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Post by brutalis on Apr 29, 2019 8:44:42 GMT -5
The JSA and/or any hero/villain/team has a place in comic books at anytime. The problem is finding the "hook" or "connection" for making them relevant and interesting for current consumers. All about finding the right writer, the right artist and right concept to hitting it out of the ballpark.
The MU movie universe is an example. Rather than "adapt" comic book stories of yesterday they have done the best thing possible: cherry pick ideas and placing them in current/real time for the best experience for movie viewers. Knowing your customer base and serving it!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 9:39:22 GMT -5
""Society" does sound quaint. I do not mean that in a pejorative way, but it's not a word I come across, in any context, these days. Decades ago, someone may have formed, say, a stamp-collecting society or whatever, but "group" seems to be the word now. There are no doubt societies of all kinds, I just don't come across the word a lot." National Honor Society Straight Edge Society National Multiple Sclerosis Society California Historical Society American Cancer Society The World Science Fiction Society World Future Society If you look at my post again... There are no doubt societies of all kinds... I didn't need a list, thank you. Was well aware they existed, just don't come across the word as often.
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Post by chadwilliam on Apr 29, 2019 15:52:39 GMT -5
As someone who doesn't follow new stuff perhaps you should take this with a grain of salt, but I suspect that there are a lot of characters being published today whose place in the 21st century is questionable. Superman, for instance, seems to be in a regular state of revision as if DC's been struggling to make him fit some sort of niche over the past decade or more and he's the company's flagship character. Wasn't Wonder Woman's continued existence on the shelves more a product of the Marston Estate stipulating that for DC to retain ownership of the character, there had to be a Wonder Woman title out every month? I know that this rule no longer exists and with the recent movie being a hit I don't think it even would matter if it were still in play, but it makes one wonder if Wonder Woman was published out of demand or habit for the longest time. Batman? Well, Batman's Batman. I can't envision a time when the character won't have a place as long as comics are around. And those are the big three at DC. Has there been any Superman story that screams "Yes! This is why we need a Superman in the modern world!" or Wonder Woman or Flash or Green Arrow or...?
I'd hate to see what DC would do to the JSA in 2019, but "Good guys fighting Nazis during World War II" has got to have a market. Zoot suits, fedoras, 1940's automobiles all have a style that would fall beautifully upon the printed page and if The Spectre, Starman, and Sandman: Mystery Theatre can be published to critical acclaim (yes, this was during the 90's, but if Golden Age characters could succeed during that period...) why not throw The Flash and Green Lantern into the mix for a little bit more mainstream appeal?
And if you want to set the series in the present day, have Batman join the team. There - relevant again.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 29, 2019 16:06:50 GMT -5
I have traditionally been a big fan of the JSA. But I also feel they are intrinsically linked to World War II and divorced from that connection, I'm not sure I see the point. At this point the youngest JSAer would be in their mid-90s. And yes I get that with superhero physics and magic you can find a way to make them vital, but I'm not sure I want to suspend my disbelief that much. I guess you can do a legacy book...and maybe if it was well done I'd be interested. But likely not. So unless they're tied to World War II (and in the climate for superhero funnybooks that seems unlikely) then I don't see them having much of a place.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 29, 2019 16:09:06 GMT -5
As someone who doesn't follow new stuff perhaps you should take this with a grain of salt, but I suspect that there are a lot of characters being published today whose place in the 21st century is questionable. Superman, for instance, seems to be in a regular state of revision ] Superman's always in a constant state of revision, though. Long-term successful characters are those that can be revised, successfully, time after time.
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Post by profh0011 on Apr 29, 2019 16:18:35 GMT -5
This was done with the Batman tv series, for years.
I FINALLY got mine about a month ago! Have been watching 2 episodes each week... timing them back-to-back with the SAME episodes of LOST IN SPACE that were on the same weeks back when they were first-run. So it's like I'm reliving being 6 years old again!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 16:37:16 GMT -5
I have traditionally been a big fan of the JSA. But I also feel they are intrinsically linked to World War II and divorced from that connection, I'm not sure I see the point. At this point the youngest JSAer would be in their mid-90s. And yes I get that with superhero physics and magic you can find a way to make them vital, but I'm not sure I want to suspend my disbelief that much. I couldn't have put that better, myself. Suspension of disbelief is fine. Batman's birthdate can be vague. Ditto Spider-Man. But when you tie something into a particular conflict, that's problematic.
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