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Post by berkley on Feb 2, 2017 19:31:46 GMT -5
It never occurred to me before that Alex Toth's style might have been a good fit for the Black Panther, but after seeing that "Fox" splash I'm wishing he'd gotten to do a few issues.
Come to think of it, I don't know that Toth ever worked on any of Marvel's characters. Was he strictly a DC artist his whole career, as far as the "Big 2" go?
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Post by berkley on Feb 2, 2017 19:34:52 GMT -5
Was "Blackfeet" a comic book invention or is that term actually used in the real world? I always thought it was Blackfoot, singular and plural.
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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 2, 2017 20:05:39 GMT -5
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 3, 2017 11:27:32 GMT -5
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Post by MDG on Feb 3, 2017 11:59:14 GMT -5
It would be interesting to know what Kirby provided in terms of layouts, i.e., thumbnails or light pencils right on the artboards. But Toth and Kirby had very different ways of telling a story and revealing character, so Toth may have been uncomfortable drawing things as directed when he would've used a different approach. It surprised me that both Toth and Kurtzman spoke highly of their EC collaborations, since they were both control freaks. It may have helped that the stories were airplane- rather than figure-centric. But my guess is that if Toth did more than the two or three stories he did for Kurtzman, there would've been yelling.
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Post by Farrar on Feb 3, 2017 18:23:54 GMT -5
It would be interesting to know what Kirby provided in terms of layouts, i.e., thumbnails or light pencils right on the artboards. From what I have read and seen (much of it in The Jack Kirby Collector, but also in various places online) Kirby didn't do the Marvel 1960s layouts in thumbnail form. He worked on the artboards, and he included his famous margin notes not only for the scripter but also for the benefit of the artist responisble for the more detailed penciling --Toth, Ayers, whomever. Also, John Buscema has remarked in interviews that when he (JB) was new to 1960s Marvel he was given some Kirby layouts for a Hulk assignment, he (JB) erased the layouts as he wanted to tackle it on his own. Here's another article about Kirby's 1960s layouts. This was originally in TJKC # 29 so this online version may be somewhat condensed (edited to add: I see this article contains Buscema's remarks about the layouts): kirbymuseum.org/blogs/effect/2012/08/24/the-best-laid-out-plans/
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Post by Farrar on Feb 3, 2017 19:16:26 GMT -5
And here Mike Esposito talked about doing the pencils over Kirby layouts in the Hulk feature: "According to Esposito, Jack’s layouts looked like rough sketches and you had to pull them together as best you could. Sometimes the Kirby layout pencils were defined enough that Mike could draw over them in ink (as opposed to penciling over the layout, then inking it)." From TJCK #36 and online here: kirbymuseum.org/blogs/effect/category/a-failure-to-communicate/
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Post by berkley on Feb 3, 2017 20:20:29 GMT -5
Those Hulk stories made a big impact on me when I read them in reprint form a few years later in the later 60s or early 70s.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 12:01:39 GMT -5
From Batman 81 The colors are so vivid and I consider it one of the better on that Dick Sprang did in the 50's
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 20:12:29 GMT -5
Beware the Juggernaut ... My SonX-Men #32, May 1967 “Beware The Juggernaut, My Son!”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 9:22:25 GMT -5
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 13, 2018 12:48:35 GMT -5
Why not? Might as well start this and see what happens... Neal Adams in Creepy 75
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 13, 2018 12:50:17 GMT -5
Here's another (I've posted it before...) Rogers and Austin in Detective 475
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 13, 2018 12:53:39 GMT -5
And one more to get things rolling... (You have to ask?) in The Demon 10
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 12:59:29 GMT -5
You can't talk splash pages and not mention Eisner's Spirit... and so many more... -M
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