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Post by Pharozonk on Dec 28, 2015 20:58:38 GMT -5
I was forced to block someone on this site. I never thought I'd do it, but the person gets me sick. I've changed, Icc! I'm a changed man! Come back!
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 28, 2015 21:01:21 GMT -5
I was forced to block someone on this site. I never thought I'd do it, but the person gets me sick. I've changed, Icc! I'm a changed man! Come back! The fact that I've answered you means it's not you. clever lad...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 9:16:53 GMT -5
A few words to the wise, guys: If any of you ever inquire about anything custom made (whatever it may be) by a designer/maker/artist, please do not ever insult our pricing by asking us how we justify such prices on custom pieces. Yes, we know our custom prices are, or can be viewed as, expensive. There is so much that goes into figuring cost for custom pieces, and it's insulting and tacky-as-HELL to question our costs (whether it be on materials, time, or labor involved). If the item is not something you can afford, and you feel it absolutely necessary to express this, then a simple "oh, that is a little more than I had intended to spend." will more than suffice. We get it. Custom pieces are so involved and take lots of planning time. Our time and labor is not free because it's not free for US.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Dec 29, 2015 15:49:48 GMT -5
A few words to the wise, guys: If any of you ever inquire about anything custom made (whatever it may be) by a designer/maker/artist, please do not ever insult our pricing by asking us how we justify such prices on custom pieces. Yes, we know our custom prices are, or can be viewed as, expensive. There is so much that goes into figuring cost for custom pieces, and it's insulting and tacky-as-HELL to question our costs (whether it be on materials, time, or labor involved). If the item is not something you can afford, and you feel it absolutely necessary to express this, then a simple "oh, that is a little more than I had intended to spend." will more than suffice. We get it. Custom pieces are so involved and take lots of planning time. Our time and labor is not free because it's not free for US. People forget that custom, hand-made, one of a kind pieces are not competing with Walmart on pricing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 16:02:17 GMT -5
A few words to the wise, guys: If any of you ever inquire about anything custom made (whatever it may be) by a designer/maker/artist, please do not ever insult our pricing by asking us how we justify such prices on custom pieces. Yes, we know our custom prices are, or can be viewed as, expensive. There is so much that goes into figuring cost for custom pieces, and it's insulting and tacky-as-HELL to question our costs (whether it be on materials, time, or labor involved). If the item is not something you can afford, and you feel it absolutely necessary to express this, then a simple "oh, that is a little more than I had intended to spend." will more than suffice. We get it. Custom pieces are so involved and take lots of planning time. Our time and labor is not free because it's not free for US. People forget that custom, hand-made, one of a kind pieces are not competing with Walmart on pricing. Thank you. You are the best. ♡
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Dec 29, 2015 17:21:04 GMT -5
A few words to the wise, guys: If any of you ever inquire about anything custom made (whatever it may be) by a designer/maker/artist, please do not ever insult our pricing by asking us how we justify such prices on custom pieces. Yes, we know our custom prices are, or can be viewed as, expensive. There is so much that goes into figuring cost for custom pieces, and it's insulting and tacky-as-HELL to question our costs (whether it be on materials, time, or labor involved). If the item is not something you can afford, and you feel it absolutely necessary to express this, then a simple "oh, that is a little more than I had intended to spend." will more than suffice. We get it. Custom pieces are so involved and take lots of planning time. Our time and labor is not free because it's not free for US. I look at it like I look at eating out. If you won't/can't pay a good tip to your waiter/waitress you can't afford to eat out. If you are haggling custom made items prices perhaps it's out of your price range. Neither of which is the fault of the provider of the good or service.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 17:46:40 GMT -5
A few words to the wise, guys: If any of you ever inquire about anything custom made (whatever it may be) by a designer/maker/artist, please do not ever insult our pricing by asking us how we justify such prices on custom pieces. Yes, we know our custom prices are, or can be viewed as, expensive. There is so much that goes into figuring cost for custom pieces, and it's insulting and tacky-as-HELL to question our costs (whether it be on materials, time, or labor involved). If the item is not something you can afford, and you feel it absolutely necessary to express this, then a simple "oh, that is a little more than I had intended to spend." will more than suffice. We get it. Custom pieces are so involved and take lots of planning time. Our time and labor is not free because it's not free for US. I look at it like I look at eating out. If you won't/can't pay a good tip to your waiter/waitress you can't afford to eat out. If you are haggling custom made items prices perhaps it's out of your price range. Neither of which is the fault of the provider of the good or service. It's the worst. And then to send me a picture of another maker's product and ask me how I can justify my prices?? We won't go there.
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Post by The Captain on Dec 29, 2015 19:14:51 GMT -5
A few words to the wise, guys: If any of you ever inquire about anything custom made (whatever it may be) by a designer/maker/artist, please do not ever insult our pricing by asking us how we justify such prices on custom pieces. Yes, we know our custom prices are, or can be viewed as, expensive. There is so much that goes into figuring cost for custom pieces, and it's insulting and tacky-as-HELL to question our costs (whether it be on materials, time, or labor involved). If the item is not something you can afford, and you feel it absolutely necessary to express this, then a simple "oh, that is a little more than I had intended to spend." will more than suffice. We get it. Custom pieces are so involved and take lots of planning time. Our time and labor is not free because it's not free for US. I look at it like I look at eating out. If you won't/can't pay a good tip to your waiter/waitress you can't afford to eat out. If you are haggling custom made items prices perhaps it's out of your price range. Neither of which is the fault of the provider of the good or service. There's a movement starting at some restaurants in the US that adopts the European model of not allowing gratuities. The item prices are higher to ensure that the entire staff, not just the server but also the kitchen staff, host/hostess, and busboys, can receive higher wages that are not subject to the whims of the clientele, particularly after said clientele perhaps has had a few drinks or a bad day. If someone wants something custom made, they should be willing to and should expect to pay for the craftsmanship, and if they want something cheap, they should just go to Walmart and buy off-the-shelf crap.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 19:31:32 GMT -5
I look at it like I look at eating out. If you won't/can't pay a good tip to your waiter/waitress you can't afford to eat out. If you are haggling custom made items prices perhaps it's out of your price range. Neither of which is the fault of the provider of the good or service. It's the worst. And then to send me a picture of another maker's product and ask me how I can justify my prices?? We won't go there. I'd just say "Buy that one then"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 19:32:26 GMT -5
I look at it like I look at eating out. If you won't/can't pay a good tip to your waiter/waitress you can't afford to eat out. If you are haggling custom made items prices perhaps it's out of your price range. Neither of which is the fault of the provider of the good or service. There's a movement starting at some restaurants in the US that adopts the European model of not allowing gratuities. The item prices are higher to ensure that the entire staff, not just the server but also the kitchen staff, host/hostess, and busboys, can receive higher wages that are not subject to the whims of the clientele, particularly after said clientele perhaps has had a few drinks or a bad day. If someone wants something custom made, they should be willing to and should expect to pay for the craftsmanship, and if they want something cheap, they should just go to Walmart and buy off-the-shelf crap. I don't see why they can't pay restaurant staff a living wage and still allow customers to tip them if they want though.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Dec 29, 2015 21:45:41 GMT -5
It's the worst. And then to send me a picture of another maker's product and ask me how I can justify my prices?? We won't go there. And you shouldn't have to. Americans (can't speak for others) need to grasp the difference between needs and wants and the importance of the former and unimportance of the latter. There's a movement starting at some restaurants in the US that adopts the European model of not allowing gratuities. The item prices are higher to ensure that the entire staff, not just the server but also the kitchen staff, host/hostess, and busboys, can receive higher wages that are not subject to the whims of the clientele, particularly after said clientele perhaps has had a few drinks or a bad day. If someone wants something custom made, they should be willing to and should expect to pay for the craftsmanship, and if they want something cheap, they should just go to Walmart and buy off-the-shelf crap. That should be the standard of an employer. But greed trumps fair wages most of the time. Especially with corporations. But aside that, I'd still tip. It's a way for me to say thank you and show my appreciation for people doing a job I would find very hard to do myself. I don't see why they can't pay restaurant staff a living wage and still allow customers to tip them if they want though. Probably the same reason we haven't adopted the metric system as the rest of the world has; Ameruican pride. Something that doesn't need common sense or curiosity to exist.
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Post by Spike-X on Dec 30, 2015 3:10:16 GMT -5
I look at it like I look at eating out. If you won't/can't pay a good tip to your waiter/waitress you can't afford to eat out. If you are haggling custom made items prices perhaps it's out of your price range. Neither of which is the fault of the provider of the good or service. There's a movement starting at some restaurants in the US that adopts the European model of not allowing gratuities. The item prices are higher to ensure that the entire staff, not just the server but also the kitchen staff, host/hostess, and busboys, can receive higher wages that are not subject to the whims of the clientele, particularly after said clientele perhaps has had a few drinks or a bad day. Or who think that their server will be able to pay the rent with frickin' Bible verses.
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Post by The Captain on Dec 30, 2015 8:00:51 GMT -5
There's a movement starting at some restaurants in the US that adopts the European model of not allowing gratuities. The item prices are higher to ensure that the entire staff, not just the server but also the kitchen staff, host/hostess, and busboys, can receive higher wages that are not subject to the whims of the clientele, particularly after said clientele perhaps has had a few drinks or a bad day. Or who think that their server will be able to pay the rent with frickin' Bible verses. Or college students who scraped together just enough cash to afford a burger and a beer, but not enough to leave a tip. Or snooty hipsters who weren't "sufficiently pleased" with the service, so they leave a single penny to show their displeasure. Or people whose food was not to their liking, which is completely out of the server's control, but the only way they can get back at the restaurant is by withholding the tip from the server. There are lots of reasons why tips are either not left or are left in small amounts, but I'm not surprised that someone here immediately jumped to bash Christians about it. Sure, there are some who leave just a Bible verse, which is obviously wrong, but I'd bet any amount that there are also atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, and Jews who skip or skimp on the tip as well. I'm also certain that there are some Christians who are very generous with their tipping whether the service was any good or not out of respect for the person who brought their food, just as there are people in those other groups mentioned who do the same.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 8:13:02 GMT -5
As someone who was a waitress/server for a good chunk of her younger years, I can honestly report that bad tippers come from alllll walks of life and belief systems.
And those who have never been a waitress/waiter will have no way of knowing this, really, but serving food and customer AND restaurant demands aren't the only things that make the job difficult, but after our shift is over, there is a bunch of work called "Sidework", and I always HATED IT. You have to clean, restock, and do stuff that is time-sucking. This sidework can take up to 2 + hours to do at times, so that ALSO eats into your tip/hourly wage. It's just a sucky job all around.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Dec 30, 2015 8:49:26 GMT -5
Handling people's money and food are two most thankless jobs in America. And they are the two jobs that most people have/had to work at some point in their lives. I've handled people's money and if those jobs are any indication of the righteous indignation of the average citizen, I am thankful I have never had to handle their food.
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