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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 11, 2018 11:05:22 GMT -5
I'd like to see the Silmarillion adapted into an animated form. Seeing Morgoth, Ancallion the Black, the original Balrogs, and the high elves of the Noldor in all their splendor and dread would be something else. This was an era when individual elves could take on Sauron 1 on 1 and win, and yet Morgoth still would have won in the long run. And with how beautiful the LOTR movies were, I feel only animation can capture what the world would have been like in the first age, which the beauty and grandeur of the third age depicted in LOTR is but a shadow of. I’d love to see such an animated movie, but all done in shadow play (as in the opening scene of Ralph Bakshi’s Lord of the Rings film). There probably wouldn’t be much of an audience for it, but it would look suitably legendary!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 0:33:58 GMT -5
SyFy has picked up on a report from the Onering.net claiming they heard form multiple sources the Amazon series will initially focus on stories surrounding a young Aragorn using material form Tolkien's appendices to form the spine of the story of his younger days and fleshing it out form there. From the SyFy article... None of it is confirmed, it's all rumor at this point, but that could be an interesting anchor for a series set in Middle Earth and would at least be based on material Tolkien presented and not made up whole cloth. -M
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 18, 2018 12:50:21 GMT -5
SyFy has picked up on a report from the Onering.net claiming they heard form multiple sources the Amazon series will initially focus on stories surrounding a young Aragorn using material form Tolkien's appendices to form the spine of the story of his younger days and fleshing it out form there. From the SyFy article... None of it is confirmed, it's all rumor at this point, but that could be an interesting anchor for a series set in Middle Earth and would at least be based on material Tolkien presented and not made up whole cloth. That would be better, certainly, but only if the writers avoid the trap that the three Hobbit movies so gleefully fell into: introducing characters that don't fit the mythology but satisfy current sensitivities ("let's have a kick-ass she-elf because we have entirely too many male warriors in there!"), retconning things in a useless manner ("Why can't Legolas have been there, only never mentioned?") or turning characters into jokes because we really need some comic relief ("that brown Istari dude... why couldn't he be a clown?") There is a lot of potential in the early days of Aragorn's life, so it might work out... but it will be difficult to make the thing as gripping as Game of Thrones, considering that unexpected major deaths will be unlikely, that no big change to the status quo can be made (Sauron going "I am your father" and stuff) and that... we already know how Aragorn and Arwen's tale ends!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 3:01:57 GMT -5
A Walt Simonson piece depicting his cariacture of Tolkien and Moorcock as he conceives them... -M
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 3:17:01 GMT -5
More Simonson interpretations of Tolkien scenes... The Witch King of Angmar, done circa 1965 Walt on this piece... Treebeard and Isengard done circa 2001 Walt on this piece.. The Thrush from the Hobbit done circa 1976 Walt on this piece... -M
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Post by thwhtguardian on May 28, 2018 18:32:43 GMT -5
More Simonson interpretations of Tolkien scenes... The Witch King of Angmar, done circa 1965 Walt on this piece... Treebeard and Isengard done circa 2001 Walt on this piece.. The Thrush from the Hobbit done circa 1976 Walt on this piece... -M It surprising how similar the Witch King scene from the film looks to this picture. I mean, I guess there are only so many ways to show a guy emerging from a dead dragon but still, it's striking.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 23:07:17 GMT -5
I posted this in another thread, but I added this book to my Tolkien shelf this weekend... I fell in love with the Hildebrandt brothers Tolkien work when I got a calendar featuring it sometime in high school iirc. We had one artbook featuring the Hildebrandts on our bookshelf, but it only had a few of the Tolkien pieces, this one cover most if not all of their Tolkien works. -M
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 16:30:34 GMT -5
Found this site that might be of interest to Tolkien fans: The Compleat Gyde to Tolkien Calendars which has a picture archives of many, many Tolkien calendars. There's a 1977 Tolkien calendar up for bid at Lonestar this week and I was searching for exactly what the 12 images were (I knew it was Hildebrandts' art but the cover was the only pic provided in the auction listing) when I stumbled across this site in my research. -M
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 18, 2018 20:51:49 GMT -5
Cool site, @mrp!
I got rid of my 1980 and 1981 Ballantine Books calendars decades ago... It’s nice to see those images again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 20:56:25 GMT -5
Cool site, @mrp! I got rid of my 1980 and 1981 Ballantine Books calendars decades ago... It’s nice to see those images again. Cool. I ended up passing on the calendar (well I got outbid and I was bidding on a Larry Elmore portfolio too and didn't want to raise my max bid on the calendar), but I just picked up the Tolkien Years art book by the Brothers Hildebrandt a week or so ago and it had all those pieces in it. But I love a lot of the old Tolkien calendar art froma variety of artists, so it's enjoyable to browse through the site and check some of it out. -M
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 21:52:55 GMT -5
With the relaunch of the Mego corporation, there has been a lot of speculation of what licenses they could pursue in the future, and I keep hoping a license with the Tolkien estate could happen now that Toy Biz is out of the game and no longer has the license, but I did recently stumble on a Mego-like line that Toy Biz did in the 12 inch line called the Special Collector's series that I didn't know about... I've been trying to find a checklist of what characters were released but have been unsuccessful. I found links to old auctions and some still on sale at Amazon, but haven't had any luck finding a comprehensive list of the figures. It looks like there were 3 sets, one for each movie in the trilogy, and some figures were released for multiple films but I don;t know if it was the same figure in different packaging or if they had different outfits/accessories. I've seen pics of the following: Frodo Gandalf Aragorn Legolas Gimli Eowyn Arwen Galadriel Ringwraith but have never seen one up close in person. The pics look good but I don't know the actual quality of the figures (though much of the Toy Biz line, especially the 6 inch scale action figures, are held in high esteem for quality in toy collector circles). So I was wondering if any of the Tolkien fans here had any info on these-links to a site with a checklist or reviews of these figures, or personal experience with them. If so, any help/info would be appreciated as I decide whether or not to go down this rabbit hole. -M
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Post by Confessor on Aug 16, 2018 7:18:15 GMT -5
I found a first edition copy of Robert Foster's The Complete Guide to Middle-Earth in a local charity shop for the bargain price of £2.50 the other day. Really pleased to have this. It's a fascinating tome and one that will no doubt come in handy the next time I try to get through the literary quagmire that is The Silmarillion.
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Post by berkley on Aug 17, 2018 23:16:55 GMT -5
I saw a paperback copy of the original Foster guide at a local used bookstore a few months ago and couldn't make up my mind whether I wanted it or not - I think RR recommended the updated edition that came out after the Silmarillion cleared up some of the stuff that Foster had been forced to speculate about in the earlier one?
Of course by the time I made up my mind and went back for it a few weeks later it was long gone.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 18, 2018 5:23:34 GMT -5
I saw a paperback copy of the original Foster guide at a local used bookstore a few months ago and couldn't make up my mind whether I wanted it or not - I think RR recommended the updated edition that came out after the Silmarillion cleared up some of the stuff that Foster had been forced to speculate about in the earlier one? Of course by the time I made up my mind and went back for it a few weeks later it was long gone. Yeah, the copy I got was the first edition from after the Silmarillion came out, when Foster changed the book's title to the "complete" guide.
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Post by String on Aug 18, 2018 10:27:13 GMT -5
After re-watching the trilogy again on one of the Encore channels recently, I'm curious.
Does Tolkien's estate own the complete rights to LoTR and it's respective works? Nothing in the public domain as such?
Middle-Earth seems like one of the most popular and respected realms in all of fantasy yet it doesn't seem like (to me at least) that there's little interest in producing brand-new adventures and stories set within that realm (i.e. novels, novellas, and such). Nothing in comparison as with Conan or even John Carter.
Is that because of the estate's desire to maintain the integrity of Tolkein's work? Other writers perhaps daunted of the task of trying to measure up to Tolkien in following him? Fear of fan backlash? Or am I misunderstanding the scenarios at hand?
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