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Post by batusi on Dec 30, 2017 10:36:33 GMT -5
I bought Ms Mystic #1 at my LCS and then 2 years later #2 finally came out! I remember reading a couple of issues of Megalith and Zero Patrol as well as Echo of Futurepast. I liked some of the characters and concepts but the bad writing and endless delays I just couldn't get passed.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 30, 2017 10:37:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I've read about Adams' "re-working" of Maroto's Cinco elsewhere, also with art samples. Why anybody, even Adams, would think it's necessary to tinker with Maroto's lush, lovely art is beyond me. Not one of his better moments to be sure.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 11:30:39 GMT -5
wow. . reallly well written, and hits my thoughts almost exactly -- in particular the coloring comment you end with! (my thoughts EXACTLY). too bad you never saw the gimmick covers, as that's what I ended up getting on all of mine. Honestly, the Tyvek covers are not bad to look at, tho they do FEEL weird. The Heat-sensing "Hybrids" cover doesn't work, but I figured that was because it was so old. . . I think I noted in my original post, the gimmicks didn't *bother* me, as they don't seem to be charging anything extra for them (the books are all $2.50. . . is that the standard non-gimmick price?). I just wish the interiors weren't so . . . crap. If I hadn't already promised them to my best friend's kid (he's 17), I'd offer to send the Tyvek ones to you so you could see (sorry). but thanks for the input. . well done!
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 30, 2017 11:41:54 GMT -5
Neal has been an innovator in a lot of ways and some of that is technical.
I remember those Tyvek covers. I don't think I remember anyone else ever using them.
Yeah, Skateman ? I have the issue, but how retarded is that ?
Yes, I remember the 2 year wait between issues of Ms Mystic.
The first issue sold 4,995 copies. The second sold 4,075 and it dwindles down to 2,475 with # 9.
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Post by MDG on Dec 30, 2017 13:59:35 GMT -5
I get the feeling that the comics were something Adams had the staff work on when there weren't any client jobs that do, which would explain the casual attitude toward getting them out and the lack of writers or editors on staff.
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 30, 2017 14:12:44 GMT -5
In answer to the question/thread title: Isn't "Continuity Comics" about the worst title you could slap on a line of comics in 1984, when DC Comics in particular was in pearl-clutching crisis mode because "nobody could get into their comics because there was so much darned continuity you had to figure out"?
Also, is there another artist as groundbreaking and talented who went (and has remained, AFAIC) downhill as quickly as Adams? (I'm excepting anyone who might've needed the money, which I'm guessing Adams didn't/ hasn't.)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 14:38:04 GMT -5
In answer to the question/thread title: Isn't "Continuity Comics" about the worst title you could slap on a line of comics in 1984, when DC Comics in particular was in pearl-clutching crisis mode because "nobody could get into their comics because there was so much darned continuity you had to figure out"? Also, is there another artist as groundbreaking and talented who went (and has remained, AFAIC) downhill as quickly as Adams? (I'm excepting anyone who might've needed the money, which I'm guessing Adams didn't/ hasn't.) Continuity Comics was a division of Continuity Associates, a studio co-founded in 1971 by Neal Adams and Dick Giordano, hence the name. I am guessing since storyboarding was a key aspect of their early services offered, and stroyboards are referred to as the visual continuity in the film-making process, that the name was a double nod to both movies and comics, the twin pillars of their business. It was an art studio, not a publishing shop, but they made comics as part of their product portfolio. The comics read like they were put together by an artists studio. By the time they were publishing their own books, Giordano was long gone (and Executive Editor at DC). I think if Giordano had still been a part of it, especially in an editorial capacity, when they were putting out their own comic line, it would have been a very different (and better) animal. -M
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 14:50:29 GMT -5
I'm glad this post spurred such an interesting thread!
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Post by batusi on Dec 30, 2017 15:37:33 GMT -5
Perhaps we can look forward to a future Continuity Omnibus? And maybe if we are lucky Neal Adams can redraw and re-ink a lot of it like he did with the Batman Illustrated volumes??
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 30, 2017 15:57:00 GMT -5
Perhaps we can look forward to a future Continuity Omnibus? And maybe if we are lucky Neal Adams can redraw and re-ink a lot of it like he did with the Batman Illustrated volumes?? Looking as forward to that, as I am to the Trump memoirs.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 30, 2017 16:00:08 GMT -5
Perhaps we can look forward to a future Continuity Omnibus? And maybe if we are lucky Neal Adams can redraw and re-ink a lot of it like he did with the Batman Illustrated volumes?? I don't know if there is a market for it, seeing as the original comics didn't exactly set the world on fire and subsequent generations are mostly ignorant of them. Quite frankly, I wouldn't bother with anything after the initial material, in a kind of "best of" volume. I can't see Neal publishing it himself; maybe licensing it to someone like IDW. Personally, I'd rather have an Atlas/Seaboard volume series than a Continuity.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 30, 2017 16:02:20 GMT -5
Perhaps we can look forward to a future Continuity Omnibus? And maybe if we are lucky Neal Adams can redraw and re-ink a lot of it like he did with the Batman Illustrated volumes?? Looking as forward to that, as I am to the Trump memoirs. Which he will personally buy in bulk to get it on the NYT Bestseller list, like he did for Art of the Deal. I'd rather see a nice comprehensive review of Neal Adams work, both comic book, newspaper strips (the ben casey comic strip he did) and some of his commercial stuff; something like IDW's Toth series.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 16:05:05 GMT -5
Personally, I'd rather have an Atlas/Seaboard volume series than a Continuity. Same here. I wouldn't even care if they did a B&W set similar to DC's Showcase Presents or Marvel's Essentials. Anything!
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