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Post by Dizzy D on Feb 19, 2019 3:52:32 GMT -5
Rebirth currently has 26 titles ongoing so cutting to 22 won't be that difficult. 22 super-hero titles... using current/old stand byes as a guide 1. Batman 2. Detective Comics 3. Superman 4. Action Comics 5. Wonder Woman 6. Aquaman 7. Flash 8. Justice League 9. Justice League Dark 10. Suicide Squad 11. Titans 12. Shazam 13. Harley Quinn 14. Birds of Prey 15. Green Arrow 16. Gotham City Sirens 17. Green Lantern 18. Hawkman 19. Outsiders 20. JSA 21. event/mini 22. event/mini So what's missing from the line up that has to be published? I cut one Justice League title, Red Hood and the Outlaws and Supergirl that are currently being published that I know of, but included a few that have been recently cancelled (Arrow, Titans, Suicide Squad) that have tie ins in other media and others with forthcoming media tie in(Birds of Prey, Gotham City Sirens) or have been announced (Outsiders). Doom Patrol is another possibility but might fit better under one of the imprints (see below). Swamp Thing is a possibility too with the series upcoming on the DC streaming service and a Wal Mart title just launched. Super Sons is a possibility, but again might fit better under the Wonder Comics imprint. I left 2 slots open for minis/events what have you, but they could be taken by ongoings if such things do not count towards the alleged 22 title cap. Action could become a Superman family type title and Detective A Batman family type. Keep the current lead stories, add a few back ups and make it a giant book like the Wal Mart titles. Some of the books will still be biweekly adding to the total units moved and revenue generated. Imprint Wonder Comics (Bendis & friends)Young Justice Wonder Twins Naomi Dial H for Hero these 4 are current, but Bendis showed a lot of Legion of Super-Heroes in his DC research reading, so I would speculate a Legion title to be forthcoming under the imprint, and I would think a Star Girl series to tie in to the upcoming series on the streaming service would fit here too). Wal Mart ComicsBatman Giant Superman Giant Wonder Woman Giant Flash Giant Titans Giant Swamp Thing Giant New Age of Heroes imprint (these I could see being on the chopping block) Silencer Terrifics Curse of Brimstone Vertigo/Sandman Universe ImprintHouse of Whispers The Dreaming Lucifer Books of Magic Vertigo itself will shuffle through titles most with a preordained end point whether it be a mini, maxi or ongoing with a set ending. So again I ask-what's missing that needs to be published that isn't covered by the 22 super-hero books and the imprints? What quintessential DC titles are missing? I am sure I am missing/overlooking something, but it looks like a pretty complete and solid DC line to me. Maybe a Constantine book, but that's all I can see as MIA with that line up. -M
Listen, you'll take my Christopher Priest Deathstroke from my cold dead hands.
More seriously, I hope there will still be room for the weird experiments like Flintstones and Snagglepuss or The Wild Storm.
I'm missing some names on your list (even if I'm not reading them myself): Batgirl and Nightwing.
The New Age of Heroes titles are all about to be cancelled as far as I know.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 3:59:59 GMT -5
Rebirth currently has 26 titles ongoing so cutting to 22 won't be that difficult. 22 super-hero titles... using current/old stand byes as a guide 1. Batman 2. Detective Comics 3. Superman 4. Action Comics 5. Wonder Woman 6. Aquaman 7. Flash 8. Justice League 9. Justice League Dark 10. Suicide Squad 11. Titans 12. Shazam 13. Harley Quinn 14. Birds of Prey 15. Green Arrow 16. Gotham City Sirens 17. Green Lantern 18. Hawkman 19. Outsiders 20. JSA 21. event/mini 22. event/mini So what's missing from the line up that has to be published? I cut one Justice League title, Red Hood and the Outlaws and Supergirl that are currently being published that I know of, but included a few that have been recently cancelled (Arrow, Titans, Suicide Squad) that have tie ins in other media and others with forthcoming media tie in(Birds of Prey, Gotham City Sirens) or have been announced (Outsiders). Doom Patrol is another possibility but might fit better under one of the imprints (see below). Swamp Thing is a possibility too with the series upcoming on the DC streaming service and a Wal Mart title just launched. Super Sons is a possibility, but again might fit better under the Wonder Comics imprint. I left 2 slots open for minis/events what have you, but they could be taken by ongoings if such things do not count towards the alleged 22 title cap. Action could become a Superman family type title and Detective A Batman family type. Keep the current lead stories, add a few back ups and make it a giant book like the Wal Mart titles. Some of the books will still be biweekly adding to the total units moved and revenue generated. Imprint Wonder Comics (Bendis & friends)Young Justice Wonder Twins Naomi Dial H for Hero these 4 are current, but Bendis showed a lot of Legion of Super-Heroes in his DC research reading, so I would speculate a Legion title to be forthcoming under the imprint, and I would think a Star Girl series to tie in to the upcoming series on the streaming service would fit here too). Wal Mart ComicsBatman Giant Superman Giant Wonder Woman Giant Flash Giant Titans Giant Swamp Thing Giant New Age of Heroes imprint (these I could see being on the chopping block) Silencer Terrifics Curse of Brimstone Vertigo/Sandman Universe ImprintHouse of Whispers The Dreaming Lucifer Books of Magic Vertigo itself will shuffle through titles most with a preordained end point whether it be a mini, maxi or ongoing with a set ending. So again I ask-what's missing that needs to be published that isn't covered by the 22 super-hero books and the imprints? What quintessential DC titles are missing? I am sure I am missing/overlooking something, but it looks like a pretty complete and solid DC line to me. Maybe a Constantine book, but that's all I can see as MIA with that line up. -M Listen, you'll take my Christopher Priest Deathstroke from my cold dead hands. More seriously, I hope there will still be room for the weird experiments like Flintstones and Snagglepuss or The Wild Storm. I'm missing some names on your list (even if I'm not reading them myself): Batgirl and Nightwing. The New Age of Heroes titles are all about to be cancelled as far as I know.
rumors are Priest is done with Deathstroke when the current arc is done. Terrifics and Silencer are still going with New Age of Heroes (I found out Curse of Brimstone had a final issue announced after I posted). Nightwing and Batgirl have both struggled with sales and are below the Mendoza lines in terms of current sales, Nightwing taking some hits from the current direction and some bad PR over it's former new writer). He could be folded into the Titans or Outsiders book as a headliner, and Batgirl would be part of whatever Birds of Prey line up would headline that book on my list. In the Wal Mart books Nightwing is folded into the Batman book as one of the features (along with Harley Quinn) and Batgirl is nowhere to be found. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 17:34:05 GMT -5
Apparently DC is having mandatory staff-wide editorial meetings in Burbank today and will roll out a series of announcements at the upcoming Comics Pro retailers meetings, so whatever new policies were decided upon that lead to these new22 rumors will be made public or leaked here in the next few weeks.
-M
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 19, 2019 17:41:32 GMT -5
More seriously, I hope there will still be room for the weird experiments like Flintstones and Snagglepuss or The Wild Storm. If the above bleedingcool article is to be believed, DC is all but done with drastic re-inventions of the Hanna Barbara characters |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 19, 2019 17:50:04 GMT -5
More seriously, I hope there will still be room for the weird experiments like Flintstones and Snagglepuss or The Wild Storm. If the above bleedingcool article is to be believed, DC is all but done with drastic re-inventions of the Hanna Barbara characters One hopes this is wrong since those were by far the most interesting books DC was putting out. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 19, 2019 18:05:39 GMT -5
One hopes this is wrong since those were by far the most interesting books DC was putting out. They probably were among the lowest sellers, too. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 18:14:51 GMT -5
One hopes this is wrong since those were by far the most interesting books DC was putting out. It was a WB decision, not a DC decision. Someone in the HB marketing department didn't like the books, raised a stink about it potentially harming their ability to license the properties for kid's products and someone with decision making ability listened. -M |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 19, 2019 18:31:15 GMT -5
One hopes this is wrong since those were by far the most interesting books DC was putting out. It was a WB decision, not a DC decision. Someone in the HB marketing department didn't like the books, raised a stink about it potentially harming their ability to license the properties for kid's products and someone with decision making ability listened. -M That's really too bad, Snagglepuss was seriously one of the best books DC has put out in a while. In ten years time when the Classic Comics Christmas theme is Favorite Funny Animal Books I'll gladly nominate it as number one and physically fight anyone who doesn't have it at least in their top five. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 19, 2019 18:45:37 GMT -5
It was a WB decision, not a DC decision. Someone in the HB marketing department didn't like the books, raised a stink about it potentially harming their ability to license the properties for kid's products and someone with decision making ability listened. -M That's really too bad, Snagglepuss was seriously one of the best books DC has put out in a while. In ten years time when the Classic Comics Christmas theme is Favorite Funny Animal Books I'll gladly nominate it as number one and physically fight anyone who doesn't have it at least in their top five. Flintstones was equally good. I didn't love any of the others as much as I loved Flintstones and Snagglepuss, but most of them were at least interesting and/or entertaining. Which is pretty rare from DC or Marvel at this point. Tack on the fumble with Russell's "Second Coming" (which frankly looks less edgy than a number of episodes of American Dad) and DC/WB is looking incredibly stodgy. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 22:53:09 GMT -5
That's really too bad, Snagglepuss was seriously one of the best books DC has put out in a while. In ten years time when the Classic Comics Christmas theme is Favorite Funny Animal Books I'll gladly nominate it as number one and physically fight anyone who doesn't have it at least in their top five. Flintstones was equally good. I didn't love any of the others as much as I loved Flintstones and Snagglepuss, but most of them were at least interesting and/or entertaining. Which is pretty rare from DC or Marvel at this point. Tack on the fumble with Russell's "Second Coming" (which frankly looks less edgy than a number of episodes of American Dad) and DC/WB is looking incredibly stodgy. Unnamed sources (take with a grain of salt) say that the current standards handed down by WB would have precluded them publishing Sean Murphy's Punk Rock Jesus and Garth Ennis' Preacher as well (the Vertigo label would do nothing to protect those books). Apparently Didio went to Russell after he got word of the new standards and said they could still do it but it would require massive changes and asked Russell if he wanted to do it or take the book elsewhere, then facilitated Russell getting the rights back which is usually a nightmare at DC (see what Ennis had to do to get the rights to The Boys to take it elsewhere) and could have tied up the property for years. So I don't think it's DC or editorial that is the bad guys here, but the decision makers at Warner who are now more hands on with DC now tha tthey are in Burbank and under the Warner Entertainment division purview rather than a separate entity. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 7:25:59 GMT -5
Of course, at the same time WB is pulling the plug on adult HB comics at DC, we get news of a Banana Splits revival movie at SyFy that is a horror film and portrays the Splits are kid killers... AV Clubsigh... -M |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 20, 2019 7:38:42 GMT -5
It was a WB decision, not a DC decision. Someone in the HB marketing department didn't like the books, raised a stink about it potentially harming their ability to license the properties for kid's products and someone with decision making ability listened. -M That's really too bad, Snagglepuss was seriously one of the best books DC has put out in a while. In ten years time when the Classic Comics Christmas theme is Favorite Funny Animal Books I'll gladly nominate it as number one and physically fight anyone who doesn't have it at least in their top five. I must admit this makes me feel like checking out if there’s a trade paperback of the series somewhere! Exit stage left! |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 20, 2019 8:36:38 GMT -5
That's really too bad, Snagglepuss was seriously one of the best books DC has put out in a while. In ten years time when the Classic Comics Christmas theme is Favorite Funny Animal Books I'll gladly nominate it as number one and physically fight anyone who doesn't have it at least in their top five. I must admit this makes me feel like checking out if there’s a trade paperback of the series somewhere! Exit stage left! It's a definite must read...but hopefully it's back up sasquatch cop doesn't get collected along with it...because blech! |
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Post by Dizzy D on Feb 20, 2019 9:25:04 GMT -5
I must admit this makes me feel like checking out if there’s a trade paperback of the series somewhere! Exit stage left! It's a definite must read...but hopefully it's back up sasquatch cop doesn't get collected along with it...because blech!
It didn't. (Or I have completely banned it from my mind.)
(both are equally likely these days).
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 20, 2019 11:27:25 GMT -5
I must admit this makes me feel like checking out if there’s a trade paperback of the series somewhere! Exit stage left! It's a definite must read...but hopefully it's back up sasquatch cop doesn't get collected along with it...because blech!  |
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