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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 12:10:24 GMT -5
I never read Albedo and don't know anything about it other than it's supposed to be an above average anthropomorphic comic. Sad to say this, I've never, ever embraced any form of anthropomorphic comics. I have a difficult time understanding them and the characters are all very weird to me. Sorry about that and Albedo is one of them that I don't care to read and all that. All of these comics don't do anything for me. They aren't my cup of tea! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 13:18:50 GMT -5
I never read Albedo and don't know anything about it other than it's supposed to be an above average anthropomorphic comic. Sad to say this, I've never, ever embraced any form of anthropomorphic comics. I have a difficult time understanding them and the characters are all very weird to me. Sorry about that and Albedo is one of them that I don't care to read and all that. All of these comics don't do anything for me. They aren't my cup of tea! So you don't like Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, or Loony Tunes comics? -M |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 13:49:38 GMT -5
Sad to say this, I've never, ever embraced any form of anthropomorphic comics. I have a difficult time understanding them and the characters are all very weird to me. Sorry about that and Albedo is one of them that I don't care to read and all that. All of these comics don't do anything for me. They aren't my cup of tea! So you don't like Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, or Loony Tunes comics? -M Those are fine with me mrp and the others like Albedo and the likes of them has no grounds for me. In general I've mixed feelings about these comics and I just having a hard time dealing with it. I loved Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, and any comics that associated with Saturday Morning Cartoons. Most of anthropomorphic comics that I hardly picked up at anytime and they don't hold interest in me. Sorry, but true. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 14:18:58 GMT -5
So you don't like Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, or Loony Tunes comics? -M Those are fine with me mrp and the others like Albedo and the likes of them has no grounds for me. In general I've mixed feelings about these comics and I just having a hard time dealing with it. I loved Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, and any comics that associated with Saturday Morning Cartoons. Most of anthropomorphic comics that I hardly picked up at anytime and they don't hold interest in me. Sorry, but true. Well you said and Disney and Loony Toons are anthropomorphic comics, so either you have embraced some form of anthropomorphic comics or you don't like Disney and Loony Toons. Unless you meant something different from what you said, in which case you need to be clearer and avoid hyperbole you don't actually mean. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2017 16:00:48 GMT -5
@mrp ... In this area it's difficult for me to enjoy most anthropomorphic comics and that's been an issue for me in the past 15-20 years and it's a hard area for me to like and dislike them.
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Post by shawnhopkins on Dec 26, 2017 1:17:18 GMT -5
I would have liked to have seen how much crazier Sonic Disruptors would have gotten.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Dec 26, 2017 12:36:31 GMT -5
I find most anthro comics tedious, but Albedo was actually a Hard SF series, very technically and politically minded. I mean, I'm not going to try to make you read it if talking animals just grate on your nerves LOL but it's really a completely different sort of comic (and it's not a cartoon; they're genetically engineered by humans) and it's a shame that because of the visuals it got dismissed by many people who'd have doubtless liked it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 20:41:46 GMT -5
Crossgen’s Negation War tops my list but I’d like to see the end of the Frank Miller/Jim Lee All-Star Batman and Robin and would have liked to have seen more Battle Chasers from Joe Madureira.
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Post by chadwilliam on Dec 31, 2017 1:24:49 GMT -5
Though you don't really expect most titles to end or even have the characters age, Kid Eternity was killed 75 years too soon in his introduction. With that introduction having been made in 1942, 2017 marks the actual year the kid's extended life was apparently set to end. Just thought that interesting.
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Post by hondobrode on Jan 1, 2018 1:24:39 GMT -5
Did you read the Kid Eternity series from Vertigo ?
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Post by profh0011 on Oct 22, 2019 22:21:46 GMT -5
I liked when Howard Chaykin had the unmittigated nerve to have The Shadow disappear from NYC just at the time the pulp series was cancelled, then return decades later, without having aged, while all his assistants had. The pulps had revealed that Kent Allard was friends with millionaire Lamont Cranston, and would often pose as him when the real Cranston was out of town. Chaykin revealed that the real Cranston was a CRIMINAL scumbag who was hiding from The Shadow. I MUCH preferred this version of events to the travesty in the later movie, where The Shadow WAS Cranston, and he was a crimelord, FORCED into a life of being a crime-fighter. I woujld have liked that movie one HELL of a lot better if they hadn't concocted such a TOTAL B***S*** new "origin".
I feel Andy Helfer was one of the most inspired "creative" types back then, whether writing or editing. To be honest, I was NOT crazy about Bill Sienkiewicz' art on Helfer's 1st SHADOW story. Oh well.
But when Kyle Baker got on the art... WOW. The violence was hyped up, but at the same time, the tone of the stories became manic and insanely-funny. I recall Flint Henry was doing something vaguely similar on GRIMJACK.
"The 7 Deadly Finns" is probably my FAVORITE story in the modern-day SHADOW series. I loved it from beginning to end, especially the scene in the first chapter where The Shadow trails a drug pusher to a "blockhouse" which is impervious to police... so he just pulls out a BAZOOKA and blasts it, then, as he steps over the bodies of the drug chemists, says... "The weed of crime bears bitter fruit. The SHADOW knows!"
My ONLY problem was the cliffhanger ending... when The Shadow actually DIES. This was a mistake. Had they pulled a stunt like this later on, when the book had really established itself and perhaps had a much-bigger fanbase, it could have worked. Creatively, it did work... it just came too early, at too dangerous a time in the book's existence.
The idea was clear: a "trilogy" of stories. In the first, he dies. In the 2nd, he's DEAD. In the 3rd, he's alive again, and by the END, he would be made whole. This was established partway into the 2nd story! They were cloning a new body for him.
But that 2nd part of the trilogy must have REALLY rubbed Conde Nast the wrong way, and they PULLED THE PLUG. Too bad.
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Post by dbutler69 on Oct 23, 2019 11:11:09 GMT -5
It looks like I never voted in this poll and it's now expired, but I would have voted for Omega the Unknown. Such a shame that story never got finished.
However, The Eternals and New Gods are other ones I'd love to see finished.
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Post by profh0011 on Oct 23, 2019 11:53:25 GMT -5
In a couple issues of THE DEFENDERS, fill-in writer Steven Grant allegedly finished off the "Omega The Unknown" storyline... but, the general concensus of possibly more than 100% of the readers (heh) was that he SCREWED it over totally and it was felt what he did had no connection with whatever it was Steve Gerber intended.
Perhaps this was some sort of cosmic payback for Steve Gerber having screwed over John Warner's BLOODSTONE back-up series in RAMPAGING HULK magazine.
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Post by berkley on Oct 24, 2019 1:52:14 GMT -5
In a couple issues of THE DEFENDERS, fill-in writer Steven Grant allegedly finished off the " Omega The Unknown" storyline... but, the general concensus of possibly more than 100% of the readers (heh) was that he SCREWED it over totally and it was felt what he did had no connection with whatever it was Steve Gerber intended. Perhaps this was some sort of cosmic payback for Steve Gerber having screwed over John Warner's BLOODSTONE back-up series in RAMPAGING HULK magazine. I wouldn't say "screwed it over", because that implies a certain degree of malice or at least callous disregard. From what I understand, Steven Grant, under the circumstances, couldn't really turn down that assignment and Gerber never held a grudge of any kind towards him for doing the story. Certainly Grant has never claimed that his story was in any way a satisfactory resolution of Gerber's and Skrenes's Omega, as far as I know.
I don't recall right now what Gerber did with Bloodstone, though I must have read it since I was a regular follower of the Rampaging Hulk mag, but I imagine the situation was something similar.
I'm actually much harder on well-known writers of today who, it seems to me, do have some leeway and could refuse to do this kind of thing but go ahead and do it anyway. Maybe I'm wrong about how much freedom they have: I'm not an industry insider and it could very well be that I over-estimate the clout of a "name" writer or underestimate how much they need the gig and can't afford to alienate the powers that be at DC/Marvel, but I feel much more disappointment over a Grant Morrison's handling of the New Gods in various DC series or a highly-publicised Neil Gaiman Eternals book than I do over stuff like Grant's Omega.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 2:37:36 GMT -5
The unfinished PunX by Giffen in the mid-90s drove me nuts with the final issue never coming out. I don't even remember if I loved the first issues all that much, but I did like it enough to want to get that fourth issue, and I thought it was just getting delayed longer and longer. I didn't know that much about the industry - my only news source was that free Comic Shop News newsprint thing. I never considered the possibility that Valiant would put out three issues and never bother with the final one. I eventually concluded that I must have missed it when it came out and so started hunting it in back-issue bins.
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