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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 13:36:17 GMT -5
Both are good, but I have to vote for Superman & Spider-Man (1981). The bottom line is, the writing is just better. Better characterization, better dialogue. Plus, we get the bonus of Superman vs. the Hulk and Spider-Man vs. Wonder Woman. If we’re talking about all Bronze Age Marvel-DC crossovers, then I’d vote for X-Men/Teen Titans. Music to my ears! Free cab ride for anyone who has voted for the 1981 crossover...
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Post by dbutler69 on Jan 28, 2019 15:27:56 GMT -5
Both are good, but I have to vote for Superman & Spider-Man (1981). The bottom line is, the writing is just better. Better characterization, better dialogue. Plus, we get the bonus of Superman vs. the Hulk and Spider-Man vs. Wonder Woman. If we’re talking about all Bronze Age Marvel-DC crossovers, then I’d vote for X-Men/Teen Titans. Music to my ears! Free cab ride for anyone who has voted for the 1981 crossover... Sweet! Can you give me a ride to San Francisco? I live in Florida.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 28, 2019 15:55:42 GMT -5
I just had to post these beautiful John Buscema Scans. Superman never looked better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 17:19:57 GMT -5
Music to my ears! Free cab ride for anyone who has voted for the 1981 crossover... Sweet! Can you give me a ride to San Francisco? I live in Florida. Sadly, I can only work in the city I am licensed in. Damn! We need a Global Taxi Licence. If you're ever in the UK...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 17:44:58 GMT -5
Icctrombone ... that's a beauty and that's a story itself and my favorite part of that book.
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Post by Chris on Jan 28, 2019 19:47:39 GMT -5
I have to say that art in the first crossover is superior to the art in the second. Not even a contest. Having said that, let's consider some things... On reflection, my ho-hum reaction to Buscema's work here (he was only doing layouts for Sinnott's finishes, I believe) may be largely attributable to writer Jim Shooter, who as an editor pushed artistic approaches that ensured clarity and readability via what I always found to be an overabundance of medium-range, straightforward panel compositions.That probably had something to do with it. Also consider the staging of scenes in each book. The major example is the big climactic scenes in both. In the first crossover, Spider-Man was fighting Luthor and Doc Ock in a zero-gravity space station, all three bouncing all over the place, while Superman was stopping a tsunami. In the second, Superman was just... standing there.... holding a reactor together so it wouldn't explode, while Spider-Man stared blankly at a computer console until he figured out which switch to flip. Not exactly widescreen summer blockbuster material there. Not to say the second scene wasn't gripping, it was well done. But from an art standpoint, there was a lot less to work with compared to the first one.
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Post by Chris on Jan 28, 2019 19:59:11 GMT -5
A note on the art of the second crossover. From Jim Shooter's blog - I would loved to have seen a Superman/Spider-Man comic drawn by Buscema and inked by Garcia-Lopez. I can't really picture how that combo would look, but I'm sure it would've been amazing. Heck, I would have loved to see one by just Garcia-Lopez. * Shooter notes that the art may have been by Adams' studio and not necessarily Adams himself. Still, Neal likely would have had to approve of it.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jan 29, 2019 19:45:37 GMT -5
Sweet! Can you give me a ride to San Francisco? I live in Florida. Sadly, I can only work in the city I am licensed in. Damn! We need a Global Taxi Licence. If you're ever in the UK... Well, it is on my bucket list.
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