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Post by Søren on Aug 5, 2018 4:33:01 GMT -5
Not sure if this is the correct board since its not been made yet or had any trailer but... 2000ad's Rogue Trooper is getting a film Or should be. It was teased a little while ago but seems to be more official now and being worked on. There was a fan film made but this seems like it will be a bigger budget event link: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-44860808Anyone think they might see it? With all the DC/Marvel around I'm not sure how this will be taken. So far only Dredd has had any films and that was first a disaster (the 1995 one) then amazing with the 2012 Dredd film. He getting a tv show too. Seems someone is taken chance on other works Rogue though I guess is most plausible to have a film after Dredd, there has been games released and the story itself being about war just means a film would be easier.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 5, 2018 9:03:14 GMT -5
As you know, I only read one full year's worth of 2000 AD. I thought I'd gotten a sampling of all the major franchises in that time. Disappointed to learn that I've never heard of Rogue Trooper. What am I missing?
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 6, 2018 0:24:52 GMT -5
As you know, I only read one full year's worth of 2000 AD. I thought I'd gotten a sampling of all the major franchises in that time. Disappointed to learn that I've never heard of Rogue Trooper. What am I missing? Sci-fi military series, with genetically engineered soldiers; one of whom breaks programming. The Kurt Russell film, Soldier, swiped much of the premise (though there were already prose sci-fi antecedents). Good, mature, well done feature. Started out with Dave Gibbons on art. Gibbons came back to it in 1989, with Will Simpson, called War Machine, which altered things, with a new Trooper. It was printed in Heavy Metal, as well as its own album, in the US.
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Post by cee on Aug 6, 2018 2:57:33 GMT -5
Sci-fi military series, with genetically engineered soldiers; one of whom breaks programming. The Kurt Russell film, Soldier, swiped much of the premise (though there were already prose sci-fi antecedents). Good, mature, well done feature. Started out with Dave Gibbons on art. Gibbons came back to it in 1989, with Will Simpson, called War Machine, which altered things, with a new Trooper. It was printed in Heavy Metal, as well as its own album, in the US. You're missing the core of the concept : the soldier's weapons and gear (helmet and backpack) all talk to him constantly, because they all have a chip with the mind of previously deceased platoon members fully bio-digitalized. This makes for a very unusal dialogue (which also probably is why the series never got Judge Dredd/Slaine popular, as the technique can feel a tad annoying at times, despite its charm). And it also is not really a military series but an anti-military one, owning quite a lot to Johnny's got a gun from Dalton Trumbo in concept, and to an "all sides are evil in war" mentality. But of course, being that 2000AD still was a boys magazine, it's not that subtle as even if highly anti-military in essence, it still mostly features battles and man to man combat At fist it was also essentially a US civil war riff. The original Finlay-Day run ran for about 200 issues between 1981 and 1985. Alan Moore wrote three single issue stories. Several other writers such as Tomlison, Milligan, Rennie, Dillon, Geller, Mills, Morrison, etc also took part. There's even an IDW original ongoing from a few years back. The 1989 Gibbons reboot missed the point (he eliminated the biochip parts) that the series was enjoyed as an odd team book. He was swiftly removed from the series to be replaced by a series of first aid writers, incuding Mark Millar, having to figure out how this new Friday character fitted out in hte previous continuity. This run ended in 1996 and saw crossovers with Judge Dredd. It isn't fondly remembered. The original Rogue Trooper has come back to publication in 2002, on and off since then, with adventures set before his death, the most recent ones being written by James RObinson or Alex de Campi.
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Post by Søren on Aug 6, 2018 11:40:12 GMT -5
^ what they said I did post a some pictures in my 2000ad thread of the latest story. Also few years ago a new spin off was started 'Jaegir' which shows the conflict from the Norts perspective. If you want to get to know the Rogue Trooper world guess might help to read that since there is less to catch up with.
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Post by Rob Allen on Aug 6, 2018 17:36:58 GMT -5
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Post by Søren on Aug 7, 2018 11:41:37 GMT -5
Sorry didn't see was already a thread Can merge them maybe?
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Post by berkley on Aug 7, 2018 13:22:25 GMT -5
I missed all the 2000AD stuff when it first come out in the 1980s but I have been reading a few of the collections lately, including the first Rogue Trooper book and I<ve enjoyed it so far. So yes, I would probably give the movie a try unless it looked really bad in the previews.
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Post by cee on Aug 7, 2018 14:17:21 GMT -5
I just realized a weird thing : the main basic draw to the series probably its design : a topless blueskined warrior in a vietnam war like outfit. That was a striking image! But the thing is that for years, that was only on the cover, since the mag was in black and white, wasn't it? I never was super into it, so I don't remember if it ever got allocated those famous two inner color pages that Dredd mostly got, as a first stage towards color in the 80ies...
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Post by Søren on Aug 8, 2018 10:01:08 GMT -5
As far as I know only Dredd got colour to start with. I don't have a lot of the very old 2000ad comics to check. Saw trade collection once and don't remember it was in colour, could be wrong. But your right is odd now think of it to have a characters main feature not something you are able to show, guess artist just had to rely on readers good imagination And with that in mind who would play Rogue in a film, as they have to be painted or just use CGI
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Post by Confessor on Aug 9, 2018 21:01:24 GMT -5
Yeah, Rogue Trooper was never in colour in old 2000ADs, unless the character was featured on the front cover, of course. Only the comic's flagship strip, Judge Dredd, utilised two pages of colour...and even that limited amount of 4-colour was unusual for a British Weekly comic of the time.
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Post by berkley on Aug 10, 2018 23:48:54 GMT -5
Yeah, reading the reprints, I only remember that he's blue-skinned if they happen to mention it in the dialogue or narration (narration? in a comic? who ever heard if such a thing?!). But I've taken to looking up online the cover and contents to each issue of 2000AD the particular instalment of Rogue Warrior I'm reading appeared in so I'm seeing some of the colour cover images in that way.
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Post by tingramretro on Aug 11, 2018 9:41:53 GMT -5
Yeah, Rogue Trooper was never in colour in old 2000ADs, unless the character was featured on the front cover, of course. Only the comic's flagship strip, Judge Dredd, utilised two pages of colour...and even that limited amount of 4-colour was unusual for a British Weekly comic of the time. Sorry to contradict, but Dredd didn't always get the colour centrespread. In early issues, other strips were occasionally awarded that honour, most notably Dan Dare, and on at least one occasion the ABC Warriors.
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Post by tingramretro on Aug 11, 2018 10:09:16 GMT -5
Sci-fi military series, with genetically engineered soldiers; one of whom breaks programming. The Kurt Russell film, Soldier, swiped much of the premise (though there were already prose sci-fi antecedents). Good, mature, well done feature. Started out with Dave Gibbons on art. Gibbons came back to it in 1989, with Will Simpson, called War Machine, which altered things, with a new Trooper. It was printed in Heavy Metal, as well as its own album, in the US. You're missing the core of the concept : the soldier's weapons and gear (helmet and backpack) all talk to him constantly, because they all have a chip with the mind of previously deceased platoon members fully bio-digitalized. This makes for a very unusal dialogue (which also probably is why the series never got Judge Dredd/Slaine popular, as the technique can feel a tad annoying at times, despite its charm). And it also is not really a military series but an anti-military one, owning quite a lot to Johnny's got a gun from Dalton Trumbo in concept, and to an "all sides are evil in war" mentality. But of course, being that 2000AD still was a boys magazine, it's not that subtle as even if highly anti-military in essence, it still mostly features battles and man to man combat At fist it was also essentially a US civil war riff. The original Finlay-Day run ran for about 200 issues between 1981 and 1985. Alan Moore wrote three single issue stories. Several other writers such as Tomlison, Milligan, Rennie, Dillon, Geller, Mills, Morrison, etc also took part. There's even an IDW original ongoing from a few years back. The 1989 Gibbons reboot missed the point (he eliminated the biochip parts) that the series was enjoyed as an odd team book. He was swiftly removed from the series to be replaced by a series of first aid writers, incuding Mark Millar, having to figure out how this new Friday character fitted out in hte previous continuity. This run ended in 1996 and saw crossovers with Judge Dredd. It isn't fondly remembered. That's an understatement! When the original Rogue first reappeared in 2000, there was a great opening splash page of him standing in front of a wall on which someone had scrawled "Thank God it's Not Friday"!
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Post by Confessor on Aug 11, 2018 11:06:11 GMT -5
Yeah, Rogue Trooper was never in colour in old 2000ADs, unless the character was featured on the front cover, of course. Only the comic's flagship strip, Judge Dredd, utilised two pages of colour...and even that limited amount of 4-colour was unusual for a British Weekly comic of the time. Sorry to contradict, but Dredd didn't always get the colour centrespread. In early issues, other strips were occasionally awarded that honour, most notably Dan Dare, and on at least one occasion the ABC Warriors. Ah, OK. I'm sure you're right. My best mate and I were reading 2000AD from about 1980 onwards and I always remember Dredd having the two colour pages during that period. Actually, thinking about it, I did know that Dredd started in black & white, before it became popular enough to get the colour pages, I guess, but that was before my time reading the comic.
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