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Post by DE Sinclair on Sept 24, 2014 11:00:41 GMT -5
Spoilers below for any one reading "Superman: Doomed" or the Booster Gold Futures End one shot. Ye have been warned: Here's a link to an article on CBR regarding a tantalizing hint that the original Earth 2, Wolfman/Perez New Teen Titans, Ted Kord Blue Beetle, Earth X Freedom Fighters, and others, may not be totally lost in the wake of the new 52. People have various interpretations on what it might mean, but I'm hoping that these various characters may get their own Earths in the wake of the Multiversity series and the rumored event next April. If so, maybe we could get to see them occasionally, or maybe even get series based on some of the alternate Earths. Seems like a good way to have the old continuities available without overturning the current status quo. Or I'm dreaming optimistically. We'll see. www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=55745 |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 24, 2014 14:39:13 GMT -5
Man, is the DCU ever screwed up these days... and if Grant Morrison is the one to try to 'fix' it, it's gonna get real ugly, IMO.
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Post by MatthewP on Sept 24, 2014 14:39:15 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see if they do go somewhere specific with all this, but my guess is it'll just continue to open the door to letting them play around with occasional stories (or series?) set in the various other/old universes.
In any case, I'll have to try to pick up that new Booster Gold book; that was one of several series that I was enjoying before the new 52 hit which I was sorry to see go.
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 24, 2014 14:46:30 GMT -5
It's what I've said all along. Nu52 is here to stay, but within that framework of different worlds, we'll see pre-Flash Point, and probably pre-COIE, along with what else they've shown us already.
Best of both worlds (pardon the pun).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 14:50:24 GMT -5
It's what I've said all along. Nu52 is here to stay, but within that framework of different worlds, we'll see pre-Flash Point, and probably pre-COIE, along with what else they've shown us already. Best of both worlds (pardon the pun). Nu52 is only here to stay as long as it remains viable sales-wise, when it falters, DC/Warner will reboot again to try to prop up sales, not necessarily return to pre-Flashpoint, but they will change things again, and again, and again, we live in a society that expects a new version of the same product every few years now and DC will oblige, people can check their Iphone 4, um I mean 5, um I mean 6 or google glass or google watches or whatever the new thing is for the news announcements. Nothing lasts in an ephemeral constantly upgrading to mine the same dollars entertainment economy anymore. -M |
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Post by the4thpip on Sept 24, 2014 15:24:44 GMT -5
It's what I've said all along. Nu52 is here to stay, but within that framework of different worlds, we'll see pre-Flash Point, and probably pre-COIE, along with what else they've shown us already. Best of both worlds (pardon the pun). Nu52 is only here to stay as long as it remains viable sales-wise, when it falters, DC/Warner will reboot again to try to prop up sales, not necessarily return to pre-Flashpoint, but they will change things again, and again, and again, we live in a society that expects a new version of the same product every few years now and DC will oblige, people can check their Iphone 4, um I mean 5, um I mean 6 or google glass or google watches or whatever the new thing is for the news announcements. Nothing lasts in an ephemeral constantly upgrading to mine the same dollars entertainment economy anymore. -M At the same time, you have fans growing up to be writers wanting to write the characters they grew up with the way they know them, not what they have become. So the depowered Superman from post Crisis was back in space without an oxygen tank soon enough, the Green Lantern of Earth was Hal Jordan, the Flash was Barry Allen, Wonder Woman had an invisible plane again etc etc. Even if "Nu52" is here to stay, future writers will make it more like the old world soon enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 15:27:23 GMT -5
Except DC is no longer writer driven, it is editorially driven again as it was through much of the Silver Age, the writers are mostly just plug and play, and if one doesn't want to do what editorial wants for the direction and depiction of the book, they'll just hire another. If those writers want to work for DC, they have to play within the parameters DC editorial sets. Johns is the biggest fanboy of all, and even he is now required to mold what he does to fit the editorial and corporate vision of what the characters need to be to drive sales.
-M
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Post by the4thpip on Sept 24, 2014 15:28:51 GMT -5
But won't the editors 10 years from now be the fans from 5 to 10 years ago, too; same as the writers? I don't see how that parameter shift will stop what I predicted from happening.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 15:34:18 GMT -5
But won't the editors 10 years from now be the fans from 5 to 10 years ago, too; same as the writers? I don't see how that parameter shift will stop what I predicted from happening. The decision making will go further up the ladder by then and the editors will simply be replacable cogs for marketing and film division. Comics are R&D for other media at the big 2, the decisions and directions will further move to aid that, not move backwards to please readers. Didio's background is not as a comic guy, but as a show runner for a soap opera. That is where they will draw editorial form moving forward, not comics guys. -M |
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Post by the4thpip on Sept 24, 2014 15:44:19 GMT -5
But the big hit movies mostly were based on 60s to 90s story lines from the comics!
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Sept 24, 2014 19:04:06 GMT -5
Man, is the DCU ever screwed up these days... and if Grant Morrison is the one to try to 'fix' it, it's gonna get real ugly, IMO. Why would you say that? Morrison seems to just want to bring back the Pre-Crisis DC Universe (particularly the Julius Schwartz edited sci-fi stuff.) What could be more noble than that? |
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Post by Pharozonk on Sept 24, 2014 19:18:47 GMT -5
Man, is the DCU ever screwed up these days... and if Grant Morrison is the one to try to 'fix' it, it's gonna get real ugly, IMO. Morrison seems to be the only person who hasn't been run off by DC editorial who cares about the DC universe's history. |
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Post by Action Ace on Sept 24, 2014 19:38:01 GMT -5
My view is that it is ALL still out there. Adventures are still happening on the original Earth-One, Two, X, S, etc. The Post-Crisis universe is still out there. The various animated series and live action tv shows and movies are still out there. The unlimited number of Elseworlds are out there. Everyone is having adventures and the neverending battle against evil still goes on. It's all just a matter of what DC decides to publish.
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Post by Action Ace on Sept 24, 2014 19:39:32 GMT -5
Man, is the DCU ever screwed up these days... and if Grant Morrison is the one to try to 'fix' it, it's gonna get real ugly, IMO. I doubt there is anyone I'd trust more to do the job and very few I'd trust to do it just as well. |
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Post by the4thpip on Sept 25, 2014 1:34:26 GMT -5
My view is that it is ALL still out there. Adventures are still happening on the original Earth-One, Two, X, S, etc. The Post-Crisis universe is still out there. The various animated series and live action tv shows and movies are still out there. The unlimited number of Elseworlds are out there. Everyone is having adventures and the neverending battle against evil still goes on. It's all just a matter of what DC decides to publish. Well, in my head canon Gladys never fired the Pips, but that still isn't getting me any new music by them. |
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