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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 11:16:59 GMT -5
I liked this volume of the Legion. I thought Waid took the Legion in a different direction and Kitson's art is beautiful.
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Post by rberman on Apr 14, 2019 19:04:47 GMT -5
Legion of Super-Heroes #7 “Follow the Leader!” (August 2005)Creative Team: Mark Waid writing. Barry Kitson pencils. Art Thibert and James Pascoe ink. The Story: A mysterious message appears on Braniac 5’s computer: “Colu is Next.” He doesn’t know how it got there, but we do. He left it for himself last issue while interacting with Praetor Lemnos, though his knowledge about Lemnos himself has been erased. Sure enough, the citizens of Colu are falling victim to a computer virus that has leaves them drooling idiots. Clever use of Light Lass’ powers forces Lemnos to reveal himself, leading to a confrontation on Colu. Brainy promises to remember Lemnos this time. In Braniac 5’s absence, Cosmic Boy gets Phantom Girl to help him break into Brainy’s lab. My Two Cents: Again Waid mixes character moments with the big conspiracy plot. Chameleon annoys Light Lass by sampling her apple for future transformation reference data. Sun Boy castigates Triplicate Girl for spying on her teammates for Cosmic Boy. As he is with Dream Girl, Braniac 5 is grumpy toward Light Lass because of what he sees as her flippancy in the manipulation of fundamental forces of the cosmos. But really Brainy is just grumpy and rationalizes a different reason why for each person. He's very "rational" like that. Waid has a touch of inspiration in depicting Colu as a planet containing 16.3 trillion miniaturized citizens. Makes sense; the original Braniac was miniaturizing cities 1000 years prior. Do they follow Moore's Law, getting exponentially smaller?
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Post by rberman on Apr 15, 2019 8:00:02 GMT -5
Legion of Super-Heroes #8 “Family Feud!” (September 2005)Creative Team: Mark Waid writing. Kevin Sharpe pencils. Prentiss Rollins inks. The Story: Cosmic Boy and Braniac 5 have a tense, terse confrontation following the lab break-in from last issue. Cosmic Boy wants the Legion to have “more communication.” Braniac 5 uses this as a pretext to turn the microphone transmitter on Cosmic Boy’s Legion flight ring permanently on, so that the whole team can overhear him complaining about them to Sun Boy. This leads to a massive intra-Legion brawl between Cosmic Boy’s faction and Braniac 5’s faction. The fight is truncated when Cosmic Boy gets news that his home planet of Braal is closing its borders; he must decide whether to return there immediately or be exiled for the foreseeable future. Lightning Lad is unable to convince the Science Police that Praetor Lemnos exists, due to Lemnos’ information-manipulation ability. My Two Cents: The Cosmic Boy/Braniac 5 rivalry comes to a head. This Legion really does act like a bunch of teen-agers, full of petty squabbles and intrigues. The conflict feels earned, having built over the last eight issues, but it must be said that neither side seems deserving of victory. Both “leaders” are full of themselves and complain constantly. In a four page prelude, Colossal Boy and Element Lad take down some human traffickers. The “Aaaaieeee!” cry is an homage to the Levitz/Giffen era of LSH, in which this was the most common way to depict someone screaming, which seemed to happen a lot. Light Lass checks in on the mourning Projectra, who is wearing a veil, perhaps in tribute to the time that she was rebranded as “Sensor” with a full-face mask. There’s also a hint that the destruction of Orando will prove to somehow be the origin of Projectra’s illusion powers. Up until now, as far as the Legion knows at least, her only super-power is being very rich. We really haven't seen any economic fallout from the loss of Orando, but then again we have no real understanding of how the economy of the 31st century works. Waid probably doesn't know either.
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Post by dbutler69 on Apr 15, 2019 13:54:16 GMT -5
The Legion is really becoming pretty unsympathetic to me about now. I find it tough to root for them, to root for almost anybody on the team.
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Post by rberman on Apr 15, 2019 14:22:19 GMT -5
The Legion is really becoming pretty unsympathetic to me about now. I find it tough to root for them, to root for almost anybody on the team. These last few issues have been mostly about the infighting, I agree.
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Post by String on Apr 15, 2019 17:27:46 GMT -5
The Legion is really becoming pretty unsympathetic to me about now. I find it tough to root for them, to root for almost anybody on the team. These last few issues have been mostly about the infighting, I agree. Do you think Waid's characterization here is more in line with teenagers though? The infighting, the forming of cliques within the team, romantic tension, do you like me?? this here seems more representative of being a teenager, your fears and concerns. Granted, I've read a small sampling of Silver Age LSH but those characters acted far from what I would consider to be teenagers and during the height of Levitz/Giffen, I think it was rather easy to forget or overlook the fact that they are supposed to teenagers (or shortly into their early 20s). Their squabbling and concerns here as depicted by Waid seems more modern to me. Whether that makes them more sympathetic or less is, of course, dependent on your POV.
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Post by rberman on Apr 16, 2019 7:18:06 GMT -5
Legion of Super-Heroes #9 (October 2005)Creative Team: Mark Waid writing, with plot assist from Barry Kitson. Georges Jeanty pencils. Art Thibert inks. The Story: The bickering from last issue continues, albeit without fisticuffs. The power struggle between Cosmic Boy and Braniac 5 has caused the kids in the Legion HQ plaza to take sides as well. A major battle against Terror Firma breaks out on the planet Helegyn, a Dune-like desert world full of derricks harvesting liquid Inertron from deep underground. Cosmic Boy is headed home to Braal permanently, but Invisible Kid reprograms the teleport gate to take him to Helegyn instead, so that he can assist his team. Lettercol: It’s Star Boy and Light Lass’ turn to deal with some heavy (Hyuk, hyuk) continuity issues raised by readers. My Two Cents: Not a whole lot happens this issue; the big fight is summarized in just one splash page, but it still makes an entertaining read as the heroes try to make up after punching each other silly last time. This is the first time we’ve seen any hint of a dark side to the cult of personality that’s developed around the Legion. You would expect a bunch of dumb teenagers lounging around for weeks in the plaza to get into trouble. What do they do all day? Just stare at the Legion’s rocket-shaped tower?
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Post by rberman on Apr 17, 2019 6:02:12 GMT -5
Legion of Super-Heroes #10 “Traitor!” (November 2005)Creative Team: Mark Waid writing, Barry Kitson pencils, Drew Geraci inks. The Story: The battle squad returns from Helegyn with Terra Firma’s chief strategist Elysion captive. Dream Girl is disturbed that her precognition doesn’t go more than an hour into the future. What is blocking her? In the face of Terra Firma’s threat, Cosmic Boy and Braniac 5 agree to bury the hatchet and work together. They give a joint pep talk to all the Legion fans waiting in the plaza outside their HQ. Then Cosmic Boy divides the Legion into three task forces to protect three critical planets. Invisible Kid stays home to guard Elysion, who has a surprise of his own. Several Terra Firma suicide bombers attack the crowded Legion plaza, and one somehow gets into the prison area of Legion HQ, detonating a bomb that frees Elysion while demolishing the HQ. Dream Girl is crushed by the falling debris. My Two Cents: It’s a chillingly effective issue tied together with Dream Girl’s foreboding about her limited precognition. One would expect she knows the implications of this; surely her people know the phenomenon well. But for the first time reader, it’s quite a shocker. The Invisible Kid focus on the cover of this issue is pretty cool, but it doesn’t really reflect the major story within. I mentioned earlier that this series doesn’t use the Interlac alphabet, but a couple of random teens in the plaza do. One is a girl whom Invisible Kid mistakes for Dream Girl. She says, “who?” when he calls her “Dreamy.” And some random alien shouts, “HOLY seven HELLs. THIS IS THE END.” Shrinking Violet gets mentioned finally, though she’s known as Atom Girl now, and there’s some question of whether she exists at all, like The Rumor in Alan Moore’s series Top 10.
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Post by rberman on Apr 18, 2019 15:12:31 GMT -5
Legion of Super-Heroes #11 “” (December 2005)Creative Team: Mark Waid writing, Barry Kitson pencils, Mick Gray inks. The backup story is by Waid, Dale Eaglesham, and Art Thibert. The Story: Braniac 5 preserves Dream Girl in his force field and vows to find a way to resurrect her. Invisible Kid rallies the teens in Legion Plaza to face earthmoving villain Elysion. The rest of the Legion are scattered on their missions, unaware what has transpired back at their UQ. Team One (Star Boy, Colossal Boy, Light Lass, Element Lad, Cosmic Boy) are on Dormir, the communications hub planet which controls the Public Service that keeps tabs on all the teens in the galaxy. Its inhabitants are made of pure information and look like silhouettes of the sky. The elder information-beings are grumpy, but maybe the younger ones will be sympathetic to the Legion. Team Two (Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl, Chameleon, Sun Boy, Shadow Lass) are in the Fifth Dimension on Ttrxl. A dimensional cop, looking rather like a Monitor, accosts them. Team Three (Ultra Boy, Karate Kid, Phantom Girl, Triplicate Girl, Projectra) enter the Terra Firma base and find it filled with troops waiting for their warp portals to open so they can invade a hundred worlds… Backup Story: As Legion-affiliated teens clean up the rubble in the Plaza, they unwittingly recreate scenes from the Legion’s large collection of 20th century comic books. They are forced to prioritize saving the lives of the wounded over saving the relics of the past. Message: comics are not as important as real people. My Two Cents: Waid is starting to pay off the Braniac 5/Dream Girl romance he’s been teasing. Too bad she’s dead! Will this become an Anakin Skywalker-like story in which a character goes mad attempting to turn back death to save his loved ones? Remember, this was the plot of Green Lantern just a few years earlier. That same motive also powers Kingpin in the recent “Into the Spiderverse” film. I guess it goes back to Frankenstein really.
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Post by rberman on Apr 19, 2019 5:57:14 GMT -5
Legion of Super-Heroes #12 “vs Terra Firma!” (January 2006)Creative Team: Mark Waid writing. Barry Kitson and Ken Lashey pencils. Drew Geraci and Mick Gray inks. The backup story is written by Stuart Moore, drawn by Ken Lashey, and inked by Greg Parkin. The Story: The fall of Legion HQ leaves the away teams without communication or teleport ability. Cosmic Boy prevails upon Dormir’s information-based beings to act as a commlink to the other two teams. Then he communicates with teens across the galaxy, urging them to rise up against the armies of Lemnos which have begun streaming through the warp gates. Cosmic Boy instructs the team on Ttrxl to shut down the power to Lemnos’ warp portals. First, they have to get past the enforcer. Chameleon surrounds Lightning Lad to make him look like Saturn Girl, drawing the enforcer close enough to get a big shock in more ways than one. On Earth, a replica of Robin the Boy Wonder’s sling proves useful for Branic Five. He uses it to lob a fragile rock at Elysion, who mockingly inhales the dust. But the dust turns out to have contained Atom Girl, who returns to normal size, erupting out of Elysion’s chest cavity. That’s going to leave a mark. To prevent more troops from passing through the warp gates, Ultra Boy and Karate Kid take on Lemnos’ army while Triplicate Girl, Princess Projectra (now revealing her illusion power), and Phantom Girl rescue Timber Wolf from Lemnos’ dungeon. I love Phantom Girl’s nonchalant confidence here. Backup story “A Decent Interval”: In a tale concurrent with issue #1, Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl flirt during a successful mission to recruit a planet full of fast-aging teenagers to their cause. Apparently their romance is still in its early stages in this iteration of the Legion. Covers That Lie: The Legion does not fight the super-villains of Terra Firma, though Ultra Boy and Karate Kid do wade into a pile of regular goons in Lemnos’ army. My Two Cents: Modern decompression means that a story split among four different locales doesn’t get a ton of forward movement on any one of them, but the essence of the story is clear enough as the Legion recovers from Elysion’s strike while striking back effectively at Lemnos. The idea of antagonistic United Planet adults has taken a back-burner to this invasion, but it’s not clear where Lemnos gets his resources and army. His home base is apparently a planet all its own. Finally we meet Atom Girl, much more interesting than the Shrinking Violet of the Silver or Bronze Age. She’s a natural assassin with fright wig hair and a Black Widow attitude.
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Post by dbutler69 on Apr 19, 2019 8:51:31 GMT -5
Some clever things here like the concepts behind some of these worlds dreamed up by Waid, and Chameleon surrounding Lightning Lad to make him look like Saturn Girl. The Atom Girl slingshot was a nice little twist. So far my favorite character is Shadow Lass. She's so snarky. Phantom Girl is pretty cool, too, and Projectra is interesting. Terra Firma was supposed to be this big threat, but other than Elysion, the others were woefully underdeveloped. I don't think I could tell you anything about the others. I also still think the generation gap war is getting overplayed, but there's some cool stuff here, too. This isn't so much a reflection of Waid's Legion as it is of modern comics, but this story was slow to develop and to finish. Old school stories are sometimes rushed, and I appreciate the increased characterization that is allowed with these newer decompressed stories, but I think there must be a happy medium between the old school (where this story would have been done in about 3 issues) and the modern stuff, where this dragged on for 12 issues. EDIT: Oh, and Chameleon is another character I'm enjoying.
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Post by brutalis on Apr 19, 2019 8:57:28 GMT -5
Yes this was dragging its feet. By this point the interesting parts were becoming fewer and farther apart and I will admit I was already done with the story long before it wrapped up. What kept me coming back was my LOSH love and seeing the character changes and world building Waid was attempting. Sadly those parts felt somewhat disconnected from the major story and were much more interesting. I strongly agree with dbutler69 that if this had been shorter in a 4-6 (at most) issues it might have played out stronger.
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Post by dbutler69 on Apr 19, 2019 9:12:33 GMT -5
I agree, brutalis. My LOSH love has seen me through thick and thin on some Legion iterations. There is some good character work here, but it needs to be more tightly integrated into the main plot. As I've jumped ahead to the Supergirl issues, unfortunately I think the disjointedness and slow pacing continues.
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Post by rberman on Apr 19, 2019 9:29:12 GMT -5
Terra Firma was supposed to be this big threat, but other than Elysion, the others were woefully underdeveloped. I don't think I could tell you anything about the others. I also still think the generation gap war is getting overplayed, but there's some cool stuff here, too. I've read this a few times over the years, and I couldn't tell you anything about Terra Firma either, except for Elysion and Lemnos. We need some scenes where they're hanging out together discussing their plans and such so that they can have names and personalities outside of the fighting, just like the Legion. But it's also possible Waid left them ciphers on purpose in view of what happens a few issues from now. Still, whether it was a master plan or not, it still weakens the current drama when we don't understand the villains' motives, personalities, names, or powers.
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Post by rberman on Apr 20, 2019 7:30:53 GMT -5
Legion of Super-Heroes #13 (February 2006)Creative Team: Mark Waid writing. Barry Kitson layouts. Mick Gray finishes. Backup story written by Stuart Moore, pencils by Ken Lashey, inks by Paul Neary. The Story: The teams from Ttrxl and Dormir take warp portals to Lemnos’ world just before Lightning Lad deactivates the portals, preventing Lemnos’ army from escaping. The Legion does well against Lemnos’ grunt troops and clashes inconclusively with their opposites in Terra Firma. Then three things happen very quickly. First, Terra Firma get an epiphany that Lemnos is not the guy they should be working for. Then Braniac 5 opens a warp portal from Earth, yanks Lemnos through, and closes the portal. When he returns a moment later, he won’t say what’s happened to Lemnos. We later see that Brainy has Lemnos in cryosleep as part of some plan to resurrect Dream Girl. Then Sun Boy abruptly resigns the Legion, declaring his intent to guide Terra Firma back to the light. Backup Story “The Hours”: Episodes from Dream Girl’s last three hours, going backward in time from the moment of her death through several different conversations. Lettercol: Resident melee experts Karate Kid and Shadow Lass answer your burning questions about fitting the new Legion into DC Continuity. My Two Cents: Yep, Braniac is definitely heading into Dr. Frankenstein territory. Terra Firma’s reversal of allegiance is a bit surprising; didn’t they know they were working for the guy who exploded the whole planet of Orando, reduced trillions of Coluans to gibbering idiots, and generally threw the whole United Planets into chaos? But they balk when he asks them to pull the trigger on temporarily incapacitated Sun Boy, who seems overly confident that he can redeem them. We’ll see…
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