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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 20, 2018 16:02:40 GMT -5
Marvel Premiere #7Is it just me or does Clea look like a cocktail waitress in a slightly seedy bar? Creative Team: Gardner Fox-writer, P Craig Russell-pencils; Mike Esposito, Frank Giacoia & Dave Hunt-inks, Jean Rizzo-letters, Mimi Gold-colors, Roy Thomas-edits Synopsis: Dr Strange reminds us of the map from last issue, indicating Stonehenge and he flies off to England, with Wong and Clea to follow. meanwhile, a man named Henry Dordon is trying to get directions to an inherited manor house. no one seems to be accomodating. Could it be the name, Witch House? he finds it, meets the blond housekeeper, Blondine, and reads a bunch of esoteric stuff (probably published as Miskatonic University Press) and reads about an Atlantis like place that was destroyed near there and it's guardian, Dagoth. He finds a spooky tower and a big jewel,called the Starstone. Henry and Blondine go scuba diving, for evidence and hit a goldmine, then trip the alarm... Doc rescues them, fights off Dagoth, then gets them back home. he then learns that Blondine is possessed by the spirit of the High Priestess, a bunch of people act all creepy and assemble, Doc falls under a spell, and Clea sends a magic wake-up call. Doc gathers his wits and runs into Dagoth, finally beats him, then everyone goes inside a creepy castel, where reality is bending. So, just another day at the office! Thoughts: More Lovecraftian stuff (I'm not fooled by the RE Howard note at the beginning), lots of people sweating while evil influence grows, lots of soggy, sea salt crusted squish monsters, mind controlled villagers, and more of Dr Strange being mixed with Lovecraft and Hammer. While it beats yet another fight with Baron mordo or Dormmamu; it isn't exactly original. P Craig Russel is still developing and is just Craig Russell, neophyte; not P CRAIG RUSSELL, god of opera stories and Sandman tales. Three inkers don't exactly enhance, though it looks fine. It certainly captures the mood of the story well, though the whole Lovecraft thing is starting to get old. We need a bigger baddie and fewer possessed villagers and lieutenant monsters.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 20, 2018 16:24:33 GMT -5
Marvel Premier #8Doc finally makes it over to Stonehenge... Creative Team: Gardner Fox-writer, Jim Starlin-art, Frank Giacoia & Dave Hunt-inks, Jean Izzo-letters, Petra Goldberg-colors, Roy Thomas-chief druid Synopsis: Dr Strange fights the furniture of Witch House and Clea, who proved useful before, gets banged on the noggin and taken out of the fight. Doc has had enough and calls on the Vishanti to destroy the house and all the evil within and a bunch of magic lightning strikes and down goes the house. Doc heads off for Stonehenge, leaving Clea behind. Doc heads over to Stonehenge, while reminding us of past issues. he turns up and the place is surprisingly quiet, for a major tourist attraction, when a bunch of Starlin monster guys, with pointy ears show up. Doc fights the knife-wielding monsters and as fast as you can say "Katuum!", they are gone, destroyed by Doc's magical energy. Starlin then goes all Ditko.... as Doc enters another realm, via a dimensional gateway. It all gets very Timothy Leary and Doc meets up with Kathulos (seriously!), a plant dude.... He attacks Doc and he beats off the first wave of vines and things, then gets his soul sucked into Kathulos, which gives him knowledge to beat him; but, leaves him stranded on this alien, other-dimensional world. I hate it when that happens. Synopsis: Now we are getting blatant. Kathulos? Still, Starlin flexes his inner Ditko and it looks suitably trippy and cool. Still waiting for the showdown with Shuma-Gorath; but, it looks better.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 16:26:21 GMT -5
Marvel Premiere #8 was my first exposure to Doc, a neighbor had this with a bunch of other comics that got handed down to me a few years after it came out.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 20, 2018 17:37:43 GMT -5
Marvel Spotlight #8Creative Team: Gary Friedrich-writer, Mike Ploog and Jim Mooney-art, Shelly Leferman-letters, Roy Thomas-snake wrangler Synopsis: Ghost Rider faces off with mentor Crash Simpson, while Crash's daughter Roxanne is chained to a satanic altar, in her newest Red Sonja's Secret ensemble. Roxanne wants Johnny to try and reason with crash, as GR flames away her chains... Crash ain't having it, starts to attack, then stops. Satan is pissed and sends Johnny to Hell, to face Crash on the homefield. he fixes the fight with a demon serpent; but, Crash has a face turn and attacks the demon, freeing Johnny. They fight there way into other monsters and Crash sacrifices himself. Johnny carries his form, runs into a hooded dud who says he will bring peace to Crash's soul and has Johnny lay it on an altar, then Johnny is sent back.... Johnny wakes up in human form, next to Roxanne and they leave. This being Greenwich Village, no one notices a guy in leather walking with a woman in a chain mail bikini and red cloak. Johnny heads out west to set up the new show, which will include performances at a rodeo and jumping a canyon (wonder where they got that idea?). Johnny is picked up by Native American Sam Silvercloud, who pulls a gun on Johnny and dumps him in the desert, to prevent him from jumping the sacred canyon, which would put a media focus on the canyon and entice the government not to cede it to the tribe, in their legal battle. Johnny jumps onto the truck as Sam pulls away and gets his bike off of it. he meets up with the rodeo manager the next day, who also doesn't want the shw, because he is a rodeo purist. This never happened to Evel Knievel! he runs into Sam, punches him out, when he see that he is frozen and the mystical figure Snakedance appears. he warns Johnny away from the canyon, like the monster in an episode of Scooby Doo! Johnny suits up to investigate and Sam sabotages his bike. Snakedance shows up again, Johnny turns into Ghost Rider and fights Snakedance's snake men... He scares off the goons, then faces Snakedance, who transforms into a giant serpent and chases Johnny to the edge of the canyon and his bike explodes as he jumps the canyon, leaving Ghost Rider to plummet towards the bottom of the canyon. Thoughts: Weell, the Crash Simpson bit wraps upa bit later than it should have, then we suddenly switch gears to the new storyline, with a whole lot of Scooby Doo plot, with real mysticism (ala the more recent era Scooby Doo cartoon movies). Ploog has some nice visual fun and he still makes the motorcycle stuff look really cool. Jim Mooney subdues him a bit, here and there. Gary Friedrich keeps things interesting, if a bit hokey, which makes for a nice mix. This issue's idea of Johnny jumping a canyon was no doubt inspired by Evel Knievel, who had been floating the idea of jumping the Grand Canyon for several years, but the US dept of the Interior had pretty much let it be known it would never happen. In 1972 Knievel switched to other, equally ludicrous ideas, which culminated in the idea to jump the Snake River Canyon, in a rocket. It took a couple of years to get funding and build the rocket, which was a spectacular failure, as the chute opened on the launch ramp and the rocket went in an arc down into the canyon, with the chute dragging. Knievel was banged about a bit but was safe and the whole thing was a flop that made money from closed circuit presentation and Wide World of Sports broadcast. Also, the year before, George Hamilton stared in a highly fictionalized movie biopic of Evel, which played up the legends about him, more than the reality (and he had a colorful real life). It's a fun movie, with Hamilton delightfully over-the-top and charming, as the roguish young Evel and the more famous performing Evel. The film script was written by Allan Caillou and John Milius, and was suitably over-the-top macho BS, perpetuating the idea of Knievel as the "Last Gladiator." It's a great movie to watch; but, should never be taken seriously (beats Viva Knievel, with the real Evel). Ghost Rider tapped into the whole Evel phenomena pretty well, as this was a period of biker movies, Evel's jumps on Wide World of Sports, the movie, Evel toys and merchandise, banana-seat bicycles that looked more like motorcycle frames (and even chopper versions), and the like. Kids ate this stuff up and Ghost Rider was quickly becoming a popular title. We have 3 more issue before he gets his own series.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 20, 2018 18:30:31 GMT -5
Marvel Fanfare #1Creative Team: Chris Claremont-writer, Michael Golden-artist & colorist, Jim Novak-letterer. Al Milgrom-editor, Jim Shooter-T-Rex Synopsis: A helicopter brings hot blonde Tanya Anderssen to see Warren Worthington, aka The Angel. She is there to ecruit him to help her locate childhood friend Karl Lykos, aka the energy vampire were-pteranodon Sauron. She relates his past history, from X-Men 60-61. She then tells of finding a picture of him, alive, in the Savage Land, hanging out with Ka-Zar. Warren agrees to mount an expedition. meanwhile, J Jonah Jameson and the Daily Bugle have secured exclusive rights to cover it and Peter Parker gets tapped. petey isn't happy about returning to the Savage Land, so he holds JJJ up for more money. Everybody is down south, loaded into a Navy helo, when they run into a pterasaur.... Tanya goes tumbling and gets rescued by the Angel. Petey makes web parachutes and lands safety, while the Navy crew parachutes down, even though parachutes aren't carried by Navy helo crews. Petey meets back up with the blonde crowd. Petey backs up a dangerous plan by Tanya to look around the area, which is the entry way to the Savage Land. They stumble into Garokk's destroyed compound, from X-Men 113-116, then get attacked by the locals. Tanya goes over a cliff; but, dialogue says she tumbled into a dive and landed safely in water below, off panel. Warren fights a bunch of Arzach-wannabes, on pterodactyls, while Petey fights some groundpounders, then switches to his fighting togs. He gets attacked by a big brute and takes him out Spidey style... Tanya splashes around in marshy land below and runs into a T-Rex, who may or may not be Jim Shooter. Spidey is taken out by a 4-armed mutate, named Barbarus and wakes up chained to a table, next to Angel. They are the prisoners of Magneto's old mutates, who have repaired his genetic transformer and Spidey and Angel are the test subjects. Spidey resists and gets whammied by Vertigo. Everything goes black as the machine hums and we have to wait for next issue... "Snow"Creative Team: Roger MacKenzie-writer, Paul Smith-pencils, Terry Austin-inks, Shelly Leferman-letters, Glynis wein-colors, Al Milgrom-edits, Jim Shooter-rejected by elves, due to heightist policies. Synopsis: A streetcorner Santa is mugged by goons. Matt Murdock is nearby and helps Santa, as daredevil. The money was to help handicapped kids at a hospital and the muggers were junkies. Daredevil track them down, administers a beating and traces their drugs to the source, a guy named Haskill. They have a rooftop chase and Haskill goes over the side. DD scoops up his drug money and showers it on Santa, to help the kids. Frank Capra it ain't! Thoughts: Marvel Fanfare was begun as a Direct Market-only book, designed to showcase th best talent at Marvel, on the best paper, with no ads. It didn't quite end up living up to those ideals; but, these first few issues give us Claremont and Golden cooking up wonder in the Savage Land. The Comics Journal confirmed that this story was originally intended for Marvel team-Up and got published here. Claremont references a lot of past X-Men and Spider-Man, which is par for the course. Golden goes to town on the art and it is awe-inspiring. Golden did a pretty funky Spidey and was the artist who would inspire Todd mcFarlane's take, in a special poster that Golden created. Golden does really beautiful women, usually with big sunglasses and as little clothing as possible (Candy Southern shows off some butt cleavage). He also handles monsters and mutates well and this thing is a visual feast, even if the plot is fairly generic MTU material. The Daredevil back-up story looks nice and has a harsh edge, but is run-of-the-mill stuff, similar to Frank miller's Batman Christmas story. Nice opening salvo from Marvel, though the Savage Land story is the reason to read it. It would later be collected in a trade paperback.
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Post by badwolf on Dec 20, 2018 20:49:06 GMT -5
We'll have to see if we can pinpoint when it went from a talent showcase to "stuff we had lying around in files that we already paid people for."
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 21, 2018 0:39:42 GMT -5
We'll have to see if we can pinpoint when it went from a talent showcase to "stuff we had lying around in files that we already paid people for." Well, these first few issues are unused MTU scripts; so, not an auspicious beginning.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 21, 2018 3:52:10 GMT -5
The Savage Land/Sauron story in the first 4 issues of Fanfare is awesome; loved it when it first came out, and I think it still holds up well. Otherwise, I think Marvel Fanfare was pretty consistently good for the first dozen or so issues - I've only read a smattering of the material that came out after that, some good (like the one with the nicely-done humorous Thing story by B.W. Smith) and some not so good.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 21, 2018 4:33:51 GMT -5
We'll have to see if we can pinpoint when it went from a talent showcase to "stuff we had lying around in files that we already paid people for." Well, these first few issues are unused MTU scripts; so, not an auspicious beginning. That first Savage Land arc was really good though. After that, things went downhill rapidly, IMHO.
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Post by kirby101 on Dec 21, 2018 9:49:10 GMT -5
I disagree that Fanfare wasn't good after the first issues. I looked over the covers of the rest of the series and there are quit a few wonderful books there with stellar art from the likes of Sandy Plunkett, Charles Vess and Ken Stacy among others. www.newkadia.com/?Marvel_Fanfare_Comic-Book-Covers=2400
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Post by badwolf on Dec 21, 2018 10:00:48 GMT -5
Looking over the covers, I'd like to amend my previous speculation. I don't think there was a point at which it dropped, but it was inconsistent. I think the nadir was probably #33, a Questprobe video game tie-in. There's a lot of mediocre stuff scattered in with the good.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 21, 2018 12:43:45 GMT -5
Well, these first few issues are unused MTU scripts; so, not an auspicious beginning. That first Savage Land arc was really good though. After that, things went downhill rapidly, IMHO. Not saying it wasn't good; but that the book started out not fulfilling its stated mission of delivering new material. It certainly delivered excellent material, from top creators. I bought the book sporadically and enjoyed most of the issues I picked up; but, there was a generic sameness to many stories. Even if they weren't inventory stories, they felt like it. I don't think there was anything particularly wrong with Marvel Fanfare; but, it wasn't much different from Marvel Premiere; only more expensive. I don't think they ever lived up to the "best" idea, much in the same way that Epic Illustrated never really challenged Heavy Metal for content, no matter how much Archie tried. That one at least experimented more. Part of the problem, in my eyes, was that in aiming it at the direct market, it felt rather like they were aiming at fanboy expectations. At the same time, DC was willing to experiment more because they had everything to gain and nothing to lose. Marvel, under Shooter, seemed more reluctant in this area, whether deliberately or unconsciously.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 21, 2018 14:22:43 GMT -5
Marvel Premier #8(...) as Doc enters another realm, via a dimensional gateway. It all gets very Timothy Leary and Doc meets up with Kathulos (seriously!), a plant dude.... He attacks Doc and he beats off the first wave of vines and things, then gets his soul sucked into Kathulos, which gives him knowledge to beat him; but, leaves him stranded on this alien, other-dimensional world. I hate it when that happens. Synopsis: Now we are getting blatant. Kathulos? I had forgotten about him... Kathulos is another name from Robert E. Howard. He was the Atlantean wizard doing a Fu Manchu impression in Skull-face. Howard was challenged about the name in the letters page of Weird Tales and denied any connection to C'thulhu.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 21, 2018 14:41:26 GMT -5
Marvel Premier #8(...) as Doc enters another realm, via a dimensional gateway. It all gets very Timothy Leary and Doc meets up with Kathulos (seriously!), a plant dude.... He attacks Doc and he beats off the first wave of vines and things, then gets his soul sucked into Kathulos, which gives him knowledge to beat him; but, leaves him stranded on this alien, other-dimensional world. I hate it when that happens. Synopsis: Now we are getting blatant. Kathulos? I had forgotten about him... Kathulos is another name from Robert E. Howard. He was the Atlantean wizard doing a Fu Manchu impression in Skull-face. Howard was challenged about the name in the letters page of Weird Tales and denied any connection to C'thulhu. Well, you' d expect that, either way. However, I suspect Roy was deliberately using Howard's pastiche to hide his own pastiche from legal pitfalls. It's much the same as some stories in the Tales of the Shadowmen anthologies, from Black Coat Books. They often substitute the French characters Judex and Doc Ardan for the Shadow and Doc Savage. Both of the French characters predate the pulp heroes; but, the modern writers are using them as pastiches of the pulp heroes, as ,much as for their original version. Judex is a cloaked avenger of injustice; but, he owes far more to Alexandre Dumas, as he is very much stitched out of the cloth of the Count of Monte Cristo. Doc Ardan is a scientist/adventurer; but, not necessarily the physical marvel that Clark Savage is. I have no idea if Walter Gibson or Lester Dent were even aware of their French antecedents (though Judex appeared in a silent film serial), though it would seem unlikely (though not impossible). Howard, and Roy, are both aware of Lovecraft and Roy is definitely aware that Howard was challenged on his material's similarity to Lovecraft. I think it made a perfect substitute for him to do Lovecraftian horror, without licensing from Lovecraft's estate. I liken it to doing a Star Wars comic, but basing it on Battle Beyond the Stars. It's a copy of a copy and its pretty fuzzy around the edges.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 26, 2018 17:07:50 GMT -5
Marvel Premiere #9Creative Team: Steve Englehart-writer/co-plotter, Frank Brunner-penciller/co-plotter, Ernie Cha-inks, John Costanza-letters, Dave Hunt-colors, Roy Thomas-edits. This begins the Englehart/Brunner run on Dr Strange, probably the most lauded after Ditko. Synopsis: Dr Strange is flying over the dead planet of Kathulos and he travels inside and sets off a chain reaction that explodes the planet! Doc rides a shockwave and some trippy colored discs and has an encounter with an old monster he faced before, which just ups and disappears. he has a conversation with a disembodied voice, which may or may not be Shuma-Gorath. the voice says he will someday see its true form. Doc sees himself in a crucifixion pose, which also disappears. Doc uses the Eye of Agamotto to follow the vanished trail, which leads him back to Earth. On Earth, Wong and Clea leave Stonehenge, when Clea sense they need to move on, for a coming battle. Doc turns up in Tibet, at the temple of Kaa-U (strange name for a university...), where he finds the Ancient One and a Living Buddha. AO says it is time for him to die and LB tries to stop him revealing things to DS. He unleashes mindless minions to attack, as you do. The Ancient One shows Doc the crypt, which is where the dead of his order reside and it is his time. Turns out, he unleashed the trail that led Doc here and he also, created Shuma-Gorath, somehow. He has to use up his power to save Strange, which prevents Shuma-Gorath from just fading away, as AO dies. Now, SG has been released and the AO is dead. Dr Strange is left puzzled. Thoughts: Wha? Not sure if this is what Roy intended or just Englehart trying to clean up the mess and move on. It's got plenty of Ditko visual touches, thanks to Brunner and makes little sense, thanks to Englehart; but, hopefully, next issue will bring an end to this whole exercise. Something big is going down, according to Clea.
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