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Post by Mormel on Feb 26, 2016 8:17:41 GMT -5
True fact: this morning I heard the song 'Let It Go' from 'Frozen' for only the second time in my life. Another reminder of how I've been living under a rock when it comes to contemporary popular culture. That scares me as I have no clue what you're on about... Yay, I'm not the only one! To be honest, I never kept up with CGI animated features since 'Finding Nemo'. My mom works as a nanny so she sees 'em all on DVD with the kid she's babysitting.
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Post by Mormel on Feb 26, 2016 8:28:15 GMT -5
Another reminder of how I've been living under a rock when it comes to contemporary popular culture. Wait... You mean there's something above this rock??? Well, it's only a theory. I've heard rumours about this thing called 'fresh air' where if you take a deep breath it doesn't fill your lungs with dust and dirt. But it sounds like a load of hogwash.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 9:58:34 GMT -5
It had to happen ... welcome to the Meanwhile page of the beast!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 10:33:09 GMT -5
That scares me as I have no clue what you're on about... Yay, I'm not the only one! To be honest, I never kept up with CGI animated features since 'Finding Nemo'. My mom works as a nanny so she sees 'em all on DVD with the kid she's babysitting. Never knowingly heard it, either. The only "Let It Go" with which I'm familiar is by one of my favorite contemporary bands -- (An old online friend of mine, Damian Ramsey [I've got comments all over his website, synthpunk.org], appears at the 2:58 mark. Alas, within a year he was dead of stomach cancer at 29 or 30.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 15:36:03 GMT -5
Before I started school I was working 12-13 hour days every day and doing fine. I took time off work for school, which is only one day a week, but requires a fair bit of studying. Since then my energy has plummeted and I sleep like 12 hours a day and struggle to do anything while I'm awake, I think I may have a medical condition. Tomorrow is the last day of class. I'll be scheduling a doctors appointment after that
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Post by Mormel on Feb 26, 2016 16:17:25 GMT -5
Before I started school I was working 12-13 hour days every day and doing fine. I took time off work for school, which is only one day a week, but requires a fair bit of studying. Since then my energy has plummeted and I sleep like 12 hours a day and struggle to do anything while I'm awake, I think I may have a medical condition. Tomorrow is the last day of class. I'll be scheduling a doctors appointment after that Sounds like a good idea (seeing the doctor, that is), but do you think it might have anything to do with either your eating pattern or your sleeping pattern itself? Studying is very different from work in terms of energy consumption, and it can be difficult to make the switch from working a set number of days in the week, to a different but also busy weekly schedule. The switch sometimes goes unnoticed, until you experience fatigue.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Feb 26, 2016 16:45:58 GMT -5
It had to happen ... welcome to the Meanwhile page of the beast! In observance of page 666, please read this page backwards and look for satanic messages.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 16:58:30 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, and I have thought about starting a thread on this subject, but I cannot recall if one has already been made or not, so I decided to ask here:
This topic came up in a FB group I am in: How does the personal lives of the artists you enjoy affect how/if you enjoy their art? Several different artists came up during this discussion, and I found out things about some artists that I never knew, and I probably could have lived the rest of my life just fine never having found out. Where do you draw the line? Do you draw the line?
Anywhere from they are a complete jerk to they raped or murdered someone. Does this change your opinion of, not only the artist, but of his/her art? Does it affect you at all? A little bit? No? Do tell.
For me, I was crushed to find out that Prince had relations with under-aged women, and that Kate Bush and PJ Harvey have both openly spoken out AGAINST feminism. Oh.my.heart broke.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 17:05:52 GMT -5
In observance of page 666, please read this page backwards and look for satanic messages. " Segassem cin a tas rofko, old nasdrawk cab egap Ssiht dae resa elp 666 egapfo. Ecna vres bo ni!" Hmm... appears to be some wort of Welsh poetry
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 17:13:59 GMT -5
For me, I was crushed to find out that Prince had relations with under-aged women Based on recent coverage in the UK, I've got to the point where I would be more surprised to find there was a well known musician / DJ / celebrity / politician who hadn't had adventures in the land of jailbait.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 17:15:16 GMT -5
For me, I was crushed to find out that Prince had relations with under-aged women Based on recent coverage in the UK, I've got to the point where I would be more surprised to find there was a well known musician / DJ / celebrity / politician who hadn't had adventures in the land of jailbait. I am finding this out, too. I guess I just had not thought about it before. But now, I'm going to be hard pressed to think there is a celebrity who hasn't.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Feb 26, 2016 17:19:29 GMT -5
Anywhere from they are a complete jerk to they raped or murdered someone. Does this change your opinion of, not only the artist, but of his/her art? Does it affect you at all? A little bit? No? Do tell. This comes up every now and again. It's a great question and presents a fascinating moral conundrum. For me, a great deal of compartmentalizing is necessary, as most of the artists whose work I enjoy are objectively terrible people. I think almost anybody's life laid bare for public consumption is going to come off poorly. I can only speak for myself and say that the work must remain separate from the person. A life spent studying Jimmy Carter and watching Mister Rogers' Neighborhood is patently unappealing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 17:38:22 GMT -5
Ideally, yes, as Phil said the art must remain separate from the artist. If I couldn't separate the two, there's no way I'd be a fan of Lovecraft; instead, he's my 2nd-favorite writer, after Phil Dick (who had some issues himself).
Just as ideally, though, artists whom I find personally repugnant will turn out to be responsible for work I find uninteresting if not awful. See also: Miller, Frank; Millar, Mark; Sim, Dave; Tarantino, Quinton; Card, Orson Scott; Van Sciver, Ethan; Tucci, Billy; etc.
But yes, I do like work by certain people whose views I find repellent -- Mike Baron, Batton Lash & Troy Hickman among recent-ish writers (Lash of course draws as well) come immediately to mind. I just try not to think about it. I mean, my all-time favorite artist, John Severin, was quite the anti-Communist; he'd probably have stabbed me with one of his pens.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 18:12:42 GMT -5
This is what I feel as well. I think it's how much I love the actual art. Obviously, whether or not I decide I love the works enough to keep listening/viewing/reading them, I still would not make excuses for the bad behavior or the artist. Which is something I've seen a lot of fans do. I mean, like I said, it can still break my heart to find out certain things about my favorites (how can two WOMEN speak out AGAINST feminism?? And Joni Mitchell spoke out against lesbians? WTF), but being as Kate Bush's music is extremely feminist, I'm fine enjoying it. I still find it bizarre, though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 18:20:26 GMT -5
It is indeed, & I wasn't aware of that. Sort of comparable, IMHO, to Michelle Shocked infamously coming out against homosexuality a few years back, though I for one strongly suspect that psychiatric issues might have been involved, along with religious warping. (This is someone I not only saw way back before she'd recorded a single thing [at Rock Against Reagan in Dallas in 8/84], but also was able to chat with after her Little Rock show about 20 years ago.) Doesn't mean I love, say, "Anchorage" or "Come a Long Way" any less.
(Interesting that her stuff appears to be banned from YouTube. Meanwhile, I can access clips by the avowedly Nazi skinhead band Skrewdriver [who unfortunately did record at least 3 classic tracks --"Government Action," "Anti-Social" & "You're So Dumb" -- back in the day, albeit before they turned political] via the site all day long.)
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