Confessor
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Post by Confessor on Jul 13, 2016 9:38:49 GMT -5
Sorry Gene, but I'm not a fan. I bought Appetite For Destruction when it came out (rare robot rape cover and all!) and was disappointed to find that there was only one decent song on it: "Paradise City". I'd still say that "Paradise City" is the best thing the band ever produced and, even then, it's little more than a meaningless, fist pumping, stadium sing-a-long rock song. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's not my cup of tea. Sweet Child of Mine was on that record. Guns 'n Roses has got to be the most hit or miss band in all of music history, but they definitely had hits. Some of their singles were utter crap (Welcome to the Jungle, for example), but Sweet Child of Mine, Patience, Don't Cry, November Rain, and Estranged are all songs that hold deep resonance for me. I can never ever listen to one of their albums straight through though because those deep tracks are utter pain. Aside from its iconic guitar intro, I've always thought "Sweet Child of Mine" was pretty boring and much too "rock-ballad-by-numbers" for my tastes. I used to think "Patience" was an OK song back in the late '80s, but when I heard it again a couple of years ago, I was shocked by what a nothingy song it is; an average acoustic ballad groping around in the dark for a hook, a melody and something important to say, without ever really finding them. "November Rain" is up there with "Salt Water" by Julian Lennon as one of the worst songs ever written, IMHO. We can agree that "Welcome to the Jungle" was utterly terrible though. Yeah, G'n'Rs have never really been my thing, I'm afraid. But then that's the thing with music, isn't it? One man's uplifting, emotional masterpiece is another man's overwrought, stadium rock rubbish.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 13, 2016 9:44:15 GMT -5
Go listen to your Deluxe Bread Boxed Set. *stealthy turns off his Air Supply greatest hits*
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Confessor
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Post by Confessor on Jul 13, 2016 9:44:30 GMT -5
Go listen to your Deluxe Bread Boxed Set. Ha! You know, I was talking about you to my gf the other day. She was asking if I owned any Bread records and I told her that I have The Sound of Bread compilation album, but that I've probably only listened to it two or three times since I bought it. I then proceeded to tell her all about the ribbing you've given me, on more than a few occasions, ever since I confessed to buying it in the old CBR forum some years back. I put it on and we only managed to make it through side 1 before deciding that although it's quite nicely played, recorded and produced -- and very chilled out -- it's a bit too nondescript and boring to want to sit through side 2 as well. I still really like "Make It with You" though.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 13, 2016 9:54:07 GMT -5
Go listen to your Deluxe Bread Boxed Set. *stealthy turns off his Air Supply greatest hits* My wife and I call my brother-in-law every Thanksgiving to sing him the Saturday Night Live Air Supply skit. Of course, we also unabashedly rock out to "Making Love Out of Nothing At all" whenever it comes on, so judge away
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 13, 2016 10:24:07 GMT -5
Now that's a good parody song. I got a laugh out of that. Thanks for sharing shax.
And I do like Air Supply myself. Always been a sucker for sappy music.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 13, 2016 10:26:15 GMT -5
Love it or hate it, Air supply will be forever associated in my mind with the first slows I danced.
Ah, to be young again.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 13, 2016 10:36:58 GMT -5
Go listen to your Deluxe Bread Boxed Set. Ha! You know, I was talking about you to my gf the other day. She was asking if I owned any Bread records and I told her that I have The Sound of Bread compilation album, but that I've probably only listened to it two or three times since I bought it. I then proceeded to tell her all about the ribbing you've given me, on more than a few occasions, ever since I confessed to buying it in the old CBR forum some years back. I put it on and we only managed to make it through side 1 before deciding that although it's quite nicely played, recorded and produced -- and very chilled out -- it's a bit too nondescript and boring to want to sit through side 2 as well. I still really like "Make It with You" though. That's one of the problems with both Bread and Air Supply (other than being exceptionally syrupy), all their songs sound the same. You've heard 30 seconds of any of their songs, you've basically heard all of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 11:31:19 GMT -5
Glancing at Bread's Wikipedia entry just now, I only just discovered that they did "Everything I Own." (Or probably I knew it at the time but didn't retain the info.) Not a bad song at all, really, at least according to my radio memories from 40+ years ago. First time for everything ...
"Baby I'm-a Want You," though -- ugh. Pretty sure that's the song that made me hate them, though "Guitar Man" had a lot to do with that as well. In comparison, "Make It with You" comes off as Ministry's "Stigmata."
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 13, 2016 11:54:52 GMT -5
If there was any group responsible for the creation of soft-rock as a genre, it was Bread. Hell, even Chicago had some bite to them on their early albums. Bread's song "If" -another of their number 1s, epitomizes the empty calories in their music. I'll take Three Dog Night any day of the week then to be stuck in a recording studio with Bread
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 13, 2016 12:38:07 GMT -5
What about Journey? They were pretty soft rock-ish. At least to me. But I was listening probably more to their 80's stuff that was played on the radio at the time that might not have been reflective of their music as a whole. I do remember buying Trail by Fire when it came out in the 90's and I remember it being pretty much soft rock.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 13, 2016 13:23:48 GMT -5
What about Journey? They were pretty soft rock-ish. At least to me. But I was listening probably more to their 80's stuff that was played on the radio at the time that might not have been reflective of their music as a whole. I do remember buying Trail by Fire when it came out in the 90's and I remember it being pretty much soft rock. Funny thing about Journey was that they started out as an off-shoot from the original Santana band. made up from that bands 2nd guitarist, Neil Schon, drummer Michael Shrieve and vocalist,keyboard man Greg Rollie. It was more of a progressive rock band for the first 2 albums and I liked them at that time. Then they changed members and morphed into a power-ballad band. I wouldn't quite categorize them as soft-rock. Thats territory for Bread, The Carpenters and other pap artists
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Post by impulse on Jul 13, 2016 14:31:29 GMT -5
Sorry Gene, but I'm not a fan. I bought Appetite For Destruction when it came out (rare robot rape cover and all!) and was disappointed to find that there was only one decent song on the album: "Paradise City". I'd still have to say that "Paradise City" is the best thing the band ever produced and, even then, it's little more than a meaningless, fist pumping, stadium sing-a-long rock song. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's not my cup of tea. And I thought you were all right. The main riff to "Paradise City" is one of the best, catchiest, most driving of the decade, I thought. And yeah, soft rock. What's that about? What an oxymoron. ....I never liked Journey.
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Post by Mormel on Jul 13, 2016 14:33:18 GMT -5
What do you guys make of Exile? They had that one awful hit single 'Kiss You All Over' and then what? Disappeared off the face of the planet?
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Post by Gene on Jul 13, 2016 14:51:52 GMT -5
Journey blows.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 13, 2016 14:52:03 GMT -5
Love it or hate it, Air supply will be forever associated in my mind with the first slows I danced. Ah, to be young again. When I was a teen, the big slow-dance tune was "Color My World" by Chicago. Young again? Not for me, thanks.
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