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Post by shaxper on Jan 29, 2019 8:44:48 GMT -5
As beccabear mentioned, the preface was by Jim Starlin - it's signed in the bottom right corner. Thanks again for being my volunteer editor. I really do appreciate it. In order to keep up with the frequency of these reviews, I am often composing them while taking my kids to religious school, or gymnastics, etc. You're sitting there, knowing you have an hour to kill, and so you bust out the laptop, but suddenly your child has a headache, or the teacher has a question, or another parent is feeling conversational and you don't want to be rude. As a result, no matter how many times I re-check these things, sometimes I reach a conclusion that seems logical only because I am distracted for a moment and miss a critical detail that would otherwise expose the error I am about to make. Not so much an excuse as an explanation. I very much appreciate the corrections, as well as your willingness to keep reading even after I make them.
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Post by MDG on Jan 29, 2019 9:24:37 GMT -5
Batgirl; Batwoman; The Huntress: "Horoscopes of Crime!" Script: Bob Rozakis Pencils: Don Heck Inks: Bob Wiacek (pp. 1-10); Vince Colletta (pp. 11-21) Colors: Jerry Serpe Letters: Clem Robins Grade: B- Another last minute script, Rozakis? Why else do we get two different letterers on this one? I think you mean two different inkers. And I think bringing on Colletta wold mean Wiacek was running late or had to pull out for some reason.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 29, 2019 9:32:30 GMT -5
I think you mean two different inkers. And I think bringing on Colletta wold mean Wiacek was running late or had to pull out for some reason. Or that the script came in at the zero hour?
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 29, 2019 9:57:14 GMT -5
And I think bringing on Colletta wold mean Wiacek was running late or had to pull out for some reason. Or that the script came in at the zero hour? Then it would have been all Colletta.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 10:17:13 GMT -5
The quality of Batman Family really increased when it became a Dollar Comic. Man I really loved that format back then! I think I bought everything that was published in that format at that time. I probably would have even bought World's Worst Comics by Chuck Austen & Rob Liefeld....
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Post by shaxper on Jan 29, 2019 12:17:10 GMT -5
The quality of Batman Family really increased when it became a Dollar Comic. Man I really loved that format back then! Even just the covers grew insanely more impressive! When I was just starting out as a comic collector at the age of 9, I was grabbing every "dollar" issue of Detective Comics I could find in the back issue bins because they looked like they were exploding with awesomeness.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 12:36:33 GMT -5
At that time normal sized 32 pagers only had 17 pages of story content for 35 cents. The Dollar Comics had 64 pages of story content. What a bargain! Still stayed a bargain when the 32 pagers jumped to 50 cents with 25 pages of story content.
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Post by Chris on Jan 29, 2019 16:15:24 GMT -5
I make my case for why I see this as a forcible ejection in my most recent review above. Essentially, while Rozakis was still producing a comparable amount of pages to what he was before, everything he had been doing with Batgirl and Robin, as well as his plans for Harlequin and Betty Kane, get swept away with this issue. Even he attributes it to losing control of the title in an interview I quote in that review. Fair enough. I guess that counts as a demotion. It would have been hilarious if the artist or letterer had worked in a small "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" sign somewhere in the background. I think you should rescript these stories and un-Rozakis them You have no one to blame for this but yourself.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 29, 2019 16:30:31 GMT -5
You have no one to blame for this but yourself. You are so hired
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Post by beccabear67 on Jan 29, 2019 16:41:31 GMT -5
I just had a sudden flashback of some Dell Duck Family album comics... do you think Tarzan Family, Superman Family, Batman Family... could've owed even slightly to the Duck Family? Now I'm dreaming up some sort of All-Duck Comics Quartery mash-up... "This Issue: The Cracking Origin Of Huey, Dewey And That Other Guy!" Splash page of a younger Grandma Duck sitting on eggs...
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Post by Chris on Jan 29, 2019 16:50:41 GMT -5
I just had a sudden flashback of some Dell Duck Family album comics... do you think Tarzan Family, Superman Family, Batman Family... could've owed even slightly to the Duck Family? Now I'm dreaming up some sort of All-Duck Comics Quartery mash-up... "This Issue: The Cracking Origin Of Huey, Dewey And That Other Guy!" Splash page of a younger Grandma Duck sitting on eggs... I heard they were rebooted in the 80s, ditching the third duck and bringing in several original, never-before-seen characters in a comic called "Huey, Dewey, and the News."
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Post by shaxper on Jan 29, 2019 18:17:00 GMT -5
I just had a sudden flashback of some Dell Duck Family album comics... do you think Tarzan Family, Superman Family, Batman Family... could've owed even slightly to the Duck Family? Now I'm dreaming up some sort of All-Duck Comics Quartery mash-up... "This Issue: The Cracking Origin Of Huey, Dewey And That Other Guy!" Splash page of a younger Grandma Duck sitting on eggs... LOL I think DC was looking at Marvel's Giant-Size books, and that Marvel had been looking at Archie's Giant Series. It was all about rack space. But maybe Archie had been looking back to what Dell did two decades earlier. I suppose it's possible.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jan 29, 2019 18:30:12 GMT -5
*ahem*
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Post by beccabear67 on Jan 29, 2019 19:20:50 GMT -5
Oh yeah, those guys! -D'oh! They were first in so many things, but I don't know if any of them ever walked like a duck or talked like a duck. I even owned three original Marvel Family comics once too. Never did get a copy of Hoppy though... -Baw!
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 30, 2019 0:31:30 GMT -5
I just had a sudden flashback of some Dell Duck Family album comics... do you think Tarzan Family, Superman Family, Batman Family... could've owed even slightly to the Duck Family? Now I'm dreaming up some sort of All-Duck Comics Quartery mash-up... "This Issue: The Cracking Origin Of Huey, Dewey And That Other Guy!" Splash page of a younger Grandma Duck sitting on eggs... I heard they were rebooted in the 80s, ditching the third duck and bringing in several original, never-before-seen characters in a comic called "Huey, Dewey, and the News." Well, that was 20 years after the 60s reboot of Huey, Dewey and Louie-Louie (whoa-oh-me gotta go...)
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