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Post by dbutler69 on May 9, 2019 15:22:36 GMT -5
This character's name is actually New Wave, so obviously an 80's inspired character.
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Post by MDG on May 9, 2019 15:39:16 GMT -5
Oh, the 70s hit some characters upside the head with the polyester stick: Have you ever seen photos of the DC offices or Marvel Bullpen in the 70s? Everyone was either sideburns and polyester suits or bushy beards and T-shirts.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 9, 2019 17:34:45 GMT -5
Gonna argue the point; yes, it is Chaykin's style; but, it was also a fashion trend of the 80s and 80s comics. Fashion seems to run in 20 year cycles and, in the 80s, some 60s styles (such as narrow ties) returned; but, also stuff from 20 years before that, from the 40s. Double-breasted suits and shoulder pads for women were common elements of both the 40s and 80s. Chaykin has a love for that 40s and early 50s look, with the double-breasted suits, fedoras, and such, as well as shoulder pads on the women.
Meanwhile, the 80s saw a plethora of lingerie fashion, as film, television and MTV helped add that fetish to a new and wider audience, with a plethora of models and actresses in garter belts and black stocking, plus all manner of lingerie styles (corsets, teddies, bra & panty sets, etc). The pump came back in style and heels became a major dress elemnt, with clubwear trending towards the stiletto heel. There was also a trend in short boots for women, with the fringed suede and leather, as well as low cut stiletto heeled boots and high-heeled knee-length boots. Leather boots were also a male fashion item, from cowboy boots to styles closer to riding boots, as seen by numerous 80s bands. The club look for guys was a mix of 40s and 60s style suits and blue jeans, leather boots and leather jackets (bombers, motorcycle and members Only jackets)
American Flagg shows that off, in Chaykin's style, and it was carried forward by those who copied him. However, you saw the same stuff in other comics. Some, like The Rocketeer were period pieces; others just had those same fashions in the present. Fetishwear became more open in the 80s, both due to the influence of the Rocky Horror Picture Show and music videos. Madonna had girls wearing bustiers as outerwear and we see that in many 80s comics.
So, my rebuttal is that, though American Flagg reflected Chaykin's aesthetic and tastes, it also reflected the era in which it was published. Fashions changed in society and comics, while Chaykin continued on with that aesthetic. Therefore, it is just as indicative of the time as an issue of Superman, from John Byrne, with Lois in a pencil mini-skirt, stilettos and jacket with shoulder pads.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 19:55:34 GMT -5
She-Hulk's Fashions in the 80's Quite Fashionable ... and she became a favorite of mine at that point of time. My favorite outfit ... All in the 80's
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Post by EdoBosnar on May 10, 2019 3:12:02 GMT -5
Oh, yeah, nothing screams "first half of the 1980s" like leg-warmers; you can even see them here in this costume deliberately designed to look hideous:
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Post by beccabear67 on May 10, 2019 12:57:05 GMT -5
Hair gel and shoulder pads... no thanks.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 18:32:48 GMT -5
EdoBosnar ... Back where I'm from many girls wore leg warmers to keep warm and to some degree they found them fashionable and all that. Many of them including my own girlfriend finds them a bit trashy and out of place but they still continues to wear them into most of the 80's until finally died on its own. I shared those photos because it was simply a fad and nothing else.
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Post by brutalis on May 14, 2019 7:47:06 GMT -5
Another "fad" which arrived in the 90's within the comic pages: Teams wearing Leather Bomber Jackets and damn near every hero around endlessly wore pockets/pouches and belt straps! X-Men, Avengers, FF. What a sad day when Black Knight and Hercules are running around in leather jackets?
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Post by rberman on May 14, 2019 8:03:03 GMT -5
However, I have a soft spot for super-poncho Laurel Kent I remember thinking, "She'd better never bring her arm to her side, or that's gonna dip kinda low."
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Post by brutalis on May 14, 2019 10:25:53 GMT -5
However, I have a soft spot for super-poncho Laurel Kent I remember thinking, "She'd better never bring her arm to her side, or that's gonna dip kinda low." Her 70's black swimsuit err...I mean costume was rather dangerously sexy as well. Being invulnerable was an advantage for her, but what about the costume? Either strap torn or ripped and instant nudity!!!
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Post by dbutler69 on May 15, 2019 8:56:18 GMT -5
Oh, yeah, nothing screams "first half of the 1980s" like leg-warmers; you can even see them here in this costume deliberately designed to look hideous:
I love that Kitty Pride outfit! It's beautifully ugly, and encapsulates the youthful enthusiasm and exuberance that I used to love her for.
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Post by MDG on May 15, 2019 11:27:38 GMT -5
I remember thinking, "She'd better never bring her arm to her side, or that's gonna dip kinda low." Her 70's black swimsuit err...I mean costume was rather dangerously sexy as well. Being invulnerable was an advantage for her, but what about the costume? Either strap torn or ripped and instant nudity!!! Here's what Giffen put her in when I got a sketch from him:
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Post by rberman on May 22, 2019 17:05:29 GMT -5
Here we go, courtesy of codystarbuck:
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Post by codystarbuck on May 23, 2019 18:17:33 GMT -5
Grant Morrison and Steve Yeowell's Zenith epitomized it...
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Post by codystarbuck on May 23, 2019 18:20:42 GMT -5
As did John byrne's Lois Lane...
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