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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 8, 2023 21:42:15 GMT -5
It didn't look that bad, on the cover of Victory Comics #1, which I saw in Ron Goulart's Great History of Comic Books..... It was Hillman, but, their bread and butter was Airboy and the Airfgihters,
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Post by tartanphantom on Sept 11, 2023 15:48:53 GMT -5
It didn't look that bad, on the cover of Victory Comics #1, which I saw in Ron Goulart's Great History of Comic Books..... It was Hillman, but, their bread and butter was Airboy and the Airfgihters,
At least the Hillman Airboy titles frequently benefited (some would question that) from artwork by Fred Kida, which was interesting, to say the least.
Not knocking Bill Everett's linework on Victory Comics cover, but the colorist obviously took a powder that day. And I've seen much better from Everett, who really hit his stride as he got older. He pretty much took a "fill every possible space with the kitchen sink" approach to this one, though.
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Post by jason on Sept 12, 2023 8:39:48 GMT -5
I find it odd that despite being a blind superhero, there have never been attempts to produce audio versions of Daredevil stories for the blind (braillie comics arent really something you can pull off). Obviously it would be cost-prohibitive to have an audio version of every issue, but you could do it for major storylines or even past stories like Born Again.
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Post by MDG on Sept 12, 2023 9:56:38 GMT -5
I find it odd that despite being a blind superhero, there have never been attempts to produce audio versions of Daredevil stories for the blind (braillie comics arent really something you can pull off). Obviously it would be cost-prohibitive to have an audio version of every issue, but you could do it for major storylines or even past stories like Born Again. If you ever tried listening to the radio show version of the Fantastic Four from the 70s, you'd know the reason why. Basically, they were the Grantray-Lawrence Marvel cartoons without the pictures.
Seriously, though, we know, of course, that there were plenty of comic adaptations on the radio in the 30s and 40s, but it would be an interesting experiment to have an audio drama from the POV (so to speak) of a blind character.
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 12, 2023 16:07:41 GMT -5
Another "creator" who took too much credit. Grabbed from Facebook
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 12, 2023 20:17:10 GMT -5
Kane got sued by the guy who did the Batman lithographs he was doing, back around the 1st Burton film; but, that is the first I have heard of something going further back, unless the, in terms if time frame.
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Post by jason on Sept 12, 2023 20:28:58 GMT -5
I find it odd that despite being a blind superhero, there have never been attempts to produce audio versions of Daredevil stories for the blind (braillie comics arent really something you can pull off). Obviously it would be cost-prohibitive to have an audio version of every issue, but you could do it for major storylines or even past stories like Born Again. If you ever tried listening to the radio show version of the Fantastic Four from the 70s, you'd know the reason why. Basically, they were the Grantray-Lawrence Marvel cartoons without the pictures.
Bill Murray as Johnny Storm was just odd to hear.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 12, 2023 22:36:42 GMT -5
If you ever tried listening to the radio show version of the Fantastic Four from the 70s, you'd know the reason why. Basically, they were the Grantray-Lawrence Marvel cartoons without the pictures.
Bill Murray as Johnny Storm was just odd to hear. Well, he and Chevy were a bit like Johnny and Ben, except more vitriolic.
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Post by MDG on Sept 13, 2023 6:50:38 GMT -5
If you ever tried listening to the radio show version of the Fantastic Four from the 70s, you'd know the reason why. Basically, they were the Grantray-Lawrence Marvel cartoons without the pictures.
Bill Murray as Johnny Storm was just odd to hear. I don't think he sounded odd--just like he couldn't be less interested in what he was doing.
What's odd is the producers didn't feel they needed to add any narration or dialogue to explain what was going on.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 13, 2023 7:34:24 GMT -5
An interesting question that has been asked, was John Byrne ever invited to participate in the Image books when they were introduced? Turns out Byrne had/has a serious dislike for the young upstarts that branched out on their own. Rob Liefeld states in one of his podcasts, that he called Byrne and asked him if he would take over the Supreme book starting with issue #6. He offered him 150k an issue. Byrne said no and that he'd already written Superman.
In 2000 , Erik Larsen did a 12 issue series called FF Worlds Greatest comic magazine and asked Byrne if he wanted to do any of the issues.It as a tribute book that feature many artists that were drawing in the Jack Kirbys style. Either he never responded or he email a simple no to Larsen.
Turning down 150k per issue. Pride is a terrible thing. A quick check shows that he was doing JB next men during that time after just finishing his Second She Hulk run. I remember hearing that his books were selling around 50-70k around that time. I guess he felt that he couldn't work for people that he spent so much time bashing in the fan press. The sad part is that the Image 7 absolutely worshipped Byrne.
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Post by tartanphantom on Sept 13, 2023 7:39:34 GMT -5
Bill Murray as Johnny Storm was just odd to hear. I don't think he sounded odd--just like he couldn't be less interested in what he was doing.
What's odd is the producers didn't feel they needed to add any narration or dialogue to explain what was going on.
You can say that again. I found it pretty much the same as hearing a 60's Marvel cartoon episode from another room but not being able to see the hokey "animation"; and yet all the while being voiced by Second City comedy alumni.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 13, 2023 11:37:27 GMT -5
An interesting question that has been asked, was John Byrne ever invited to participate in the Image books when they were introduced? Turns out Byrne had/has a serious dislike for the young upstarts that branched out on their own. Rob Liefeld states in one of his podcasts, that he called Byrne and asked him if he would take over the Supreme book starting with issue #6. He offered him 150k an issue. Byrne said no and that he'd already written Superman. In 2000 , Erik Larsen did a 12 issue series called FF Worlds Greatest comic magazine and asked Byrne if he wanted to do any of the issues.It as a tribute book that feature many artists that were drawing in the Jack Kirbys style. Either he never responded or he email a simple no to Larsen. Turning down 150k per issue. Pride is a terrible thing. A quick check shows that he was doing JB next men during that time after just finishing his Second She Hulk run. I remember hearing that his books were selling around 50-70k around that time. I guess he felt that he couldn't work for people that he spent so much time bashing in the fan press. The sad part is that the Image 7 absolutely worshipped Byrne. Byrne went on the attack pretty early on. Next Men contained an editorial column, title A Flame About This High (as in, "You know what burns my @$$?") and he fired several salvos across the Image bows. An ironic one was criticizing them for doing the same thing they had been doing at Marvel. There was a pot & kettle moment!
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 13, 2023 11:39:41 GMT -5
It boiled down to simple jealousy.
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Post by tonebone on Sept 15, 2023 9:33:48 GMT -5
It boiled down to simple jealousy. That seems like a wholly presumptuous and over-generalized statement.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 15, 2023 20:07:10 GMT -5
It boiled down to simple jealousy. That seems like a wholly presumptuous and over-generalized statement. You have a better theory?
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