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Post by cee on Aug 4, 2018 16:20:44 GMT -5
a future Bobby Drake comes back from the future and advises his younger self to grow a beard, since it would be very popular with the ladies. Welllllllllll....  I hope you see how this could work against your point as easily  |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 4, 2018 16:26:31 GMT -5
a future Bobby Drake comes back from the future and advises his younger self to grow a beard, since it would be very popular with the ladies. Welllllllllll.... I hope you see how this could work against your point as easily Ha! Yes it could, but it was done in a bragging fashion. |
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Post by brianf on Aug 4, 2018 16:35:15 GMT -5
"Absolutely, except that Bobby is the original and Alan was a rebooted version. Bobby had been described as hetero for decades while Alan was essentially a new character modelled after a classic one." I've been reading the current X-Men titles as my library has been getting them (and I hesitate to answer because I need to re-read them) but I'm pretty sure it's been indicated that the X-Men who came through time are not actually the same as the regular X-Men - The time traveling X-Men (w/ the gay Iceman) have been trying to get back to their original time but have been unable to. Maybe this has been clarified, but what I remember reading kinda muddies the water. Maybe they're from a different dimension or something? Anyway, I've been enjoying reading it and I try to be patient - this fiction stuff, hey, anything can happen! Written by BrianF (I think I failed at the quote feature) |
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Post by cee on Aug 4, 2018 16:37:43 GMT -5
Welllllllllll.... I hope you see how this could work against your point as easily Ha! Yes it could, but it was done in a bragging fashion. Still, as hopelessly mustached heterosexual as I am (I'been working in fashion and in gay bands, so I know where I stand ), I'm still somewhat flattered by the looks I get when I'm at gay parties or gay bar areas. On a side note, I wanted to say that in the end, what we really don't want are lame boring comics that makes us forget our passion. THinking about the dozens if not hundreds of comics you bought with your own cash and that you can't even remember, isn't it cool to see that such a story could ignite such passion in you? At least it achieved that |
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 4, 2018 17:14:16 GMT -5
(Doctor Who geek mode, activate!) The computer in 'The War Games' (1966) referred to Hartnell as 'Doctor Who', but shortly after that, Troughton once used an alias 'Doctor von Wehr', using the German word for 'Who'...and in another story, once left a note signed 'Doctor W.' I have a false memory of some character exclaiming 'Doctor Who!' as Tom Baker burst into a room. Might have been a dream! I thought I'd seen it all, but Tom Baker reading a Target paperback slipped my mind. Do you remember which story it was? (Obviously, the Fourth Doctor read the early issues of 'Doctor Who Weekly'!) (Doctor Who geek mode, deactivate!) Ah, I had Troughton in that post office tower computer story when it was Hartnell, oops! Ha, and it was The War Machines not Games I think. Games was Troughton.  I think the Tom Baker story where he pulls out a Who paperback of some kind is when he is pinned under some debris. Romana II I think is in it and had those white uniformed robots with corn-row hair... and some Daleks and davros I think, been a long time. May've been a Douglas Adams as either script-editor or writer thing. |
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Post by comicsandwho on Aug 4, 2018 17:21:53 GMT -5
(Doctor Who geek mode, activate!) The computer in 'The War Games' (1966) referred to Hartnell as 'Doctor Who', but shortly after that, Troughton once used an alias 'Doctor von Wehr', using the German word for 'Who'...and in another story, once left a note signed 'Doctor W.' I have a false memory of some character exclaiming 'Doctor Who!' as Tom Baker burst into a room. Might have been a dream! I thought I'd seen it all, but Tom Baker reading a Target paperback slipped my mind. Do you remember which story it was? (Obviously, the Fourth Doctor read the early issues of 'Doctor Who Weekly'!) (Doctor Who geek mode, deactivate!) Ah, I had Troughton in that post office tower computer story when it was Hartnell, oops! Ha, and it was The War Machines not Games I think. Games was Troughton. I think the Tom Baker story where he pulls out a Who paperback of some kind is when he is pinned under some debris. Romana II I think is in it and had those white uniformed robots with corn-row hair... and some Daleks and davros I think, been a long time. May've been a Douglas Adams as either script-editor or writer thing. Oh, OK...'Destiny of the Daleks'. That was the start of the season Adams script-edited the show. I do remember him reading paperback. But I thought he was reading 'Hitchhiker's Guide...'? The Hartnell/Troughton thing: 'The War Machines' introduced the companions Ben and Polly. One year(and one regeneration)later, they were written out, in 'The Faceless Ones'...which ended with them realizing that they had returned on the same day they had left with the Doctor in 'The War Machines'! Unofficial first instance of timey-wimey being wibbly-wobbly.  |
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 4, 2018 17:43:49 GMT -5
Polly (Anneke Wills) used to live on a island near me for ages, didn't know she had been considered vanished by Who fans. I liked her in the Strange Report and a couple of The Avengers, and she was in a '60s movie too. That Destiny Of The Daleks may've been one of the most blooper-filled episodes yet as I think it had Romana going through a whole whack of regenerations in the first few minutes! Hitchhiker's wasn't written yet I don't think if it was something Adams grew from a rejected Tom Baker era Who script which I've read it was. I wonder if they'll ever re-launch Star trek with a female Kirk? Maybe not as they got some of the out of the system with Janeway in Voyager. But some of the fan-fiction about a Kirk & Spock relationship becoming official one day? Hoo nose...  |
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Post by comicsandwho on Aug 4, 2018 20:32:24 GMT -5
Cool info! I'd seen mentions in 'Doctor Who Magazine' of Anneke Wills living in various places(South Africa as of the mid-80s, and India more recently; didn't know about Canada til now, as Hornby Island has a wiki entry;-) ) Guess it's a bit like Catalina, off the southern California coast, is, or was? Hitchhiker's Guide: Original (radio) version was 1978; the first novel was published about a month after 'Destiny' aired. The 'Doctor Who' connection I've heard of is that the 'Dirk Gently' books/TV series were adapted from material he'd already used for 'Doctor Who'('City of Death' involved time-travel and timeline-altering; and the unfinished story 'Shada' had the same setting 'St. Cedd's College', and a major character, 'Professor Chronotis', who, in 'Shada' has a TARDIS disguised as his study, and who knew the Doctor and Romana on Gallifrey; all Adams had to do was not mention 'that Who stuff' owned by the BBC, and the character's backstory survived pretty much intact! Star Trek: Kirk could also be made gay; how many times on TOS did he sign off a transmission by saying 'Kirk, out'? Just take that literally... |
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Post by String on Aug 5, 2018 10:52:25 GMT -5
"Absolutely, except that Bobby is the original and Alan was a rebooted version. Bobby had been described as hetero for decades while Alan was essentially a new character modelled after a classic one." I've been reading the current X-Men titles as my library has been getting them (and I hesitate to answer because I need to re-read them) but I'm pretty sure it's been indicated that the X-Men who came through time are not actually the same as the regular X-Men - The time traveling X-Men (w/ the gay Iceman) have been trying to get back to their original time but have been unable to. Maybe this has been clarified, but what I remember reading kinda muddies the water. Maybe they're from a different dimension or something? Anyway, I've been enjoying reading it and I try to be patient - this fiction stuff, hey, anything can happen! Written by BrianF (I think I failed at the quote feature) Recent issues of X-Men Blue by Cullen Bunn (especially the arc 'Cross-Time Capers') firmly establishes that these five young X-Men are indeed the original X-Men of the past. So Bobby Drake has been gay since 1963. Jean Grey is still alive and well (and trying to save the world!) Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson are still split (but they're working on it ) Marvel at your service, keeping your passion fires lit! |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Aug 6, 2018 12:02:22 GMT -5
Watching some of these videos it's almost shocking how little they know about comics.
"Marvel superheroes are fighting with each other! This proves that Marvel has no morals left and has lost their way and SJW, SJW, SJW, BLAAAAJ!"
You, uh, you never read Fantastic Four # 1 or Amazing Spider-Man # 1, didja sport?
I can't believe how many subscribers this guy has, but racist idiocy that ignores actual facts and imagines pretend facts to get angry about is "in" right now I guess.
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Post by brianf on Aug 24, 2018 21:53:04 GMT -5
In this week in ComicsGate - Bill Sienkiewicz spoke out against the harassment of Darwyn Cookes widow Jeff Lemires take More info via Atomic Junkshop This stuff is so tiring and disappointing - it's like human beings don't know how to use the internet yet. |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Aug 25, 2018 3:31:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the links, brianf. I re-posted the first two in the comments to that piece at the Atomic Junk Shop.
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Post by brianf on Aug 28, 2018 19:50:17 GMT -5
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 29, 2018 5:59:42 GMT -5
It is good to see people rely on eloquence and the rationality of their arguments to elevate the debate. It gives me faith in the future of public discourse. Well done, twitterers, well done indeed. True Atticus Finches, the lot of them.
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Post by brianf on Aug 30, 2018 21:44:44 GMT -5
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