Confessor
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Post by Confessor on Nov 18, 2016 23:02:19 GMT -5
So in many ways, the pulp market is very much like the comics market, high grade and key issues sell for a decent price, everything else can be had on the cheap if you're patient. From what I saw on eBay the other night, you wouldn't have to be that patient. There were tons of issues on there for under a fiver (UK money). I'm sure none of them were key, Lovecraft or Burroughs issues, as you say, but still, I was surprised by their cheapness.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 18, 2016 23:07:34 GMT -5
Key characters can definitely be expensive. But you can get key writers pretty cheap, especially if the condition isn't great. I've picked up pulps with Bradbury stories for a few bucks apiece. I'm not a pulp collector, by any means, but if I can find the right ones with the right writers I'll buy them cheap.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 23:08:35 GMT -5
This is the only Howard Conan story I have in it's original pulp appearance, and it was a posthumous one that De Camp edited for publication, I got it for under $10 on ebay about 15 years ago (when I was still using ebay, something I haven't done for a decade) These are some of the pulps I got either for the $3 a pop at Bookery Fantasy for for $1 each at 2nd and Charles... The patience isn't so much for finding them on the cheap, it's for finding them at all in the wild as very few places carry them. I have a few others I spent a little more on, but they were from a charity auction for the Hero Initiative and I didn't mind paying the $15 for the lot of them because it was for a worthy cause. -M
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 18, 2016 23:28:19 GMT -5
These are the only ones I have that aren't in storage.
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Post by berkley on Nov 19, 2016 2:32:00 GMT -5
I've bought a few of those old pulp mags too, when I've seen them cheap online. One attraction for me is the illustrations, which weren't usually reprinted when they appeared in anthologies: not all of them are good, but there are sometimes a few gems in there. I only have 5 or 6 issues, all told, but I've been pleasantly surprised that they aren't in bad shape considering the age and the cheap paper, so I'll probably continue to pick up one here and there if I see anything tempting at a cheap price.
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Post by the4thpip on Nov 19, 2016 2:35:36 GMT -5
I've been threatened with worse personally. Heterosexual intercourse. No thanks. I'd rather be shot. I can't tell whether I should laugh at this or gasp and cry. Hoping it's the former. In vaguely related news, I had a pretty disturbing issue come up while teaching today. We're doing To Kill A Mockingbird, and one student asked whether or not rape would be punishable by death, and a second, completely seriously, asked "Why? Why's rape such a big deal?" I was at a total loss in how to reply and felt tears welling up inside. If I were talking to a friend my own age who was somehow ignorant enough to not understand this, I'd ask him to imagine someone a foot taller than him sodomizing him against his will, but I had no idea how to make this completely ignorant 14 year old boy that I was legally responsible for educating understand why free sex can be the total opposite of a wonderful thing. I can make a teachable moment out of ANYTHING, and I had no idea what to say here, so I just told him it was a very serious matter that ruined lives, and we moved on. So I feel like I failed in a major way today, and I'm still really shaken by the experience. In Germany, we actually have religious education as a subect in public schools as an "opt out" kind of model. I was in ... 8th grade I believe, maybe 7th, when we were discussing the death penalty. Somebody asked if rape should be subject to it. The teacher, a 60something Catholic priest, replied that rape was not as severe a crime as murder or theft.
That was when I opted out.
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Post by the4thpip on Nov 19, 2016 2:38:31 GMT -5
I hit the local mountain bike park today, for the first time since the other side of winter (Summer for you Northern Hemispheroids). I used to have to stop three times per lap doing the big loop (lots of short but steep climbs). Today I made it around twice without stopping at all. Getting fitter! Getting stronger! That's awesome! Obviously with your summer, our winter is coming, and the weather has been abysmal all week. I might go for a run in a few minutes though, as it is at least dry now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 16:45:10 GMT -5
Dealer got some overstock shipped in this morning and I cherry-picked about 43 recent books with covers up to $5.95 for a fifty.
I was a bit hesitant about the new Punisher series, the MAX books have raised the bar for me where he is concerned so this new series is kinda watered down, but still okay.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 19, 2016 23:49:04 GMT -5
The actual "pulps" were called that because they were printed on the cheapest crappiest wood pulp paper. You could actually sometimes see the actual wood in the paper. The edges were also untrimmed and the page sizing wasn't necessarily the best...so the edges are almost always incredibly ragged. The binding was also pretty damn awful and the staples tended to rub holes in the covers. Once the pulps started to transition into the digests then the production values picked up. They were printed on newsprint with trimmed edges and better binding. If you look at the history of SF, as an example, status was earned if you went from the pulps, Astounding, Amazing, etc. to the slicks, Colliers, Saturday Evening Post, etc. Not only was it more prestigious, the money was a LOT better. Bradbury and Heinlein were the big shots because they got in the slicks first. This is gonna sound stupid, but even though I well knew that the word "pulp" was the name for paper when it's in its raw, wet, unformed state, I didn't realise pulp magazines were so-called because of the low quality wood pulp used in their manufacture. I thought "pulp" referred to them being raw -- as in sensational, lurid and often poorly written. Fascinating info about the scene and how the best or most successful writers graduated to slicker, glossier publications, Slam. The use of "pulp" for the story qualities you cite were an after-effect. Much like Hollywood would refer to a "comic book" story or character, "pulp" was used for sensationalist, hardboiled storytelling. It also ties into other elements of American history. Much of the paper used in publishing, before the 20th Century, came from hemp. Wood pulp paper was far cheaper, but also of such lower quality. hemp was actually a better resource, since it was more readily renewable and more beneficial to the soil in which it was grown. the tide turned thanks to William Randolph Hearst. hearst owned wood pulp paper mills and one of the motivating forces for his papers' attacks on marijuana and hemp was derived from a desire to boost his wood pulp paper sales. By advocating the criminalization of marijuana and, as a byproduct, hemp, he cleared the market of his chief rival resource. Paul Malmont's novel, The Chinatown death Cloud Peril, s an ode to the pulp writers of the past, especially Lester Dent (author of most of the Doc Savage stories) and Walter Gibson (author of most of the Shadow). Included in the novel are HP Lovecraft (whose death sets off the plot), L Ron Hubbard (who got his start in the pulps, swiping endlessly from better writers), EE "Doc" Smith (who was a chemist, working for a baking company), Robert Heinlein, and Louis L'Amour. There are discussions of what is "pulp" within, while these pulp writers find themselves in a pulp mystery. Really great novel.
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Post by Mormel on Nov 20, 2016 3:21:34 GMT -5
Was re-reading Abnett & Lanning's 'Guardians of the Galaxy' this morning. So much fun. Some of these issues I had not revisited in 6 years. Still holds up!
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 20, 2016 7:18:52 GMT -5
Was re-reading Abnett & Lanning's 'Guardians of the Galaxy' this morning. So much fun. Some of these issues I had not revisited in 6 years. Still holds up! Im so thankful the movie took the spirit of the Abnett & Lanning run even if the basis of the story was from *shudders* Bendis' run. Ugh I said his name. I gotta take a shower now.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 20, 2016 9:59:06 GMT -5
My 13 year old son just asked advice on kissing. I had nothing. I told him the first gal I was kissed by ambushed me under the guise of friendship. :-) But I didn't stop her either. Cause she was good at it. So I said leave it to her and let her do or don't.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 20, 2016 12:47:12 GMT -5
Funny ad for a moving company from Germany. (Not really political).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 14:00:07 GMT -5
Starting to get the pins and needles excitement/anticipation waiting on our Grand Dictator for Life of the Classic Comics Christmas to announce this year's topic for the Twelve Days of Christmas. It usually happens after Turkey Day, but I'm looking forward to something joyful to think abut this holiday season and the Twelve Days event always does the trick!
-M
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Nov 22, 2016 20:53:51 GMT -5
I have spent way too much time playing Candy Crush Soda Saga. However, I am now up to level 105
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