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Post by profh0011 on Aug 2, 2019 18:49:55 GMT -5
smaller print runs almost exponentially increase your unit costs AND YET... they keep doing MULTIPLE covers.
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Post by rberman on Aug 3, 2019 13:02:35 GMT -5
Speaking of genital exposure, this seems like a first for Marvel here: Marvel Graphic Novel # 9 Futurians
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 15:28:06 GMT -5
ps for Marvel Preview #11 On the letters page, someone suggests they adapt John Norman's gor series of fantasy novels. Either no one was familiar with them at Marvel, or they just blew it off; but, they ask readers to let them know what they think. They could do the first three; but, then would have to do a ton of excising of material (even from the first two) as those things were filled with BDSM fantasy, as the series progressed. The first novel is a decent Burroughs pastiche and the second mostly is, with the kink waiting until the end of the book. The third gets into the background of the planet, so it is more restrained (no pun intended). After that, they get pretty overt with bondage and domination, and the idea that women secretly yearn to be dominated. I liked the first two books, third was kind f dull, then stopped reading a 4th (amy not have been chronologically the 4th; but, it was my 4th book of the series) and thought it was getting pretty damn weird and stopped reading. I glanced at another and read the BS about women and chucked the whole stack out (I had bought about a half dozen at a used bookstore, after seeing the first at my cousin's house). Even in a non-Code magazine, those books would not fly and Marvel wasn't ready for outright porn. Oh god, the Gor books. You're right, the first 2 or 3 are decent S&S, but they then descended into this huge swathes godawfal mysogynistic male dom fantasy - literally 100 page blocks of this crap dumped in amongst the plots.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 7, 2019 12:24:09 GMT -5
Marvel Preview #15Creative Team: Star Lord-Chris Claremont-writer, Carmine Infantino-pencils, Bob Wiacek-inks; Worlds Enough- Don & Maggie Thompson-writers, Lee Elias-pencils, George Roussos-inks, Rick Marschal-edits Synopsis: Star Lord- On the planet Carillon, the invading Haalmhad have defeated the planet's space force and ground batteries, though at a higher cost than expected (could have told them; the Colonial Fleet had problems there, too). They have reduced to world to a dead, radioactive ball of dust.... The ships then target the planet and blast it again, destroying it, as it explodes into asteroids. Peter Quill awakens from a nightmare and looks around. Ship finally answers and shows him the destruction of Carillon, which he saw in his dream, due to the empathic bond with Ship. The Halllmhad Home Ship, a massive vessel, containing the population of that species, nears K'yndar III and a case is being made for war. K'yndar II, known as Cymoril, awaits their fate, resigned to it, as they are not powerful enough to stop it and their allies are too far to aid them. The Haalmhad refuse to acknowledge their transmissions of surrender. A senior officer goes to say goodbye to his family and intends to kill his children, so that they do not witness the death and destruction; but, he is unable to do it. Ship arrives at the edge of the system and the find a survivor. Ship tells Peter that she was once a star, who was destroyed by a weapon launched by alien invaders. Ship was saved by the entity who made Peter Quill Star Lord, given a purpose and a form. Now, they move to save another system. Star lord infiltrates the Haalmhad ship. Ship comes right down their throats and they launch intercept ships; but, Ship evades. Peter finds the engineering plans; but gets caught by Stormtroopers (this sounds really familiar). Peter fights his way free, sabotages some equipment and then gets on board Ship, who then starts generating the energy of a small star. The Haalmhad look to withstand it, until their power systems start failing, all across the ship. Peter sabotaged their grid, causing a chain reaction of dropped loads. The Home Ship is dead in space. peter makes an offer to tow them to a deserted world that can sustain life and elave them there, to survive and maybe evolve. they have no choice. In humanoid form, Ship thanks Peter, for putting her demons to rest and saving K'yndar. An article on time travel, in science fiction, follows, with illustrations, including one from Tom Yeates, who was pretty new to comics, at that point, having just graduated from the very first Kubert School class (along with Stephen Bissette and Rick Veitch). Worlds Enough- Harry Putzer races across Washington, where he sees a statue of Adolf Hitler, who died in 1973. He makes an adjustment to a belt device and the site once again features the Lincoln Memorial. Everything seems right until harry sees a newspaper that mention Pres. Hubert Humphrey. He makes further adjustments and finds himself in other timelines. he soon lands in a world where dinosaurs co-exist with mammals. Harry is on the run from an intergalactic patrol, after stealing a jump belt. His plan was to do a Biff Tannen: go back in time, steal a simple idea, patent it, and return to the present as a wealthy man. However, he keeps jumping through alternate histories, Eventually he makes it back and everything seems right. His car is there, with the dent from hitting the patrolman, whose belt he stole. He goes to a bookstore and looks through the offerings; but, makes a horrible discovery: a volume of the Love Poems of Edgar Rice Burroughs! An ad from Pacific Comics offers portfolios from Richard Corben, Frank Brunner, Will Eisner, Alex Nino, Roy Krenkel, Jeff Jones, Tim Conrad and Jimm Starlin. Starlin's is for Camelot 4005, a future King Arthur. Wonder if Mike Barr had that portfolio? This ad announces a second KISS special! KISS Meets the Phantom. What a televisual triumph that was! And, Jaws 2, with that noted director Jeannot Swarc! (whose name is misspelled; it's Szwarc, and he would go on to direct Supergirl and episodes of Smallville) Szwarc did direct Somewhere in Time, which is a cult favorite. As for KISS........ Whoof
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 7, 2019 15:17:57 GMT -5
Marvel Graphic Novel #10 HeartburstThe less successful prototype for Starburst Candies. The taste was fine; but, the cardiac arrest was a problem. Creative Team: Rick Veitch-everything; Jim Novak-logo, Archie Goodwin and Jo Duffy-edits. You know, I don't recall ever seeing this one on the Waldenbooks Marvel Graphic Novel spinner display. Synopsis: A boy, named Sunoco Firestone, dreams of a woman's face, in a well, calling to him. he is dressed in a clown suit and is drawn to the seductive voice. He falls in the well and wakes up screaming, aboard a ship that is headed to a prison. He is with his uncle, the Inquisitor Xerox Firestone. The Gene Police have captured a rebel, called Rimbaud, who claims to be an Earthwoman. She was aiding the native Ploo, a native species who are genetically compatible with humans, but which is a violation of the law. Inquisitor presents the Holy Croadcasts (Sgt Bilko) and she says they are just tv signals from the past, that took 600 years to arrive. They have no connection to reality. Sunoco finds himself troubled by the woman. He goes to a circus, in Plootown (ghetto of the natives), and beholds a Ploo woman, doing a mating dance. he is entranced by it and drawn to her, following her out of the tent, after the crowd of humans boos her away. He wants to see her and be with her. His friend comes along and breaks the spell, dragging him away before the Gene Police show up. The woman says he will be back. At Holy Dinner, with his family, they speak of a great space ark, leaving Earth and Sunoco breaks down, crying and runs out of the house. He heads into woods, where the Ploo woman, Maia, finds him. They engage in intercourse. Maia explains that they reacted to the call of nature, as Sunoco was overwhelmed by pheromones. Maia admits to having escaped a Desexing camp, where they are sterilized. Her mother was a circus whore but she is proud to be a Ploo and tells Sunoco she could never be the mate of a human, even if the law allowed it and runs off. Sunoco returns home and finds his uncle drunk, because the Sponsor's broadcasts have been cut off. Sunoco punches him out, gathers his thing and leaves. his friend helps him jump the circus train, where he falls through the roof of a car, surprising the performers inside. After they down the 2 bottles of alcohol he secreted away, he is allowed to join the circus. He reunites with Maia, who first slams the door on him, then welcomes him as her true soul-mate. Sunoco mucks in and is eventually taken under the wing of the clown Faffle, who helps him find his true face. Then, one night, Maia tells him she is pregnant. Sunoco cries that it will be a freak, a monster and Maia kicks him out.... She forgives him, but the dreams worsen. He tells Maia, who then leads him to the well, in Eos. She tells him it is the well of all dreams and he must stare into it an go in, if it calls to him. He is frightened and runs away. he crashes out the door of the temple and into the street, right into the Gene Police, who arrest him. maia follows. they discover that Sunoco's green face is covered in greasepaint; and, that he is human. They spot that Maia is pregnant. Maia releases a noxious gas, a natural defense mechanism (especially after a bowl of chili) and escapes. Sunoco is sentenced to life in prison, by his uncle. 4 years later, Sunoco's uncle visits him. The Inquisitors, with the help of the Gene Police, have seized power. The Ploo rose up in open rebellion. Nukes were dropped; but fighting continues and the Gene Police numbers are dwindling. A convict army is being raised and Sunoco will serve in a non-combatant role, with Rimbaud. She tells him that the Sacred Broadcasts were just cheap entertainment and the loss of their past is worse than the genocide being waged on the Ploo. She was sent to make contact with the lost colony, as she was able to make the jump. Sunoco tells her of his dreams and she seems to make fun of him, then admits that the Unified Field allowed her to jump across space and to contact him in dreams. It requires the human heart to work and they need a jump point, as hers was destroyed by the Gene Police (I keep hearing Cheap Trick, every time I type that...."The Gene Police, they live inside of my cells....") Sunoco knows of one. they head for Eos. They recon the outskirts of the city, which is under siege, by the convict army. They expect they will nuke it, when they are fully trapped. Just then, a Ploo leaps out at them and Sunoco kills her, fearing, for a moment, it wa Maia. It's not. They bury her and Rimbaud asks about Maia; but, Sunoco doesn't want to talk. She tells him to come with her to the well and jump, reminding him of the dreams. She seduces him and they make love. The see the Gene Police withdrawing, in preparation for the nuclear bombardment. they head into the city, before the attack comes, to get to the well. They find the well, but Sunoco can't go and leave Maia. They argue, then notice the quiet. the bomb is coming, right on top of the convict army and the Ploo. They dive into the well and Rimbaud is guiding him to Earth; but, he veers off and follows his heart to another well. he finds Faffl and the circus, who points him to Maia. She greets him, then introduces him to her husband, who took her in. He points to the freak trailer, for their son. He flips out and attacks the husband, who gases him (pickled eggs and sauerkraut for dinner, last night) and they leave him behind. He is found near a train station and rounded up by the military. He is dumped on the train, with others of the convict army, who have radiation sickness. Sunoco finds a medical kit and aids the dying as best he can. He leaves the train, yelling that the pardons were fake and that they were set up. Then, the Gene Police show up with ships to finish the job. Sunoco witnesses the attack and is the only survivor. he collects food and weapons from the train and departs. Sunoco dreams of another well and see Maia's husband in it. he tells him there is one chance; he must enter the well and come to him, to learn the secret of the Heartburst, to return the Light. Sunoco gives into the visions and follows his heart, which leads him to the old prison. He finds a well hidden inside and waits. Soon, the surviving Ploo show up; and, eventually, the circus. He is reunited wit Maia, who was injured, and her husband, Toobah. he teaches Sunoco, after he heals Maia's wounds. However, Toobah dies before completing the ritual. The Gene Police attack and Sunoco is captured by a soldier, who turns out to be his old friend, Ipana Schlitz. He is willing to let Sunoco and Maia go; but not their child. Maia is willing to give him up, which horrifies Sunoco. Then, she produces a radiation-scarred child and he understands. Ipana doublecrosses them and calls in Inquisitor Xerox. He tortures the lovers, when Sunoco releases energy into the well and light burst forth. Then, Rimbaud climbs out, with a tv, and direct transmissions from Earth, explaining things and setting forth to restore Ploo and the people. Sunoco turns down Rimbaud's offer to join her in contacting others and goes off, finding his costume and putting on his face. then, he meets his true son, Sunny and he and Maia are wed, a family, finally... Thoughts: This is what this line should be producing. Once again, we have the involvement of Archie Goodwin and Epic. Archie was the conduit for real creativity, at Marvel, both as a mentor and as the editor of Epic. Epic was producing the only real alternative work at marvel, with things like The Metamorphosis Odyssey, Dreadstar, Moonshadow, the Bozz chronicles, Starstruck and Veitch's works. he had already produced Abraxis and the Earthman for Epic illustrated and would follow this up with The One, an early deconstruction of superheroes. Veitch and his brother Tom had a background in the Undergrounds, before he attended the Kubert School. this shaped much of his work, which was often filled with shocking visuals and adult views of storytelling. this work has quite a bit of nudity in it, plus horrifying images. That was common to his other work, including his King Hell Heroica (The Brat Pack, The Maximortal) and Roarin' Rich's Rarebit Dreams. This looks like something Heavy Metal would have published, a few years before (the magazine's glory days were slipping away, by this point, under new editorship) or Star*Reach, though they wouldn't have done it justice, in color. Really, this demonstrates that the graphic novel line should have fallen under Archie Goodwin's oversight, as he understood what kind of material fits the format, rather than putting something like Dazzler, the Movie or New Mutants in there. Luckily, Akira and Moebius were left to Epic to handle.
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Post by rberman on Aug 7, 2019 15:28:53 GMT -5
"Can I do a story about clowns?" "What if they are space clowns?" "What if they are sexy space clowns?"
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 7, 2019 15:52:01 GMT -5
"Can I do a story about clowns?" "What if they are space clowns?" "What if they are sexy space clowns?" "Only if they are clown mutants who fight other clown mutants, with plots stolen from The Avengers and Alien. Oh, and I will bury your script with endless notes telling you to make it read like my masterpiece, Secret Clown Wars.""Psst....hey kid; bring it my way. There's always a spot for something different here.""Which is why we will never promote your projects. Now, what's the budget to push our latest Clown men spinoff, the New Pagliaccis?"
"Five grand, your tallness!" "And for the entire Circus line of books?"
"50 cents, Lord Giant." "Perfect. What's the status of the Bullpen?""12 more desertions this week." "Bah; ingrates! Get me a dozen fan wannabes and give them copies of my scripts and layouts; we'll show them what creativity is!""By the way, here's my resignation. I'm going to the other side for some editorial freedom and a chance to develop innovative projects.""Fine; I run the show here! My methods are unbeatable!"
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 7, 2019 15:53:13 GMT -5
The above may or may not of occured; but, it sure felt like it did, at times.
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Post by MDG on Aug 8, 2019 8:43:35 GMT -5
Heartburst was one of those books where, in the 80s/90s you'd see a lone, unsold copy on a forgotten shelf next to Super Boxers and Ginger Fox in every LCS.
I never picked it up, but the art here looks good. I never warmed to Tom Veitch. I'm a big fan of his brother Rick's UD work, and I like stuff he did with Steve Bissette (including the great 1941 adaptation and 50s Funnies), but didn't read much after The One came out. I felt it pretentious. I dropped Swamp Thing pretty quickly after he took over writing.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 8, 2019 10:43:53 GMT -5
Heartburst was one of those books where, in the 80s/90s you'd see a lone, unsold copy on a forgotten shelf next to Super Boxers and Ginger Fox in every LCS. I never picked it up, but the art here looks good. I never warmed to Tom Veitch. I'm a big fan of his brother Rick's UD work, and I like stuff he did with Steve Bissette (including the great 1941 adaptation and 50s Funnies), but didn't read much after The One came out. I felt it pretentious. I dropped Swamp Thing pretty quickly after he took over writing. The One never really grabbed me; but, I enjoyed Brat Pack and mostly enjoyed Maximortal, though I could have done without the scatalogical element. Roarin' Rick's Rarebit Dreams was a mixed bag, as you would expect of something that was pretty much an illustrated dream journal. I tried Tom's stuff, that DC put out; but it was a bit too weird and esoteric, for my tastes. Liked his Dark Empire stuff, for Star Wars. I also used to see Heartburst sitting on a graphic novel display but never picked it up. At the time, I was still more invested in cleaner, more illustrator styles and some of the more impressionistic ones. That's part of why it took me quite a while to start sampling old Underground material and current alternative material. I had to get bored enough with superheroes and adventure material to open my eyes to them (plus I needed a few gateways).
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Post by badwolf on Aug 8, 2019 12:59:32 GMT -5
I think the only Rick Veitch I ever read was "Abraxas and the Earthman" in Epic Illustrated, and it disturbed me but in a way I liked it. I remember seeing this graphic novel previewed in that mag (including some panels that were appealing to adolescent me) but I never picked it up. Would read now if I found one though.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Aug 9, 2019 12:20:02 GMT -5
The One never really grabbed me; but, I enjoyed Brat Pack and mostly enjoyed Maximortal, though I could have done without the scatalogical element. Roarin' Rick's Rarebit Dreams was a mixed bag, as you would expect of something that was pretty much an illustrated dream journal. I tried Tom's stuff, that DC put out; but it was a bit too weird and esoteric, for my tastes. Liked his Dark Empire stuff, for Star Wars. I also used to see Heartburst sitting on a graphic novel display but never picked it up. At the time, I was still more invested in cleaner, more illustrator styles and some of the more impressionistic ones. That's part of why it took me quite a while to start sampling old Underground material and current alternative material. I had to get bored enough with superheroes and adventure material to open my eyes to them (plus I needed a few gateways).
Hah, I reacted very differently. I loved The One and consider it a neglected classic. Brat Pack irked me because I felt like ... I'm not sure this will make sense ... it was expending a lot of emotional energy to satirise the kid sidekick trope, but the trope is too insubstantial to warrant all that attention, you know?
That said, the cover to the first issue is one of my favorite comic covers of all time.
I passed on Maximortal because it looked kind of nasty and was in the Brat Pack continuity.
I did enjoy Heartburst quite a bit.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 14, 2019 16:20:22 GMT -5
Marvel Preview #16Lilith, Queen of the Undead.... Creative Teams: Hodiah Twist-Don McGregor-writer, Gene Colan-pencils, Tony DeZuniga-inks; Voices-Marv Wolfman-writer, Gene Colan pencils, Tom Palmer-inks; Lilith-Steve Gerber-writer, Colan & deZuniga-art; Rick Marschall-edits Marschall is credited on the contents page for Hodiah Twist; but, McGregor is listed on the into page. McGregor had quit in an editorial dispute. Lilith might be inventory material; not certain. Same for the Wolfman and Colan piece, but I don't have any definite info on that. Synopsis: Hodiah Twist-There are a series of murders on the El trains and Hodiah Twist and partner Conrad Jeavons ride one, in search of the killer. Also on the car are young Jeffrey, who idolizes pulp heroes and sees Twist as such; Col Witherspoon, an aged Victorian who deplores modern manners, Mildred Argot, who fancies herself a detective, and Gladys Jones, a champagne dancer. Well, the colonel gets it, then Mildred gets it and it turns out that Jeffrey is in fact a werewolf, which Twist discounts until he is facing fangs and claws. Voices- Detective York is overworked and pressured, as the heat is on about the Magnum killer. Meanwhile, Jeffrey berger feeds pigeons and thinks back about his father, who dumped him because he is mentally handicapped. Neighbor Harry Tate is henpecked by his wife, whose insurance salesman brother, in Yonkers, is going to be putting in a pool. Harry retreats to his den and his CB radio. he calls over to Jeffrey's tv, on the transmission frequency and speaks as the voice of god, giving him instructions. York later gets a call about another murder, in Yonkers. Friends, relatives and neighbors are questioned. Harry speaks to York on the sidewalk, outside his building, as Jeffrey walks past and recognizes the voice of god. Later, inside, Harry sees Jeffrey watching him and panics. Harry's wife nags at him through the closed door to the den. Harry decides to end it; but, decides to take care of two problems at once. he orders Jeffrey to come to his place and shoot the person who answers the door, then turn the gun on himself. He then calls Det. York, saying the Magnum Killer had called and was coming for him. The wife has overheard and Harry claims it was a joke, as she storms out the side. the police arrive and buzz Harry to let them in. he goes to do so as Jeffry comes through the door and shoots him, though York stops Jeffrey from turning the gun on himself. Ron Goulart provides a piece on detective fiction; specifically, the private eye. he discusses the pulp origins, in Black Mask, with characters like Hammett's Continental Op and Carroll John Daly's Race Williams. he then moves on to Hammett's Sam Spade and Chandler's Phillip Marlowe, the Warner gangster and noir films, and seminal performances by people like Humphrey Bogart. Lilith: Death by Disco- Fraser is sitting in the Cheers bar, when Norm comes in......"NORM!". Then Lilith enters and everyone cringes.............. Oh, wait- a bat flies over San Francisco, an old lady is being mugged by punks, and the bat turns into Lilith, who assaults the punks with her cleavage... (must use double-sided tape, or something) Lilith goes all Dracula-meets-Paul Kersey and the old lady is perfectly fine with her killing the punks. then, in the vocals of Meatloaf......... She returns to human form, Angel O'Hara and comes home to partner Martin Gold, wannabe writer. She's complaining of blackouts and Martin is too engrossed in his writing to listen. The next day, Angel meets with Martin's editor about her failure to convince him to do a proposed article on Disco and the editor asks her to give it a go. She agrees, as they need the money, even though she isn't a professional writer. She goes to the disco, the ice Castle (Lynn Holly Johnson is dancing blindly...) and surveys the scene, but John Travolta hasn't shown up yet. Some scumbag (probably a Wall Street coked out broker) makes a move on the very pregnant Angel, egged on by his buddy ("She can't get any more pregnant...."), gets rebuffed, goes to get a little respect (the buddy's words) and nearly gets his head chopped off by the newly emerged Lilith. The Village People head for the YMCA. Another wannabe smoothie ditches his girl for the hot chick in the S&M gear and offers up some pills and gets mocked and told to dance for Lilith, which he does. he is apparently Denny Terrio, and she likes it. Donna Summer starts singing about last chances for love as Lilith and TJ, the smoothie, depart. They walk the streets, to a Bee Gee's beat, then TJ tries to swipe some boots, by smashing a storefront window. He ends up shot by the lady he ditched, aided by the two scumbags who hit on Angel. Lilith uses their heads to Knock On Wood, then the girl tries to listen to Gloria Gaynor; but, she did not grow strong and hasn't learned how to get along. Lilith hypnotizes her into dancing, then sucks her body dy of blood, flying off to go visit Kirk and Francine Langstrom. There follows ads for portfolios from Howard Chaykin... and Richard Corben... Then an announcement that next issue will feature Gil Kane's Blackmark. More portfolios, with an ad from the Schanes Brothers (Pacific Comics), including Chaykin's Cody Starbuck and the Robin Hood one, from the previous page, a Frank Thorne Wizards and Warrior Woman, a Gil Kane Blackmark, Alfredo Alcala and Frank Cirocco. Letters ages comment on naked chicks with Star-Lord, including praise from a female reader, use to claim it was artistic vs sensationalistic (not buying it, guys); consensus was they liked the story, didn't like Carmine's art, and wish John Byrne was still drawing the adventures of Peter Quill. other features are pretty much an afterthought. Thoughts: All Gene Colan issue, though with varying degrees of success. Palmer makes it look fantastic, DeZuniga fluctuates quite a bit within single stories, let alone two different ones. Hodiah Twist is slightly satirical, though not particularly funny or clever. The art elevates a rather mixed story with a clumsy opening section. Lilith is more successfully satirical, both of disco and Death Wish vigilantism. You can all but smell the polyester as you read it and hear the base line. Much more enjoyable, though it feels like a bit of a retread of the previous Lilith effort, in terms of her personal life. Something tells me that the Marvel gang weren't exactly welcome at Studio 54. Who knows? Could have been much more savage, in terms of the disco satire. Voices is terrific: nice twist on things, beautiful art. The story is obviously inspired by the case of David Berkowitz, the Son of Sam Killer, who operated across New York, in the summer of 1976. He used a .44 Special caliber Charter Arms Bulldog revolver in his killings, which was often misidentified as a .44 Magnum; hence, the Magnum Killer. Berkowitz claimed to be acting on commands of a dog, possessed by a demon, who belonged to his neighbor, Sam Carr. The twist here is that the killer is being manipulated by a human demon, Harry, via CB radio transmissions, received on Jeffrey's tv, across an alley (not sure how feasible that was; but, CB's did cross over with radio frequencies, at times, despite being restricted to specific bands). Harry has used Jefrey to settle petty slights and annoyances, showing who the real monster is. This is in the fine EC tradition (or O Henry, for that matter) with a twist ending, as our manipulator gets his just desserts. Poor Jeffrey is the real victim in this, as a product of an accident of birth and development, abuse and neglect, then manipulation by petty evil. All in all, a pretty decent issue. Nothing classic; but, mostly well executed and entertaining.
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Post by brutalis on Aug 14, 2019 16:52:21 GMT -5
Damn fine issue spotlighting Colan. What I love in his pencil work is the various tonal changes in playing with shadows and light. I thought Dezuniga was rather understated in his inking of Colan and the blend was quite elegantly interesting. Especially love too that every person Colan creates has their own individuality. No 2 ever look the same and Colan delivers the goods in showing adults from young to old that actually look like real people you know. And Lilith isn't wearing a suit, it is body paint because that is the ONLY way that she and Satanna could evr NOT fall out of their costumes.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 14, 2019 17:35:55 GMT -5
Marvel Graphic Novel #11 Void IndigoCreative Team: Steve Gerber-writer, Val Mayerik-art, Andy Kubert-letters, Archie Goodwin & Jo Duffy-edits Hooboy, strap yourselves in for a very bumpy ride. This was actually conceived as a Hawkman update, for DC, which was rejected and altered, then shopped around the indies, before ending up at Epic. Like New Mutants and Dreadstar, the graphic novel was used to launch a new series. Unlike those, the series died a quick, and many would argue a deserved, death, after 2 issues. Distributors and retailers were up in arms over the first issue's violence and orders dropped significantly for issue 2. Archie decided it wasn't worth publishing the remaining 4 issues. This didn't do much to salve Gerber's ego or his beef with his former bosses. Synopsis: We start out ripping off Robert E Howard, as the time is between the sinking of Atlantis and the rise of Jericho, where 9 city states have come under the domination of sorcerers, from Atlantis. Life sucks and it gets all fiery and stabby... The wizards are in trouble, as Northmen are laying waste....yadda=yadda-yadda.....the wizards are sacrificing naked chicks on altars and order half the women and men of the 5 remaining city states be sent on a pilgrimage, or murder and torture. Kind of like a swing choir competition, but with fewer robes. The tamed citizens don't hold enough vigor to elevate the wizards' powers, so they turn to using the barbarians; specifically their leader, Ath'agar (hereafter knows as Ath), who lounges on his thrown with Frazetta babes at his feet. Ath is doing a bit Barbarian Invasion with his naked lady friend, when the wizards show up. The woman, ren, is told to make like the Go-Gos and her lips are sealed. Ath goes for his sword, which turns into a serpent and he gets all Ahnold, grunting unintelligibly (as opposed to speaking his lines unintelligibly, like normal). They get whisked away to the sacrificial altar, where Ren gets chained down naked (of course) and Ath gets further snake-squeasin', before ripping off its head, in rather Freudian imagery. Ath tries to attack and gets wrapped in magical dental floss. They then torture the physically chained and metaphysically gagged woman, to get Ath's blood boiling. Then they go to work on him, but, his naughty bits are kept shadowy, while he flashes back to his backstory, which is very Conan-esque. He then gets spiked in the head. The wizards look younger; but Ath isn't quite dead (cue Monty Python...) and rips the spike out of his skull and leaps off the table. Body parts get severed, spikes fall into mystical orbs and magic energy explodes. Well, the wizards live on, in multiple lives, as do Ath and Ren (including one where Atth looks like dumb cat and Ren a demented chihuahua). One of the wizardsm Koth, decides to put an end to the cycle and projects himself into the Void Indigo, where all the souls meet up, to engineer his own murder, to bring Ath & Ren into confrontation with the other 3 wizards. he meets an alien pilt, Jhagur, who is Ath reincarnated and touches his mind. he sends him into his enemies, where his ship gets hit and goes spinning off, crashing on Earth, with the chant of Void Indigo...Void Indigo (cha-cha-cha). Jhagur ejects and walks the desert of New Mexico, before coming to a small town and the trailer of a hooker, who is being ripped off by her john. Jhagur rescues the hooker and flash fries the john's foot. problem is, he's the local sheriff. They get out of town and head for LA. Jhagur demonstrates the ability to alter his appearance, on the ride. They get to LA, get fake IDs for Jhagur, Linette becomes a waitress, he does manual labor and studies human culture via tv and books, while troubled by dreams of a face saying Void Indigo. At a job site, someone finds the spike, Jhagur touches it and goes mental, trying to kill people. He gets home and chills, watches the news, sees a dying athlete's face and recognizes Koth. he goes to the hospital to see him Koth explains, Jhagur kills him and runs off home, where he has Linette make him a warrior's outfit (which makes him look like a Mad Max refugee). Thoughts: Um.................yeah............you know, I never saw this thing in the wild and there is a reason; it's far from gerber's best work. It's pretty violent and vile and I can't understand why everyone rejected it and the distributors got their knickers in a twist.... There's nothing particularly new in it, either, with stuff stolen from Howard and Moorcock, not to mention various other myths and pulp fantasy, mixed with a lot of violence against women and pointless violence, in general. Bob ingersoll, whose Law Is A Ass column ran in the Comic buyer's Guide, wrote a column, in 1984, after the first issue of the series came out, eviscerating the work. he wrote it as the summary of a libel lawsuit, claiming Jhagur defamed the entire Human Race. he cites elements of the first issue, including a transvestite prostitute murdered by a transman john don't get me started on that one) and a parade of other devolved creatures. i haven't seen that issue; but this thing isn't anything to write home about. not sure what Archie was thinking here, even greenlighting this, though maybe Gerber's pitch came across differently. Amazingly, this would seem tame, by the 90s. Mayerik's art looks fine, though it's not in service to much. This reads like the worst of Heavy Metal. Don't waste your money.
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