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Post by shaxper on Dec 26, 2018 16:30:52 GMT -5
Posting at the request of Cei-U! What gems graced your chopping block?
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Post by brutalis on Dec 26, 2018 17:14:35 GMT -5
Missed it by that much (thanks Agent Smart) for my lists:
Tarzan: ANY Tarzan. Dell, gold Key, Charlton, DC, Marvel, Darkhorse, IDW. CLASSIC in every way. Indiana Jones from Dark Horse. too many mini-series to list. Great fun. Battlestar Galactica. Ernie Colon and Walt Simonson. Need i say more? Planet of the Apes: Marvel Black and White Magazine. Ohh la la. Star Wars: entire Marvel run. Knew others would list. Goodwin/Infantino took it beyond the movies best~ Star Trek: Marvel and DC. Again knew others would list. That 1st run Barr/David/Sutton. 1st return to Mirror Universe of TOS is wonderful! Strong story lines through all of it. Include Next Generation DC! Frankenstein Monster: color comic. The Ploog adaption is truly creatively and brilliantly illustrated. Stainless Steel Rat from 2000AD. Glad someone else listed! Just missed out. Shadow: DC. both the early Kaluta/Robbins and the Later Chaykin and Baker. Master of Kung Fu. Again knew others would list. Moench/Gulacy/Zeck/Day. Truly outstanding read! Solomon Kane: Marvel color issues with Chaykin and Blevins. Spectacular. My fave REH. Include Kull! Camelot 3000. DC and another near miss. Zorro by Toth. Only ever had one collection and it was superb.
There were sooooo many others to think about but I choose to stick with what I collected and read over and over again during my years in high school for the most part. There is quite a bit earlier and later that I have read or seen but never really gone quite as insane over as those things when I began my feast of comic book collecting in those glorious days of yore...
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Post by Phil Maurice on Dec 26, 2018 17:41:51 GMT -5
I really wanted to include Jackie Gleason and The Honeymooners, the 12-issue, 1956 series from National. Several sources claim that Mort Drucker provided some of the art (which is strong throughout), but I was unable to corroborate that. In fact, there doesn't seem to be a verifiable record of credits for almost the entire series, and I found my write-up was more and more about that appalling condition than about the comics themselves. So it was cut.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 26, 2018 17:48:05 GMT -5
I really wanted to find a way to work in R. Crumb's Heroes of Blues and Country. But I couldn't.
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Post by Jeddak on Dec 26, 2018 18:06:17 GMT -5
Well, some of the stuff I considered include
The Phantom - Don Newton Dark Shadows - just cause it existed in the first place The Man from U.N.C.L.E. - ditto Dracula - the Dell superhero, just cause it was so off-the-wall Tarzan - no one version satisfied me John Carter - ditto Doc Savage - ditto The Shadow - ditto Radioactive Man - the mini that satirized different eras Space: 1999 - better than it should have been Alice Cooper Star Trek - probably one of Peter David's runs Master of Kung Fu - Moench/Gulacy/Day
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 26, 2018 18:41:12 GMT -5
I didn't have many entries that I missed, but I considered the Simpsons and Tales of Suspense # 66 that featured Hitler in the origin story for the Red Skull.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 26, 2018 21:19:12 GMT -5
Dune, a Marvel Super Special comic, adapting the movie adapting the novel. Bill Sienkiewicz produced some of his best work of the ‘80s for that book, and it is quite a feat to turn a 500 pages novel into a two hours film, then into a 40-something pages comic, without cutting so much material as to make the story unrecognizable! Logan’s run, at Marvel, one of the best movie adaptations I’ve read, right up there with Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back. Marvel used five issues to tell the tale, allowing it to work as a real comic-book story and not a spark notes kind of thing. Lovely artwork by George Perez and Klaus Janson.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 23:39:04 GMT -5
Considering I could easily have done a top 100 instead of a top 12, I have a lot of stuff that didn't make the list.
Some of the stuff that almost made it (many did make other people's lists though)...
Steranko's Outlander PCR's Ring of the Nibelung Red Nails by Thomas & BWS Kubert's Tarzan PCR's Conan and the Jewels of Gwalhur Image/Top Cow Battle of the Planets maxi & spin-offs with Alex Ross as art director Comico's Jonny Quest Marvel's Empire Strikes Back (Star Wars 39-44?) Star Wars Dark Empire (Dark Horse) Marvel's adaptation of Kull's Shadow Kingdom Dark Horse's adaptation of Kull' Shadow Kingdom (that story is one of my top 3 REH stories) Fafhrd & Gray Mouser in Sword of Sorcery from DC Michael Moorcock's Multiverse Elric: Making of a Sorcerer (DC) First Comics Elric adaptations First's Chronicles of Corum First's Hawkmoon adaptations Marvel's Killraven in Amazing Adventures PCR's Killraven GN Master of Kung Fu Nightside by Robert Weinberger (published by Marvel) Marvel's Battlestar Galactica Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere adapted by Mike Carey Will Eisner's The Last Knight: An Introduction to Don Quixote Will Eisner's Sundiata (may have been ineligible as mythology) Will Eisner's Moby Dick Jerry Bingham's Beowulf OGN (ineligible as mythology) Gareth Hinds' Beowulf Gareth Hinds' MacBeth (too recent) Ellison's Demon with a Glass Hand adapted by MArshall Rogers Bloch's Hell on Earth adapted by Giffen Silverberg's Nightwings adapted by Carey Bates & Gene Colan Little Shop of Horrors (DC, art by Gene Colan) Fall of Cthulhu from BOOM! Call of Cthulhu by Estaban Marato published by Cross Plains Comics Landsdale's adaptation of The Dunwich Horror (too recent from IDW) Further Adventures of Indiana Jones Young Indiana Jones Chronicles Supernatural Thrillers #3 (Howard Worms of the Earth) REH's Almuric by Thomas and Tim Conrad Marvel's Tarzan Dark Horse's Tarzan Solomon Kane from Marvel Thongor in Creatures on the Loose Thieves World adapted by Tim Sale (from Starblaze) The Fairy Tales of Oscar Wilde adapted by PCR Shanower's Oz GNs Robert Anton Wilson & Michael Shea's Illuminatus Trilogy from Eye-n-Apple (& Rip-Off Press) Zinn's A People's History of the American Empire in GN form
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I could keep going and I am sure there is stuff I am forgetting again. Kurt could have announced the topic in July, and I wouldn;t have had enough time to sort through all the adaptations I wanted to give consideration to for this year's theme.
-M
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 27, 2018 5:00:46 GMT -5
There's a few that fell to the wayside as I was deciding what I wanted to include, but the only that one was actually 'chopped,' because I even had scans ready and until about day 7, I was pretty sure I was going to post it, was Red Nails, by Thomas and BWS. Currently I have it in its original b&w in the first Dark Horse Savage Sword phonebook and the Marvel special edition color reprint from the early 1980s (with the above cover), and I also used to have the Treasury Edition in which it was also reprinted in color. That's the Conan story I've read more times than any other, both in prose and comics. But once I saw that so many others were posting various stories from or the entire run of Marvel's Conan, I decided to leave it out because there were a few other things I wanted to include even more.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 27, 2018 9:53:06 GMT -5
There's a few that fell to the wayside as I was deciding what I wanted to include, but the only that one was actually 'chopped,' because I even had scans ready and until about day 7, I was pretty sure I was going to post it, was Red Nails, by Thomas and BWS. Currently I have it in its original b&w in the first Dark Horse Savage Sword phonebook and the Marvel special edition color reprint from the early 1980s (with the above cover), and I also used to have the Treasury Edition in which it was also reprinted in color. That's the Conan story I've read more times than any other, both in prose and comics. But once I saw that so many others were posting various stories from or the entire run of Marvel's Conan, I decided to leave it out because there were a few other things I wanted to include even more. Excellent choice! My original #1 was the French version of Red Nails, published in colour by Les Humanoïdes Associés in 1976 (using the Marvel Treasury Edition as its source). That book was an unexpected treasure for me at the time (like finding the Holy Grail at a local store) and the source of many, many badly rendered Conan drawings by yours truly! I think it featured Barry Smith at his apex, still combining youthful exuberance with technical mastery.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 27, 2018 10:42:52 GMT -5
I mentioned many od the top contenders who missed my list when they were picked by others so I won't rehash all that, but here are some that didn't get mentioned by anyone else: He-Man: The Comic Strip: I only learned about this one recently(it was a birthday gift from my wife last summer) but I loved the way it continued the original cartoon and brought in elements from figures who never made it to the show, characters from the live action film, and even figures who were never actually released(I'm looking at you He-Ro). It captured the tone of the cartoon beautifully...but the rules stated only media properties adapted into comic books, not comic strips so it couldn't be included but it's well worth picking up if you're a He-Man fan like me. Star Wars Comic Strip: Like the above pick this one was disqualified, but it's seriously my favorite continuation of the Star Wars universe. Sure, some strips were clunkers but may more were pure magic. Starstream: This ill-fated 1976 sci-fi anthology by Whitman Comics featured a plethora of classic sci-fi adaptations based on the works of Isaac Asimov, Anne McCaffrey and Robert Silverberg. The covers are amazing, and the writing inside was good...but oh boy was the art super boring, which was why it didn't make my list, despite it's awesome concept. "Mac" Beth: I don't remember where I first saw this unpublished ganster version of Macbeth by Mort Meskin, but I've loved it for a long while now. However, since it was never officially published and I couldn't ascertain when it made it's way online I didn't think it was "old" enough to count so it missed my list. Grateful Dead Comix: I love the hand painted art work in these...but although they are technically comic book adaptations of the Dead's greatest hits they come across as comic book music videos than adaptations as they are just art accompanied by the lyrics rather than making the songs into stories. This is one that surprised me, and just missed my list: Bernie Wrightson’s “The Black Cat.”: This short, which was also Wrightson’s Warren debut in Creepy #62, was a fantastic adaptation of one of my favorite Poe stories and the art is amazing.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 27, 2018 11:19:05 GMT -5
My goal this year was to steer clear of major properties that DC and Marvel did several adaptations and showcase books that should be on people's radar. I went with the Superman books because honestly I thought no one else would choose them; I was happy to see someone else pick War of the Worlds as well. And Sandman #19, because its Neil Gaiman... you can't go wrong with anything he writes. Last minute drops: 13. The Clowns by J Craig Russell- I knew Russell would be extremely represented with the Ring of the Niebelung and perhaps other operas. And I love them all but his take on I, Pagliacci is my favorite of his opera. Stark black and white its utterly gorgeous. One of the last to go... 14. Lorna: Leviathan by Alfonso Azpiri- I had to PM Kurt about this one. After my number 12 pick as it was a loose adaptation, this amazing adaptation of Moby Dick was to be in place of one of my Superman picks. 15. Married With Children - I loved the TV and comic back in the day. 16. Elvira- Tom Sutton's art on the short lived DC run is a blast. 17. Doc Savage- the Curtiss Magazine run was way better than the Marvel comics. 18. Victoria Murders by Rick Geary- I could've posted all of these books separately and called it a day. They're brilliant tellings of real murders of the Victorian era. Highly recommended BOOKS THAT ALMOST MADE IT BUT CAME OUT IN 20091. The Muppet Show by Roger Langridge- I really wanted to put this one in if it made it but it came out in July 2009. Perhaps the best Muppet comic ever put out. 2. The Hunter by Richard Stark & Darwyn Cooke- Early 2009 release date. I'm sure this would've made a lot of people's list
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 27, 2018 11:47:41 GMT -5
Darwyn Cooke's Parker adaptations would have been on my list...likely in the number two slot if eligible.
Shanower and Skottie Young's Oz adaptations would also have been on my list if eligible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 14:51:54 GMT -5
Darwyn Cooke's Parker adaptations would have been on my list...likely in the number two slot if eligible. Shanower and Skottie Young's Oz adaptations would also have been on my list if eligible. First thing I looked at after Kurt announced the theme was the release dates for the Parker adaptations. -M
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 27, 2018 16:43:27 GMT -5
I nixed things from my list when other people covered them. Since I wasn't ranking them, I went the route of adding something different. To that end, I could add several issues of the First comics Classics Illustrated line, such as John K Snyder III's adaptation of Joseph Conrad's the Secret Agent, Rick geary's version of Great expectations, Stephen Grant and Dan Spiegle on The Count of Monte Cristo, Mike Ploog's Tom Sawyer, Joe Staton's A Christmas Carol, Pat Boyette's Treasure Island, and Bill Sienkiewicz's Cyrano de Bergerac.
There is Marvel Preview's "Man-Gods From the Stars," with Doug moench and Alex Nino, adapting Phillip Wylie's Gladiator. Howard Chaykin's Legend, from Wildstorm, which more directly adapts Gladiator. Marvel Super Special had several fun adaptations; but, especially, Raiders of the Lost Ark, with Walt Simonson, John Buscema and Klaus Janson. Howard Chaykin's adaptation of the Bond film, For Your Eyes Only, was also pretty good.
Babylon 5-the comic series came about from Joe Straczynski pitching the idea of continuing some character storylines in a comic series, as well as exploring background and side stories. The end result was a series that picks up Sinclair arriving on Minabr, as the new Earth ambassador, on his road to becoming Valen. Later, they explore Valen's arrival in the past and meeting with the Minbari, building their modern society. One issue was done from the Psi Corps POV. It was a great extension of the series, as were the original novels, thought the comics had tighter connections (until the later books surpassed them).
Innovation and Millennium's Anne Rice adaptations, which were big sellers.
Bill Mummy's Lost in Space continuation. Larry Niven's the Magic Goes Away, from the DC sci-fi graphic novel line, adapted by Paul Kupperberg and Jan Duursema. Excellent fantasy story, greatly elevated by Duursema's art. Joe Haldeman and Marvano's adaptation of Haldeman's the Forever War. Mark Evanier and Steve Rude's Space Ghost one-shot, from Comico Dan Spiegle's work on the maverick comic book, at Western/Gold Key Millennium's Wild Wild West mini-series, which featured Dr Loveless using armored soldiers with hand-held Gatling Guns, a Verne-esque flying ship, and great use of Jim West and Artemus Gordon. if only Barry Sonnenfeld's movie had been this good.
Russ Manning's Tarzan, as well as Kuberts and Buscema's. Mike Grell's James Bond: Permission to Die-nice mix of the literary and cinematic Bond
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