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Post by comicsandwho on Sept 23, 2018 1:08:49 GMT -5
I remember buying Star Wars reprints three to a bag, but aside from them I never bought Marvels or DCs that way. When I first saw a DC with the Whitman logo in the corner I thought it was something rare. Do people rate those as less desirable than the regular DC editions?
This one is super-rare, one I wouldn't mind owning.
I'm indifferent about many of the others, including Treasury Editions. In some instances, I have both regular book and Whitman.
This one is somewhat unusual in that the usual 'bagged' printings of earlier issues that title replaced the 'DC' symbol, basically changing the name of the book to 'Whitman Comics Presents'. I had the first four issues, Whitman-style, and even found a few more in 1981, when #s 14 and 15 were mysteriously on sale at a drug store, two years after publication. I believe there was one Marvel tabloid (possibly Spider-Man reprints) that had a 'Whitman' logo(alongside Marvel name, rather than replacing it).
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Post by comicsandwho on Sept 23, 2018 1:28:42 GMT -5
DC Comics Presents. Now that's something I miss from the 80s. Every issue not only had a different co-star for Superman, but an entirely different creative team. Being a child of the mid 80s, I didn't come across this series until the mid 90s. It didn't hurt that I read most of them totally out of sequence (think I got #25 first with the Phantom Stranger, then #7 with Red Tornado). I found #26 with the Teen Titans in NM in a BARGAIN BIN of all places, cost me a whopping $2 Only acquired #47 with MOTU a couple years ago, in another bargain lot with a series of issues that cost about 81 cents each. Glad I got lucky with these books, the covers are colourful and gorgeous too. I lived for that first weekend of the month, when DCCP and Justice League of America went on sale. Just about every other comic I got back then, aside from other 'team-up' books, felt like a substitute to make up for the fact that they only published those two titles once a month. After a long gap following # 4, my first DCCP off the spinner rack was # 17, an awesome Superman-Firestorm-Killer Frost story, by Jose Luis Garcia Lopez, featuring 'frosty, mind-controlled Supes' protecting KF from Firestorm's blast(Stormy found a perfectly valid 'comic book logic' way to snap Superman out of the trance). The Deadman team-up in # 24 was another 'instant classic', that picked up from the end of Deadman's series in Adventure Comics, and wrapped things up nicely for him. The next issue was the beginning of the 8-page back-up of 'Whatever Happened To...' heroes not seen in quite a few years(best remembered for the Crimson Avenger tale in # 38). Even if it was a character I'd never seen/heard of before, like Rex the Wonder Dog, or Richard Dragon, they managed to make it worth reading. Maybe the most memorable issue, aside from # 26 including the 'New Teen Titans' preview, was a 50th-issue meeting of Superman and...Clark Kent(which made the 1982 'Year's Best Stories' digest, just as the Sergeant Rock story from # 10 had for 1979). I felt that in the last couple of years, things seemed to drag, and the book needed a bit unceremoniously with # 97, as the John Byrne 'reboot' meant the book had to go in mid-86, so no anniversary issue. That final issue, by Steve Gerber, was billed as having taken place 'before Crisis'...but, curiously, Gerber used Bizarro and Mxyztplk in much the same fashion that Alan Moore did that same month, in his two-part 'farewell' in Superman and Action. I REALLY wanted a Superman-Jonah Hex team-up for issue # 100...but they did that eventually.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Sept 23, 2018 4:36:52 GMT -5
This one is somewhat unusual in that the usual 'bagged' printings of earlier issues that title replaced the 'DC' symbol, basically changing the name of the book to 'Whitman Comics Presents'. I had the first four issues, Whitman-style, and even found a few more in 1981, when #s 14 and 15 were mysteriously on sale at a drug store, two years after publication. Yep, those are the ones I recall, as well as Action, Detective, Batman, Superman, Superboy and the Legion and a bunch of others. The replacement of the logo on the cover was really the only change. The indicia on the bottom of the first page is the same as on the regular DC titles, meaning it says that the book's title is, e.g. "DC Comics Presents," published by DC, etc., etc. (and nothing was added anywhere to mention the Whitman imprint or Western Publishing). And they were common as dirt. In fact, I found DC Comics Presents #3 here in Zagreb in a long-box full of American comics, with the Whitman logo on the cover:
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Post by jason on Sept 23, 2018 21:33:43 GMT -5
The best part of the 3 pack was the sometimes oddball stuff they'd stick in with the other comics. I've bought 3 packs with oddities in them like Black Goliath (in a 3 pack where the other two were early 90s books) and an issue of Marvel's adaptation of Dune. While we're on the topic of 3 packs, does anyone remember when First comics used this method? I remember a dollar store had a ton of 3 packs of First comics books (mostly 86-89 titles). I got as many as possible and it introduced me to a lot of new books I previously never would have discovered on my own (American Flagg, Nexus, Grimjack, Badger). Back on topic, I miss dialogue on comic covers. Though it was usually ridiculous hype, it made you want to know what exactly was going on in the comic to get to this scene.
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Post by badwolf on Sept 23, 2018 23:38:21 GMT -5
The only Whitman version I remember having was an issue of Action, or maybe Superman...I think it was with the Atomic Skull? If it came in a 3-pack, I don't remember what was with it.
I have gotten other 3-packs, but they were not Whitman editions. I remember getting: Star Wars #7-9, and #13-15 Battlestar Galactica #1-3 Smurfs #1-3 (I was desperate, my family was away on vacation and I needed my fix)
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Post by urrutiap on Sept 24, 2018 0:16:31 GMT -5
Some of you other older comic book readers are more luckier than me from back in the day in the early and mid 1980s
Those Whitmans 3 comics in one bag that I saw at the grocery store when I was a kid, it was that one issue of Flash Gordon, Magnus Robot Fighter and the usual Donald Duck or Mickey Mouse comic.
Other than that, my parents would buy the regular single issues of Groo, Spider Ham, Alpha Flight, Elfquest or even G.I. Joe from the newsstand section at the grocery stores or drug pharmacy store. Even an issue of Cracked or Mad magazine back in my day when I was a kid.
Funny that the Whitmans bagged comics which was mostly consisted of Flash Gordon or Magnus Robot Fighter they were still being sold after the Flash Gordon movie was done showing in theaters. At the time, I guess the bagged Whitmans comics were just popular at at the time in the early and mid 1980s in out in the boondocks small towns grocery stores
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Post by urrutiap on Sept 24, 2018 0:17:35 GMT -5
Wish I had a time machine so I could go back in time sometime at least in 1986 to find out what issue of Magnus Robot Fighter was in those Whitmans comic book bagged packs
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Post by beccabear67 on Sept 24, 2018 20:57:16 GMT -5
I have gotten other 3-packs, but they were not Whitman editions. I remember getting: Star Wars #7-9, and #13-15 Battlestar Galactica #1-3 Smurfs #1-3 (I was desperate, my family was away on vacation and I needed my fix) I bought the Star Wars #7-9, 10-12, and 13-15 bags together in the summer of 1979 at some big U.S. mall knowing they were reprints of some kind. I'm pretty sure I had yet to walk into a comic shop yet, so I think these are why I've always felt those diamond style corner boxes and blank or crossed out UPC area mark a comic as a lowly 'not real' reprint to me. It still gets me sometimes when ordering an old Marvel online to get the direct edition when they show the newsstand issue (have learned to check for the stock photo footnotes now). I had some of what was in those Star Wars issues in b&w in thinner British weekly editions. Later they would reprint Doctor Who weekly comics in color in Marvel Premiere. I almost think of the British Star Wars as being the better editions to have anyway as they had a little bit of extra art not in the U.S. comics. I had those Marvel Smurfs comics as well; I think there were only ever three published. So many others missed them and it's almost like they didn't exist for most collectors. Our shop owner was big on Donald Duck and it was only later comic shops I went into where I found anyone who looked down on stuff like that. Not a good idea to ask about any Scamp comics in a strange new comic shop where a bunch of guys in Lobo and Wolverine shirts are yakking about who they killed in D&D last night. I also loved Spider-Ham! I saw a Superman Vs. Muhammad Ali tabloid with the Whitman label so I know they did that one. Funny they'd leave issue numbers off of some of the regular comic covers though.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 25, 2018 23:29:53 GMT -5
The best part of the 3 pack was the sometimes oddball stuff they'd stick in with the other comics. I've bought 3 packs with oddities in them like Black Goliath (in a 3 pack where the other two were early 90s books) and an issue of Marvel's adaptation of Dune. While we're on the topic of 3 packs, does anyone remember when First comics used this method? I remember a dollar store had a ton of 3 packs of First comics books (mostly 86-89 titles). I got as many as possible and it introduced me to a lot of new books I previously never would have discovered on my own (American Flagg, Nexus, Grimjack, Badger). Back on topic, I miss dialogue on comic covers. Though it was usually ridiculous hype, it made you want to know what exactly was going on in the comic to get to this scene. I don't recall First ever doing this. I wonder if someone didn't buy up a lot and sell them to stores themselves. I don't recall seeing any kind of company program like that. The DC and Marvel ones were specific programs, with Western (and some others, in the case of Marvel).
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 25, 2018 23:39:41 GMT -5
Some of you other older comic book readers are more luckier than me from back in the day in the early and mid 1980s Those Whitmans 3 comics in one bag that I saw at the grocery store when I was a kid, it was that one issue of Flash Gordon, Magnus Robot Fighter and the usual Donald Duck or Mickey Mouse comic. Other than that, my parents would buy the regular single issues of Groo, Spider Ham, Alpha Flight, Elfquest or even G.I. Joe from the newsstand section at the grocery stores or drug pharmacy store. Even an issue of Cracked or Mad magazine back in my day when I was a kid. Funny that the Whitmans bagged comics which was mostly consisted of Flash Gordon or Magnus Robot Fighter they were still being sold after the Flash Gordon movie was done showing in theaters. At the time, I guess the bagged Whitmans comics were just popular at at the time in the early and mid 1980s in out in the boondocks small towns grocery stores There were a few different Whitman programs. Whitman was owned by Western Printing & Lithography, who also owned the Little Golden Book line. Whitman was their publishing division, for coloring and activity books and puzzles & games. They marketed their own comics (under the Gold Key name and then under the Whitman name, when they were solely publishing via the bagged sets) in the sets and they had deals with DC and Marvel. The DC books had the bullet logo altered with the Whitman logo, instead of the DC lettering. The Marvel issues would only have the bar code replaced by a blank rectangle, where the UPC symbol would normally be. Whitman also published some treasury editions of licensed titles at Marvel, including Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica and one or two others. Whitman did their own distribution to stores and their salespeople would sell job lots of product to various stores, for placement in their toy departments (usually) or newsstands. Their program went way back and by about 1980, they were only distributing their comics that way. The DC program was in the late 70s to the dawn of the 80s and they moved a ton of DC titles. Marvel was around the same time, but their program wasn't as prolific. They may have had another distributor, as I picked up a bunch of Marvel sets of a family vacation to Florida, at a Stuckey's. They were in bags, without logos, and definitely without the Whitman logo. Charlton also had a program, circa this time frame, via Modern Comics. These were mostly reprints of old titles, put out in grab bags. they weren't as prolific as the Whitman program, as Western had a bigger sales force and relationships with retailers that went back generations.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 25, 2018 23:50:27 GMT -5
The main drawback of the bagged sets was repetition of titles in different sets, which made identifying that hidden middle comic a big deal. If you bought several sets, odds were good that you would end up with at least one duplicate, if not more. Stores also bought a job lot, then sold them over a sales quarter or 6 months, and might not buy more until later (or not at all, if they didn't do well there). So, you might find some bagged sets at K-Mart in March and might see the same comics there until June, or you might not see comics there again until the holiday season, when they ordered in more merchandise.
For people like me, where you didn't have a newsstand in close proximity, the bagged sets were a way to get a bunch of comics at once, if you came across them for sale. i grew up in a little town of about 700, with a small convenience/grocery store. They carried a few small toy items (balloons, bags of army men, cap pistols, etc) and on a couple occasions they had a supply of the Whitman sets. One summer, I had been earning money helping to paint and mow lawns and bought a big stack of what they had. I ended up with duplicates of a couple of Superboy and The LSH. However, I did end up with a fairly good run of that comic and JLA, as well as some DC Comics Presents. I also got subsequent issues of Superman and Action, and a few Batman and Wonder Woman.
When I went on a trip to Florida, I got a bunch of Marvels at a Stuckeys and got the first two installments of the Proteus storyline, with the concluding part hitting the newsstands when I got back home.
I may be misremembering; but, it seems that the early DC mini-series were available, layter in Whitman sets, with World of Krypton and the Krypton Chronicles being released that way, at least.
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Post by comicsandwho on Sept 26, 2018 0:59:07 GMT -5
I think there was even a pack of the three-issue 'Untold Legend of the Batman' as one of the last DC-Whitman tie-ins in 1980. I can remember DC having both 3- and 2-packs(while Marvel only had 3). I remember being disappointed about a 'missing' comic, and my mom looking for the 'middle book' in the Marvel pack.
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Post by urrutiap on Sept 26, 2018 9:24:55 GMT -5
Well, when I was a little kid
those Whitmans bagged comic bags were all repeats of Magnus Robot Fighter, Flash Gordon and Mickey/Donald Duck. and yeah there were right at the newstand or at least next to the usual old timey army men toys or yo yos or silly putty at the time in the early and mid 1980s.
Good times back then but at the same time I think the Whitmans bagged comics were just clogging up the racks
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Post by brutalis on Sept 26, 2018 13:31:43 GMT -5
Out here in the wild west of Arizona you were lucky to ever find any bagged comics of any sort. They were usually found in K-Mart or Thrifty's drug stores where they hung on pegs wherever the store folks felt like putting them. You might find in the toy aisle or on end caps or in the audio/stereo department. And you would almost always find them torn open and the store won't sell an opened bag so you stood there in the store reading as much of the issues you could before your mom was finished browsing the store.
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Post by comicsandwho on Sept 27, 2018 16:22:03 GMT -5
I liked the original 'Comics Scene', which I sometimes found at the same drug store that had stopped selling comics after the end of the 'Whitman' era(although I also found it on the 7-11 magazine rack, just over from the comics). They had a number of good interviews and 'overviews' o comic/character history(I think I learned more about Georges Remi/'Herge') from the magazine's obituary of him than I'd ever known about before.) They also had great interviews with Jim Aparo and Hank Ketcham(in which it was announced that Marvel's 'Dennis the Menace' book was ending, mainly because he didn't like that comic was for sale in places that sold more 'adult' publications). The magazine just disappeared suddenly in 1983. A few years later, I noticed it had been revived, but I didn't give it a try, since I was kind of interested more in reading 'what I liked' than in what was 'hot'.
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