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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 19, 2024 16:19:03 GMT -5
Don't you miss when comics were wholesome and just had sharks biting kids heads off ?
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Post by driver1980 on Jun 20, 2024 6:46:46 GMT -5
Saw this on Twitter, first time I’ve seen it:
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Post by Batflunkie on Jun 20, 2024 8:30:39 GMT -5
Saw this on Twitter, first time I’ve seen it: That artwork looks like it belongs on a Trapper Keeper
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 20, 2024 12:07:51 GMT -5
Saw this on Twitter, first time I’ve seen it: That artwork looks like it belongs on a Trapper Keeper Nah; you usually got a Romita model design or a repurposed pin-up for Marvel merch, in the Trapper Keeper era. Here was the lunch box that a friend of mine had.... I had a Peanuts one. I always wanted the Marvel one, but the Peanuts one would be worth more, if I still had it (and it still had the handle and the lid wasn't badly dented....) No, that looks more like the cover art to the handful of Marvel prose paperbacks, from the late 70s/dawn of the 80s. Or something you saw painted on the side of a custom van.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Jun 20, 2024 13:11:48 GMT -5
Jeff Butler (who did that cover) did most of the art for TSR's Marvel Super Hero game and other products. He was staff artist for TSR (not to be confused with Steven Butler who did pencils on several 90s Spidey comics, though I conflated the two for many years during the 90s. Jeff Butler did have some comic credits, particularly on Badger (First) and Green Hornet (Now) and was the interior artist on Godzilla vs. Barkley. Here's some other TSR art by Jeff Butler... his line art had a bit of a different look and feel than his painted art when he was at TSR. -M
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Post by kirby101 on Jun 20, 2024 13:57:36 GMT -5
Better to say nothing at all.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 20, 2024 14:43:36 GMT -5
Jeff Butler (who did that cover) did most of the art for TSR's Marvel Super Hero game and other products. He was staff artist for TSR (not to be confused with Steven Butler who did pencils on several 90s Spidey comics, though I conflated the two for many years during the 90s. Jeff Butler did have some comic credits, particularly on Badger (First) and Green Hornet (Now) and was the interior artist on Godzilla vs. Barkley. Here's some other TSR art by Jeff Butler... his line art had a bit of a different look and feel than his painted art when he was at TSR. -M The FF one look s like Dr Doom should sound like John Stephenson.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Jun 20, 2024 14:47:48 GMT -5
Butler was never a particular favorite, but he was ubiquitous in the 80s, especially in the part of the Venn diagram of nerd culture where comics and ttrpg overlapped.
-M
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Post by jason on Jun 21, 2024 0:04:47 GMT -5
Why is Thing wearing a tank top on that pic of them versus Doom?
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Jun 21, 2024 0:29:33 GMT -5
Why is Thing wearing a tank top on that pic of them versus Doom? That was the outfit/costume he was wearing at the time in the comics... and a take on the costume he wore in his solo series when he was involved with wrestling -M
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Post by foxley on Jun 21, 2024 3:38:01 GMT -5
I just discovered that aside from his work on comics, film posters and book covers, Greg Hildebrandt also did some conventional advertising art. Here is a piece he did for Horton Snowboards: And one for Jeep:
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 21, 2024 8:37:59 GMT -5
I think there used to be a thread for this sort of thing, but I couldn't find it. I watched an episode of CHIPS last night (the second episode, I think) and Ponch was laying in a hospital bed reading a comic, with another on the bed. I couldn't tell what the comic he was reading was (though I think I saw a DC house ad) but the other one was an issue of Action Comics.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Jun 21, 2024 10:00:00 GMT -5
-M
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Post by kirby101 on Jun 21, 2024 11:44:30 GMT -5
Are the stories or storytelling better because the boots have laces?
And i am not asking for 2 pages a day, just a 20 page comic in a month, so that there isn't a fill-in artist after 3 issues.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Jun 21, 2024 12:25:45 GMT -5
Are the stories or storytelling better because the boots have laces? And i am not asking for 2 pages a day, just a 20 page comic in a month, so that there isn't a fill-in artist after 3 issues.
Here's the thing, it's what the audience expects and it's lack leads to customer dissatisfaction and loss of what remains of your audience, therefore, it is what editors demand if they are going to hire you. That's the market reality whether old timers like it or not or how much we try to justify or rationalize our denial and curmudgeonliness. It may not offer "storytelling benefits" in our eyes, but it offers a level of verisimilitude that contemporary audiences demand/need for them to be able to suspend their disbelief and buy into the comic fantasy of super-heroes. Do enhances graphics improve actual gameplay over 8 bit graphics in video games-in some ways yes but not necessarily, but modern game consumers demand that level of realism in the graphics of their games. The same is true with modern game consumers. Same parallel with audience expectations in film compared to stop motion animation or some other practical effects in films and television. So while old school fans can't see the point of it (because it doesn't jibe with their sensibilities), there is a point and its rooted in the fact that time has passed and consumer expectations have changed. One may not personally agree with the changed standard, but that doesn't make them any less of a market reality. And it just means that some (older) consumers are out of step with the current market realities. Not saying one is better or worse, just that there is a reality that makes the new standards relevant to what level fo commercial success they can achieve. -M
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