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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 5, 2021 18:23:22 GMT -5
Detective Comics #509 (December 1981) ............ - Even assuming Supergirl stopped to use her X-ray vision in order to avoid plumbing, electrical wires, and gas lines... ...where the hell did she get a hydraulic lift from?? Gotham Nappa Auto; they have everything!
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Post by shaxper on Jun 5, 2021 23:33:51 GMT -5
Batman #343 (January 1982) "Odyssey's End" Script: Gerry Conway Pencils: Trevor Von Eeden Inks: Rodin Rodriguez Colors: Carl Gafford Letters: Pierre Bernard Jr. Grade: D- The final installment in Robin's decade-and-a-half-long solo feature is neither anywhere near as meaningful nor interesting as the title of this story might imply. The culmination of Dick's inner journey and quest for identity is offered to us as a recap banner at the start of the issue, even though we never actually saw him arrive at any of these truths: His quest is done because Dick Giordano says it is. And the rest of the story is just as forgettable. An excessive amount of recap from last issue's forgettable adventure aside, the entire plot of this story can be glimpsed in only four panels: Yep. That's pretty much it. You can guess how he gets freed, and does it even matter how he got into this trap in the first place? What's weird, though, is that even Conway seems too bored to wrap up the story properly by delivering the obligatory action scene. We just skip right on over it. I guess the multiple pages of recap in an eight page feature were more important. Clearly, this feature didn't mean a damn to Conway, nor to Giordano, and it was time for it to go. My only regret is that, with all that was happening with Robin over in the New Teen Titans, and with all Wolfman had tried to do with him in this title before Wolfman was suddenly removed, there was so much potential to explore Robin as a character, and it was totally squandered. Minor Details:- If the events of Batman #337 occurred six months ago, then Robin's world is moving in real-time. Probably not a choice you want to be making with a guy who has managed to remain the "Teen Wonder" for two decades now. - I love when Conway pulls b.s. like this at the start of these stories: Maybe he was just a doctor with a sense of humor? Heck, maybe he'd just worked a double and didn't realize it was upside down. Last issue, Robin leapt into action because he didn't like a guy's tattoo. This issue, someone's pin is upside down. Had there been a next issue, maybe he'd take down some dude for not tucking in his shirt! Of course, If he wants to be the fashion police, he might want to check those shortpants first... ----- Next up, Robin rejoins the lead Batman feature as Batman's teen sidekick, a position he hadn't held on a regular basis since 1969. Not that it will last.
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Post by zaku on Jun 6, 2021 1:37:36 GMT -5
I can confirm that in their previous team-up ( Superman Family #171) they didn't know each other's secret identity. Thanks for this! By the way, if you want to read a story about a competent Batgirl, I absolutely suggest this one, written by Elliot S! Maggin.
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Post by shaxper on Jun 6, 2021 8:11:47 GMT -5
By the way, if you want to read a story about a competent Batgirl, I absolutely suggest this one, written by Elliot S! Maggin. I don't think your link worked. I'm a HUGE fan of the work he did on Batgirl in Batman Family and wasn't aware he'd written her elsewhere!
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 6, 2021 8:16:20 GMT -5
I was sitting here thinking, that’s the Cleopatra one, isn’t it?
Yes. Yes it is.
It’s nuts.
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Post by shaxper on Jun 6, 2021 8:20:02 GMT -5
I was sitting here thinking, that’s the Cleopatra one, isn’t it? Yes. Yes it is. A google search suggests we're talking about Superman Family #171. I'd generally skipped the Superman Family stories because most of them featured Earth 2 versions of Batgirl and Robin, but apparently I overlooked this gem. I'll give it a read. Thanks!
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 6, 2021 8:38:00 GMT -5
It’s reprinted in Showcase Presents: Batgirl.
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Post by zaku on Jun 6, 2021 11:01:00 GMT -5
By the way, if you want to read a story about a competent Batgirl, I absolutely suggest this one, written by Elliot S! Maggin. I don't think your link worked. I'm a HUGE fan of the work he did on Batgirl in Batman Family and wasn't aware he'd written her elsewhere! Yep! It's the only Supergirl/Batgirl team-up that seemed a real team-up. In the previous ones they barely interacted, in this one you are reviewing, well, you are perfectly explaining what's wrong in it. But the Maggin's one, well, hits the perfect spot.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jun 6, 2021 12:31:38 GMT -5
Maggin also wrote Batgirl in Superman #268 & 279.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 6, 2021 20:20:49 GMT -5
Is one of those the one at the Haunted House? That was a good one.
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Post by zaku on Jun 7, 2021 5:56:12 GMT -5
Is one of those the one at the Haunted House? That was a good one. According to the synopsis I found online, it seems no. dc.fandom.com/wiki/Superman_Vol_1_268dc.fandom.com/wiki/Superman_Vol_1_279Probably you are referring this one dc.fandom.com/wiki/DC_Comics_Presents_Vol_1_19By the way, while I was searching about Pre-Crisis Supergirl/Batgirl team-ups, I realized how little they (with the exception of her cousin with the former and the Bat-Family with the latter) interacted with the rest of Dc Universe (unlike their male colleagues). It was exceptionally jarring with the Maiden of Steel, considering she was probably the most powerful being on Earth after Superman. But, according to the reviews I found online, all she did was fight lackluster baddies and complain about her everyday job.
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Post by zaku on Jun 7, 2021 5:58:07 GMT -5
I was sitting here thinking, that’s the Cleopatra one, isn’t it? Yes. Yes it is. A google search suggests we're talking about Superman Family #171. I'd generally skipped the Superman Family stories because most of them featured Earth 2 versions of Batgirl and Robin, but apparently I overlooked this gem. I'll give it a read. Thanks! Here, so you can be sure you missed nothing Earth-1 Batgirl Chronology
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 7, 2021 21:49:46 GMT -5
Yup, that DC comics presents one is the one I was thinking of for sure.
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Post by zaku on Jun 8, 2021 2:52:06 GMT -5
shaxper , do you plan to review Superman Family #171 and Dc Comics Presents 19? Both are within the time frame you have chosen. ( Superman #279 has a cover date "September 1974", so, too early I guess?)
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Post by shaxper on Jun 8, 2021 8:07:01 GMT -5
shaxper , do you plan to review Superman Family #171 and Dc Comics Presents 19? Both are within the time frame you have chosen. ( Superman #279 has a cover date "September 1974", so, too early I guess?) While I was reviewing Batman Family, I stuck only with that. Now that the run is over, I'm following Batgirl and Robin into all of their solo appearances and using the GCD to guide me 👍🏻
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