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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 20:27:47 GMT -5
When my youngest female cat started presenting like that a few weeks ago, I wasted no time taking her to the spay/neuter clinic.
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Post by berkley on Jul 12, 2014 20:52:36 GMT -5
When my youngest female cat started presenting like that a few weeks ago, I wasted no time taking her to the spay/neuter clinic. In the next issue of Mark Millar's Batgirl ... Never have read Killing Joke and never have felt much interest in it, though I still think Alan Moore is one of the very best writers ever to work in comics.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 21:03:21 GMT -5
I like it. It makes sense to me that a commissioner's daughter and a librarian, let alone a former victim of sexual assault, would have a less sexualized outfit. I simply cannot take a comic seriously when women are depicted like this. Just can't read it. Well that look is gone soon, to be replaced with this.... -M
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 21:12:19 GMT -5
Just to show how out of touch I am these days, I've been meaning to ask since the subject came up yesterday -- what exactly is "hipster" about that outfit? The boots? I mean, Doc Martens & the like have been somewhat de rigueur for at least half my life, & I'm ... y'know ... not young.
The leather jacket? Same goes for those (not that I've ever owned one, or for that matter actual Doc Martens, mainly because I'm not only a cheapskate but have tended to avoid wearing leather & the like), except for longer than I've been alive.
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Post by Pharozonk on Jul 12, 2014 21:28:10 GMT -5
Just to show how out of touch I am these days, I've been meaning to ask since the subject came up yesterday -- what exactly is "hipster" about that outfit? The boots? I mean, Doc Martens & the like have been somewhat de rigueur for at least half my life, & I'm ... y'know ... not young. The leather jacket? Same goes for those (not that I've ever owned one, or for that matter actual Doc Martens, mainly because I'm not only a cheapskate but have tended to avoid wearing leather & the like), except for longer than I've been alive. I guess it's a generational thing. If someone walked into school with clothes like those, they would probably be immediately deemed a hipster since those are the types of articles of clothing associated with that label. There's also the fact that the article stated that Barbara would be moving to a new neighborhood populated by young college age kids and her costume would be made out of clothes she found at vintage stores and boutiques, which are very much hipster shopping centers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 21:34:05 GMT -5
No doubt. I guess when I think of self-styled hipsters & clothes "found at vintage stores" (I don't think anyone of my acquaintance had anything to do with boutiques) I think of what younger friends of mine were wearing back when I had younger friends, in Little Rock about 15 years ago -- pretty much (I take it) stereotypical emo-type garb, a la skinny pants & button-down shirts & such silly stuff.
As I said, I'm out of touch. And have been for quite some while.
The fact that around here, "hipster" pretty much seems to mean "not wearing an Auburn or Alabama T-shirt every single day" doesn't help, of course.
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Post by berkley on Jul 12, 2014 21:53:06 GMT -5
Is she also supposed to be a lot younger in the new version? She looks about 12 years old there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 21:59:44 GMT -5
Is she also supposed to be a lot younger in the new version? She looks about 12 years old there. Nope. That's the part that bugs me. It's the same Babs that has been a part of the new52 since the launch, but now depicted as a teen girl. Smacks of a desperate sales ploy to recapture the fans of the teen Batgirl (i.e. Cassie & Steph) while keeping Babs in the suit to placate fans of the traditional Batgirl. Desperate sales ploys are usually not a good starting point for interesting storytelling and good stories. But then it seems DC's whole strategy is about chasing market share these days, so hey just par for the course here. -M
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 13, 2014 0:10:35 GMT -5
Or, you know, it could be new creators with a different take on the character. But that wouldn't fulfill the fanboy glee to prejudge.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 0:33:37 GMT -5
Or, you know, it could be new creators with a different take on the character. But that wouldn't fulfill the fanboy glee to prejudge. When DC and Diamond let me read the entire book before deciding how I want to order it for the shop, I'll stop prejudging their books, but when I have to decide how to order these things for customers months before I (or they) get to see them, then the entire business model is based on prejudging books, so I have to go by track record and modus operandi of the current editorial regime at DC. I wish I didn't have to prejudge books, but since they basically print to pre-orders I have to decide ahead of time how many to order in for the shop and how it will sell, the month it comes out and for the next 4-5 months of the first arc based on what promotional materials are out there. If I am deciding whether to buy or sample a book for myself I can afford to wait and not prejudge. When I am deciding how the book will play with the customer base in our shop and filling out the recommended number to order for my local shop owner, I have to decide based on what I see before the book comes out. i.e. prejudge every book on the market. -M
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 13, 2014 2:32:02 GMT -5
Are you sure that was the show? I can't remember that episode and didn't find anything online cross referencing that name with Unsolved Mysteries. Perhaps it was a different show? Sorry to keep talking about this. I was just curious because I couldn't remember. I'll try to find out.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 13, 2014 12:24:04 GMT -5
Or, you know, it could be new creators with a different take on the character. But that wouldn't fulfill the fanboy glee to prejudge. When DC and Diamond let me read the entire book before deciding how I want to order it for the shop, I'll stop prejudging their books, but when I have to decide how to order these things for customers months before I (or they) get to see them, then the entire business model is based on prejudging books, so I have to go by track record and modus operandi of the current editorial regime at DC. I wish I didn't have to prejudge books, but since they basically print to pre-orders I have to decide ahead of time how many to order in for the shop and how it will sell, the month it comes out and for the next 4-5 months of the first arc based on what promotional materials are out there. If I am deciding whether to buy or sample a book for myself I can afford to wait and not prejudge. When I am deciding how the book will play with the customer base in our shop and filling out the recommended number to order for my local shop owner, I have to decide based on what I see before the book comes out. i.e. prejudge every book on the market. -M Fine. I get that. But there's this absolutely relentless negativity in comics fandom that is absolutely draining. "I hate what they're doing. But if they try to change it, I'll hate that because they changed it." "This book sucks, but I have to read it." "I can't read that it's not in continuity and not important." Overall, I find this less true with people hereabouts, but it's still there particularly with new books. In fact in some ways it's worse with new books because there's this horrendous "get off my lawn" streak. So there we are.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 13:02:18 GMT -5
Well that look is gone soon, to be replaced with this.... -M Hideous- she will strike fear in the hearts of teens shopping at the mall. Very soon we will see a teen version of Martian Manhunter in MC Hammer pants.
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Post by ironchimp on Jul 13, 2014 13:53:22 GMT -5
Fine. I get that. But there's this absolutely relentless negativity in comics fandom that is absolutely draining. "I hate what they're doing. But if they try to change it, I'll hate that because they changed it." "This book sucks, but I have to read it." "I can't read that it's not in continuity and not important." Being the only person I know who reads comics, i had no idea about fandom until 5 or 6 years ago and it really is a car crash.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 14:55:24 GMT -5
Just to show how out of touch I am these days, I've been meaning to ask since the subject came up yesterday -- what exactly is "hipster" about that outfit? The boots? I mean, Doc Martens & the like have been somewhat de rigueur for at least half my life, & I'm ... y'know ... not young. The leather jacket? Same goes for those (not that I've ever owned one, or for that matter actual Doc Martens, mainly because I'm not only a cheapskate but have tended to avoid wearing leather & the like), except for longer than I've been alive. I don't see it as a hipster outfit. I thought this was a hipster outfit
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