zryson on Sept 7, 2014 4:38:46 GMT -5
I remember as a child visiting my grandparents and the food they served never seemed to agree with me. I would often sit there at the table pushing the food around with a fork or with my fingers and would ask "Can I be excused now?" and they would go "No! You have to finish everything on your plate." I never did like them very much.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 7, 2014 6:03:10 GMT -5
Eating to live is the key. But what gets in the way is the EXTREME pleasure that a person gets from the taste of food. I suppose if you remove our taste buds we might not have food addictions.
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Post by the4thpip on Sept 7, 2014 7:16:42 GMT -5
I don't think that is true, because most people that are "addicted" to food are so to the low quality kind.
Matter of fact, switching from quantity to quality helped quite a few people change their bad food habits. Knowing that the chocolate you are eating cost 5 bucks may keep you from wolfing it down in one sitting.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 7, 2014 7:42:02 GMT -5
I beg to differ. The taste is what brings you back. Even the most gluttonous person will not eat something that they don't think tastes good. If food tasted like nothing it would just be relegated to something that just keeps you going like gasoline.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 7, 2014 7:43:43 GMT -5
Didn't make the trip out to the Baltimore Comic Con this year. I'm going to make myself feel better by going to the attic and cataloging my comic books.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 7, 2014 8:41:02 GMT -5
I've seen a lot of variations in food addiction/stories. A friends nephew is addicted to chicken. Doesnt matter if its for breakfast, lunch or dinner. His parents have tried desperately to get him to eat other things but he always refuses and they invariably give in and feed him chicken. Another friend is addicted to soft drink. Loves the sweetness of it even though it rots his teeth. Same with kids at the supermarket, you see their eyes light up when they go down the confectionery isle and sometimes they throw the biggest tantrums if their parents dont buy them a lolly. And its not entirely the child's fault because many foods are saturated with sugars and other additives which make a person crave them. And which often only give a limited high, so the person will then want more and then if the feeling isn't satisfied they can have mood disorders. See now that's interesting. I mean I realize people like sugar and you here about all the studies about kids eating too much sugar, but comparing it to a high, to something that effects your brain, in a positive way to the consumer of it, resonates more as an addiction. As I am myself I know how frustrating a limited amount can be and if the choice is one or two drinks or none, I'd rather deal with none than just a taste.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 7, 2014 8:52:21 GMT -5
I don't think that is true, because most people that are "addicted" to food are so to the low quality kind. Matter of fact, switching from quantity to quality helped quite a few people change their bad food habits. Knowing that the chocolate you are eating cost 5 bucks may keep you from wolfing it down in one sitting. In some of the documentaries that I have watched over time the one consideration that one must consider when assuming quality over quantity is finances. Many families are stuck with quantity food (not always fast food or junk food but processed food) over quality is in the US quality food cost quality money. One can eat the same $50 amount of fresh, healthy, or low carb food that they CBS processed food; like prepared dinner, frozen meats, potato and vegetables. For example I can buy more soda, koolaid, or other fruit drink than I can 100% apple or orange juice. I've been through this about 1-2 years ago when things were real bad. I know the initial subject I brought up is addiction, but with food has an uncanny advantage over other substances like narcodics and alcohol, in that we all have to eat, but drugs and alcohol one has to seek out to get. So addiction to food can really be something that can sneak up on anyone whether it be your circumstances that are against you or something one allows to happen.
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Post by zryson on Sept 7, 2014 9:02:10 GMT -5
A person doesnt need to seek out alcohol or drugs. Both are readily found at supermarkets. All that has changed is that the laws are slowly getting tougher in terms of who can purchase them, and in what quantities.
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Post by zryson on Sept 7, 2014 9:14:03 GMT -5
Having a nice quiet night at home, just catching up on various stuff to do via the computer and watching documentaries. The past hour I watched a documentary from Discovery Channel's Shark Week in which survivors of shark attacks tell their stories. One man, in particular, moved me very much as he recounted being in the jaws of a Great White Shark. Doctors even recovered part of a shark tooth from one of his eyes.
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