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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 1, 2019 11:06:32 GMT -5
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Post by brutalis on Apr 1, 2019 13:25:10 GMT -5
Don't think Liefeld is hurting in the money department. And why NOT give a property away to Marvel or DC if it might mean it living in perpetuity beyond your death? There is a certain kind of pride and prestige, if you will in being able to say you created a property for the Big 2. Sometimes that might open a doorway to other opportunities and getting the "higher ups" attention for you.
Besides, that picture doesn't sell me on the character other than to note Liefeld has simplified and toned his design sense way down from his earlier overactive character designs. That "helmet" though is UGGHHLY to me.
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Post by rberman on Apr 1, 2019 14:10:17 GMT -5
Is he wearing his left shoe on his right foot?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 14:11:43 GMT -5
Is he wearing his left shoe on his right foot? Hey just be impressed there's a foot on panel. -M
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Post by rberman on Apr 1, 2019 14:35:37 GMT -5
Is he wearing his left shoe on his right foot? Hey just be impressed there's a foot on panel. Baby steps...
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 1, 2019 15:26:10 GMT -5
The man from A.N.K.L.E.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Apr 2, 2019 7:36:29 GMT -5
At this point, and if you’re a big name, I’m sure Marvel and DC would cut the creator a lucrative deal given how starved they are for bankable new characters.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 8:26:14 GMT -5
Is he wearing his left shoe on his right foot? Unbelievable !!!
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 2, 2019 10:31:35 GMT -5
At this point, and if you’re a big name, I’m sure Marvel and DC would cut the creator a lucrative deal given how starved they are for bankable new characters. Starved is not the word I would use. They are making a billion dollars on every movie they release. They don't need any new characters.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 2, 2019 10:33:50 GMT -5
At this point, and if you’re a big name, I’m sure Marvel and DC would cut the creator a lucrative deal given how starved they are for bankable new characters. I hear this a lot, but it doesn't really seem true to me. Outside of the starting line ups formed when DC and Marvel first began if you look at them decade by decade you really only ever get one or two new characters who seem to actually catch on with readers and continue to stay on in the long term so current rates really aren't off the historical norm.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 2, 2019 13:26:31 GMT -5
At this point, and if you’re a big name, I’m sure Marvel and DC would cut the creator a lucrative deal given how starved they are for bankable new characters. I hear this a lot, but it doesn't really seem true to me. Outside of the starting line ups formed when DC and Marvel first began if you look at them decade by decade you really only ever get one or two new characters who seem to actually catch on with readers and continue to stay on in the long term so current rates really aren't off the historical norm. True. But if you buck those odds and come up with a Hellboy or Walking Dead or even Atomic Robo, why give it to someone else?
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Post by Nowhere Man on Apr 2, 2019 15:14:05 GMT -5
At this point, and if you’re a big name, I’m sure Marvel and DC would cut the creator a lucrative deal given how starved they are for bankable new characters. I hear this a lot, but it doesn't really seem true to me. Outside of the starting line ups formed when DC and Marvel first began if you look at them decade by decade you really only ever get one or two new characters who seem to actually catch on with readers and continue to stay on in the long term so current rates really aren't off the historical norm. I agree, but there is always a slight chance that a new character will hit big, so why not sweeten the pot for creators? I also agree that Marvel and DC don’t NEED much outside their top four or five most lucrative properties, but that doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t want diversity of options.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 2, 2019 16:24:43 GMT -5
I hear this a lot, but it doesn't really seem true to me. Outside of the starting line ups formed when DC and Marvel first began if you look at them decade by decade you really only ever get one or two new characters who seem to actually catch on with readers and continue to stay on in the long term so current rates really aren't off the historical norm. I agree, but there is always a slight chance that a new character will hit big, so why not sweeten the pot for creators? I also agree that Marvel and DC don’t NEED much outside their top four or five most lucrative properties, but that doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t want diversity of options. Oh, I don't have any qualms about sweetening the pot to encourage creators to give it a go I'm just saying that I see this sentiment that there's a dearth of new hot characters in modern comics a lot and it always baffles me because it's not like there were always tons in the past decades that really went the distance.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 2, 2019 16:32:19 GMT -5
I hear this a lot, but it doesn't really seem true to me. Outside of the starting line ups formed when DC and Marvel first began if you look at them decade by decade you really only ever get one or two new characters who seem to actually catch on with readers and continue to stay on in the long term so current rates really aren't off the historical norm. True. But if you buck those odds and come up with a Hellboy or Walking Dead or even Atomic Robo, why give it to someone else? Some personal choices trump the all mighty dollar. I'm not some hot shot writer or artist so maybe my sentiment would change if I actually had some skin in the game but standing right here, right now I'd gladly try my hand at creating a new hero in the hopes that if it caught on I might be thought of as reverently by future fans as I do now when I think of people like Jack Kirby, Joe Kubert, Gil Kane, Gardner Fox or Frank Miller.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 2, 2019 17:56:46 GMT -5
True. But if you buck those odds and come up with a Hellboy or Walking Dead or even Atomic Robo, why give it to someone else? Some personal choices trump the all mighty dollar. I'm not some hot shot writer or artist so maybe my sentiment would change if I actually had some skin in the game but standing right here, right now I'd gladly try my hand at creating a new hero in the hopes that if it caught on I might be thought of as reverently by future fans as I do now when I think of people like Jack Kirby, Joe Kubert, Gil Kane, Gardner Fox or Frank Miller. That's certainly a choice. But reverence doesn't put the kids through college or pay for health care when the corporate behemoth has moved on to the new shiny writer/artist. Yeah...that's probably cynical. But having seen plenty of great creators die penniless it maybe makes some sense to worry more about money.
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