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Post by brutalis on Dec 17, 2018 13:39:07 GMT -5
(Raises hand) #8. Conan at Marvel...all of it.(...) As an added bonus, I positively love the lens through which Roy Thomas views Conan. He has read EVERYTHING Sprague-Camp, has read EVERYTHING writen by and about Howard, and his order, continuity, and editorial comments all string together Conan's universe in a tight, coherent manner. YES!!!And to all the Conan fans and scholars who turn their nose up at Thomas's contribution because he told the Conan story as a continuing saga, or because he doesn't despise L. Sprague de Camp's work enough, or because he's just a comic-book writer... ...you will have the right to judge when you have done a quarter of what he did for the character. CORRECT! Without Thomas I doubt Conan would be as big of a selling property today. Thomas showed all the best aspects of Howard's (and others) Conan making him much more than just a "barbarian" that slays everything in sight. Roy helped the general public become more aware of and appreciative of all that Conan is and can be.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 17, 2018 13:49:28 GMT -5
Alien: The Illustrated Story (Heavy Metal Communications, Inc.: 1979) Script: Archie Goodwin Artwork: Walt Simonson I'm playing snap with @mrp today. I first saw Ridley Scott's dark, squalid, psycho-sexual sci-if/horror masterpiece around 1984 or 1985, I suppose. It had passed me by when it initially came out (let's face it, it wasn't exactly aimed at 7-year-olds, which is the age I was in 1979). However, my best friend at the time had managed to see it somehow -- I guess it must've been on its TV premiere here in England in the early 80s, or maybe it was on video cassette. Anyway, he regaled me with tales of this X certificate sci-fi movie Alien, and -- as boys of 12 or 13 are wont to do -- he had gone into excessively gory detail about the famous "chest-burster" scene. So, when Alien was next going to be shown on TV, we hatched a plan to surreptitiously set up my family's VCR timer to record it, so that we could both watch it when my parents were next out of the house (no way would they have let me watch an X certificate movie at that age!). Luckily, the covert recording operation went off without a hitch and, if memory serves, we watched it together late one night when he was staying around my house. Needless to say, I was blown away by the film and it's been a firm favourite of mine ever since. Weirdly, given what a fan I am of the film, I only heard about the Archie Goodwin and Walt Simonson comic adaptation about 6 or 7 years ago. I was talking with a friend about Simonson's run on Marvel's Star Wars comic and he suddenly dropped the bombshell that Simonson had also done an adaptation of Alien with Archie Goodwin at around the same time. Hearing this was all the encouragement I needed to track it down, because I love Simonson's artwork and Goodwin was another stalwart of Marvel's SW run. Thanks to eBay, I finally got hold of a copy at a price that I was happy to pay. The adaptation itself is excellent. I wouldn't say that it is superior to the film, like mrp does, but it is a lot better than a lot of other comic adaptations of movies. Goodwin and Simonson work together in perfect synergy, creating a faithful adaptation that manages to retain the suspense, creepiness, and claustrophobic horror of the film (not necessarily an easy task with sequential art). Overall, it's a fairly quick read, but it's anything but lightweight; this is a comic book that carries the gravity and mood of the film extremely well. If you're a fan of Alien or Goodwin and Simonson's work, then this is well worth your time seeking out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 14:12:47 GMT -5
Goodwin and Simonson work together in perfect synergy, creating a faithful adaptation that manages to retain the suspense, creepiness, and claustrophobic horror of the film ( not necessarily an easy task with sequential art) Good point!
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 17, 2018 14:31:00 GMT -5
My #8 is a little comic that seemed to slip out in the 80s, based on a 20 year-old cartoon, about a boy and his dog and some science stuff. Each week, the kid and his buddy and their dog got in trouble, while the boy's scientist dad was helping some government or something or conducting experiments and dad and his male companion had to go rescue them from some nasty character; often a stereotyped figure. Dull stuff, right? Here, judge for yourself.... At least the music was cool..... So, in 1986, Hanna-Barbera was launching a new syndicated version of Jonny Quest, with all new episodes and some new characters. H-B wasn't in the best of shape by these days and they went to a smaller company about developing a comic to help promote the series. That company was Comico and the series was awesome! The series was written by William Messner-Loebs; for my money, one of THE most under-rated writers of 80s and 90s comics. He was perfect for this series, as his own Journey was a world of classic adventure, with interesting characters. Loebs brought the Quest characters to life and added layers to them. The second issue features the story of how Jonny's mother died and Race Bannon came to join the team. It's a moving issue, as we see how Jonny's mother helped light the spirit of adventure in Jonny and pulled her husband out of the lab and into the world. You only have a few pages to meet her and get to know her, before she is gone; but, you feel her loss as much as Jonny. Even Dr Zinn admired and respected this woman. That's writing! Art featured rotating guest appearances, from creator Doug Wildey, to Dan Spiegle, Steve Rude, Dave Stevens, the Kuberts, and many many more. Regular art, after a while, came from Marc Hempel and Mark Wheatley, who knocked it out of the park, every time. Stories were new, featuring a mix of adventure and character moments, with old favorites, like Dr Zinn and Jezebel Jade reappearing, while adding new ones, like a social worker........... (Sorry for the interruption; cate wanted to perch on my shoulder) .......who checks up on Jonny and Hadji's welfare and schooling, ends up caught up in an adventure, and becomes a love interest for Dr Quest. Bandit took center stage in a story about dognapping for illegal fights, where his heroism comes to the fore and we empathize with Jonny as he searches for his beloved dog. We get a potential future for Jonny, seeming doppelgangers for the Quests, in a small town, and even an evil, alternate universe version of the team. Dr Quest got an issue where his reputation allows him to use a garden hose spray nozzle to make a pair of crooks soil themselves! One featured a video recording for a time capsule, with everything told from the POV of the lens, while everyone acts differently, for the camera (hilarious issue). Jezebel Jade got a spin-off miniseries and Doug Wildey recreated 3 classic episodes in Jonny Quest Classics. The series lasted longer than most expected, though it was little more than a cult favorite; but, it was a damned good cult favorite and the new cartoon series should have hired Loebs to write for them, as his work was far better than their stories, which few people saw, due to poor syndication. H-B proved unable to duke it out with the likes of Filmation (He-Man and She-Ra) and DIC (Inspector Gadget). Everyone still preferred the original series, where people got shot and killed, and monsters were truly scary. In an age where tons of stuff is being reprinted, this series cries out for collected editions. The art is great, the stories are brilliant; and, Messner-Loebs could use the income.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 17, 2018 14:59:04 GMT -5
Alien: The Illustrated Story (Heavy Metal Communications, Inc.: 1979) Script: Archie Goodwin Artwork: Walt Simonson With All the love this is getting I'm no longer upset that it just missed my list. I love this book, the art is amazing and the pacing is just fantastic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 15:41:53 GMT -5
Raymond Chandler's Philip Marlowe: The Little Sister by Michael Lark (Fireside Books 1997) I'm a huge fan of Raymond Chandler...and harboiled detectives in general. I came across this book at a remainder bookstore that used to be in the outlet mall in Boise. I used to stop there a couple times a year and they would periodically have some graphic novels and some other comics related stuff (I got the first two volumes of Flash Archives there). I was immediately drawn in by the Steranko cover. But I was blown away by Michael Lark's artwork. This is a pretty faithful adaptation of Chandler's novel. And there almost certainly isn't a better artist for it than Lark. His work just oozes the late 40s, early 50s noir feel. It doesn't hurt that his is one of Chandler's best Marlowe novels even given the fact that the plot is Byzantine and Chandler was completely pissed off at the world when he wrote it. This is one of those happy lucky comic book buys that turns out to be a great thing. I too stumbled upon this book in a bookstore about a decade or so ago, and it was one of my near misses. It is fantastic. -M
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Post by DubipR on Dec 17, 2018 15:51:27 GMT -5
Raymond Chandler's Philip Marlowe: The Little Sister by Michael Lark (Fireside Books 1997) I'm a huge fan of Raymond Chandler...and harboiled detectives in general. I came across this book at a remainder bookstore that used to be in the outlet mall in Boise. I used to stop there a couple times a year and they would periodically have some graphic novels and some other comics related stuff (I got the first two volumes of Flash Archives there). I was immediately drawn in by the Steranko cover. But I was blown away by Michael Lark's artwork. This is a pretty faithful adaptation of Chandler's novel. And there almost certainly isn't a better artist for it than Lark. His work just oozes the late 40s, early 50s noir feel. It doesn't hurt that his is one of Chandler's best Marlowe novels even given the fact that the plot is Byzantine and Chandler was completely pissed off at the world when he wrote it. This is one of those happy lucky comic book buys that turns out to be a great thing. Excellent choice. You'll be seeing that down the line for sure...
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Post by DubipR on Dec 17, 2018 16:01:37 GMT -5
#8: SUPERMAN'S METROPOLISWritten by: Randy & Jean-Marc Lofficier Drawn by: Ted McKeever Fritz Lang's legendary film, the imagery of Metropolis was ripe for a comic adaptation. This Elseworlds from 1996 was a brilliant bolt from DC and a perfect match. Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster combine with the vision of renowned filmmaker Fritz Lang in Superman's Metropolis, a remarkable Elseworlds graphic novel setting the Man of Tomorrow in the City of Tomorrow. Ted McKeever's beautiful painted art superbly evokes the powerful imagery of Lang's film and the classic heroism of the Superman comics in the story adapted by frequent Moebius collaborators Jean-Marc and Randy Lofficier. Honestly if this was written by an American, the feel of the book would've been too American. McKeever, who should be on everyone's list of favorite artists, paints these gorgeous pages that are straight from the celluloid. The city, Moloch to the Maria/Lois Lane hybrid... its a visual feast
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Dec 17, 2018 17:09:59 GMT -5
Alien: The Illustrated Story (Heavy Metal Communications, Inc.: 1979) Script: Archie Goodwin Artwork: Walt Simonson Goodwin and Simonson work together in perfect synergy, creating a faithful adaptation that manages to retain the suspense, creepiness, and claustrophobic horror of the film (not necessarily an easy task with sequential art). Hmmm, with all the love being thrown at this today I have got to be the voice of reason, all my own humble opinion of course..cos you all cant help being wrong This is exactly what is wrong with this book, not right. I tracked it down and read it years ago, and see this as a perfect example with what is wrong with many adaptations( and lets be fair, unlike most of what has been posted here over the last couple days this does adapt the movie, rather than expand on the setting, or interpret in ways beyond the original creation). A movie as tense as Alien just does not translate to a comic, a book maybe, if not regurgitated by Alan Dean Foster, but even Archie and Walt dont deliver an experience like the film. Yes Walt draws it pretty, and yes it tells the story, but Alien is so much more than that, its gut wrenching terror for most of the second half, and this comic just aint. Rant over, youre entitled to like what you will, and thats what I love about this place, we celebrate the variety of our experiences, I just had to add some balance to the conversation.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 17, 2018 17:17:44 GMT -5
Huh. I liked the comic better than the movie. I'm a terrible wuss but I didn't think Alien was all that scary and Simonson, at that point in his career, was a more interesting visual stylist than Ridley Scott. AlienS plural was pretty damned fun, but the original was just too slow for my taste.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 17, 2018 18:03:54 GMT -5
#8 John Carter, Warlord of MarsMarvel comics, 1977-1979 (28 issues plus three annuals). I had seen the name “John Carter” as a house ad in the first novel I ever read, the French translation of The Son of Tarzan. Carter seemed to be some kind of space hero, but that’s about all I knew. Then I got my hands of John Carter #4, one of the first English-language comics I ever bought (I spoke precious English back then). I didn’t understand all the subtleties of the plot, but one of the great aspects of comis as a learning tool is that you can still figure out what the story is about and try to connect the written words with the actions depicted. And I was THRILLED!!! Here was a hero who used a sword and fought monsters like Conan, but who also had a ray gun and moved about on unroofed flying boats! I had never seen such a blend of sci-fi and S&S!!! Needless to say, the next thing you know I was at the school’s library, which thankfully had all of the five John Carters translated to French at the time. I read them all in record time and was a born-again Barsoom fan!!! Marvel’s John Carter remains THE real version for this particular fan. Forget Frazetta, forget later comics; THIS is what my mind pictures when I read a John Carter novel, and THAT is what a proper Dejah Thoris looks like. “The air-pirates of Mars”, the first story arc, could easily have come from the pen of Edgar Rice Burroughs (although it was written by Marv Wolfman) and even if I think Chris Claremont infused the title with too many Claremontisms during his run, the comic always remained true to who the characters are. Great, great adaptation.
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Post by Farrar on Dec 17, 2018 18:55:22 GMT -5
#8 Joan of Arc (Ingrid Bergman film) Magazine Enterprises 1949 plus a Timely bonus! 1948 Ingrid Bergman starred in the 1948 film Joan of Arc, which famously flopped despite the talent involved (Bergman, Jose Ferrer, Cecil Kellaway, Alan "Alfred" Napier, directed by Victor Fleming, screenplay by Maxwell Anderson). A few months after the film's release in November 1948, Magazine Enterprises published this one-shot Joan of Arc comic based on the movie: And a few months before the film's November 1948 world premiere in NYC, Timely came out with issue #3 of its Ideal: A Classical Comic series...and look whose likeness is on the cover. I've always found this cover captivating; I love the shading and details and Bergman/Joan's intense gaze. Such a striking cover image (the interior art has a nondescript, non-Bergmanesque Joan). Back in the 1940s, Bergman was identified with Joan (well, until she met Rossellini, anyway), since in addition to the film she'd also played Joan in the 1946 Broadway play Joan of Lorraine, an adaptation by the aforementioned Maxwell Anderson. In the play, Ingrid played an actress who was playing Joan. Basically, a "play within a play" set-up.
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Post by foxley on Dec 17, 2018 21:52:44 GMT -5
8. G.I. Joe: Special Missions #1 - 28 (Marvel, 1986-89)I'll start with a confession: I have never seen the G.I. Joe animated series. My introduction to the franchise came through the comics and, more specifically, through this title. Larry Hama's run on G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero was so successful that it was a given a spin-off, and Larry used this books to tell stories that he couldn't in the main book. This is the book's main strength and why I consider it superior to ARAH. In this book, Hama was freed from the constraints having to use the ongoing ARAH storyline, and COBRA as the main villain with all its attached silliness. Instead, he penned a series of special ops/espionage stories in which the Joes take on terrorists, dictators and other threats based on the real world. Many of his stories could have been pulled from the headlines of the day. Hama wrote stories of a depth and complexity not possible when your heroes are fighting an evil organization whose hierarchy includes an orthodontist turned mind control specialist, and an accountant dressed as a bird of prey. For example, in the first issue, what starts off appearing to be a tale of naval derring-do turns out to be a complicated game of bluff and double-bluff carried out by the nautical Joes against the Oktober Guard. Other highlights include clashing with a squad of Mossad agents as bothe team attempt to extract a Nazi war criminal from a South American hacienda; a harrowing Outback solo story where the unarmed Outback has to escape from an eastern European country while being pursued by a sadistic secret police captain; and a hostage situation where Chuckles, Lady Jaye and Shockwave suddenly realise they may not know who are the terrorist and who are the hostages. There are few duds, particularly late in the run, usually where editorial interference has forced him to include some element he'd really rather not. But, overall, if you're looking for stories with a depth not usually found in military comics, these are worth a look.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 17, 2018 22:37:10 GMT -5
8. Warp 1983
Publisher - First Comics Year - 1983 Writer- Peter Gillis Artists- Frank Brunner/Bob Smith
First comics company started publishing books in 1983 and I was hooked by their very first book called Warp. It was adapted from a play of the same name that actually played for a short while on Broadway after time in smaller theaters. The plot involves a bank teller Dave Carson who gets transported into another dimension to help fight a war involving magic and Sword play and is aided by a female warrior woman called Sargon. Neal Adams was involved in the set design for the play but I’m guessing they couldn’t afford him for any of the comic work. It’s quite a good series which included 3 annuals and a 19 issue run. It was nice to see that First comics could get Frank Brunner of Dr Strange fame to start this series up and try to compete with the big two.
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Post by foxley on Dec 17, 2018 22:58:08 GMT -5
8. Warp 1983
Publisher - First Comics Year - 1983 Writer- Peter Gillis Artists- Frank Brunner/Bob Smith
First comics company started publishing books in 1983 and I was hooked by their very first book called Warp. It was adapted from a play of the same name that actually played for a short while on Broadway after time in smaller theaters. The plot involves a bank teller Dave Carson who gets transported into another dimension to help fight a war involving magic and Sword play and is aided by a female warrior woman called Sargon. Neal Adams was involved in the set design for the play but I’m guessing they couldn’t afford him for any of the comic work. It’s quite a good series which included 2 annuals and a 19 issue run. It was nice to see that First comics could get Frank Brunner of Dr Strange fame to start this series up and try to compete with the big two. Wow! I knew of Warp but had no idea it was based on a play. The things you learn during the 12 Days.
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